Simulated Fish Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 http://kansascity.craigslist.org/for/5395668139.html Can't believe people really keep tanks like this Such a sad sight to see - Wish I had a larger tank so I could take them. Link to comment
Droy008 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 hey that's a good deal on some extremely stressed fish! Link to comment
masterbuilder Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I would say thats what the majority for sw tanks are like. Link to comment
tetraodon Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 i find this mainly due to many shops that almost never say no, if a shop keeps large tank fish, like that tang and angel in small tanks long term, i dont trust them. people buy expecting things to "grow to the size of their enclosure", or trust information from a guy whose idea of salt water is when you add table salt to boil pasta. then when the misinformed person gets real information from a place like this, they get pissed at us for demanding the correct care, then turn around and break every single basic rule there is. but hey if they live for a couple months our info must be completely wrong, not like any of us have real experience. i wish good reef shops would spend time looking through craigslist and get these tanks away from people. Link to comment
SunWyrm Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 You'd be surprised how many people think they are only supposed to live for a few months/years! "Oh well I guess it died of old age!" Coworkers constantly asking how old my damsel is, and when I say over 5 years they act like she's some miracle fish. There's just so much misinformation on fish size/lifespan. Link to comment
masssnapz Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 That's actually a really good deal, supposing you had the setup to handle those fish. The live rock alone is more than 40. Link to comment
Nixperience Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Another good one is people that think the fish will only grow to the size of the tank it's in. I think this hobby is only meant for people that have some OCD tendencies. It's not the type of thing that you set and forget. Link to comment
jestep Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Another good one is people that think the fish will only grow to the size of the tank it's in. I think this hobby is only meant for people that have some OCD tendencies. It's not the type of thing that you set and forget. IMO this is probably the worst aquarium myth in existence, I've even seen it circulate here a few times. It's pretty simple, the fish stopped growing because the water could be considered sewage. Keep adding, o defeater of the bioload... Link to comment
Hammerstone Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 You'd be surprised how many people think they are only supposed to live for a few months/years! "Oh well I guess it died of old age!" Coworkers constantly asking how old my damsel is, and when I say over 5 years they act like she's some miracle fish. There's just so much misinformation on fish size/lifespan. yeah I was surprised to learn that clowns can live well into their twenties!!' Link to comment
lobster876 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I have a big tank but cannot get those guys as im too far away Link to comment
gulfsurfer101 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Get them and ship them too me! I'll set them free into the ocean breh! Link to comment
Simulated Fish Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share Posted February 11, 2016 i find this mainly due to many shops that almost never say no, if a shop keeps large tank fish, like that tang and angel in small tanks long term, i dont trust them. people buy expecting things to "grow to the size of their enclosure", or trust information from a guy whose idea of salt water is when you add table salt to boil pasta. then when the misinformed person gets real information from a place like this, they get pissed at us for demanding the correct care, then turn around and break every single basic rule there is. but hey if they live for a couple months our info must be completely wrong, not like any of us have real experience. i wish good reef shops would spend time looking through craigslist and get these tanks away from people. Your not wrong. There is a shop, the closest to me in fact, that I refuse to go into anymore. They are a dog sale/sitting + Reef + fish store. They're frag tanks look pretty bad and have all kinds of crap you don't want to hitch a ride on your coral. There is one employee who knows and cares for the tanks and is clearly frustrated the owner and other staff don't listen to him. I have heard the other employees sell tangs and eels to people buying their tiny bicubes that same day! Blows my mind. Link to comment
ajmckay Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 IMO this is probably the worst aquarium myth in existence, I've even seen it circulate here a few times. It's pretty simple, the fish stopped growing because the water could be considered sewage. Keep adding, o defeater of the bioload... When I was in like 4th grade getting my first tank I was actually told this by the store employee... In a way it's true - fish grown in captivity rarely, if ever, grow to sizes encountered in the wild. I think there are a number of factors at play but I think that generally it's driven more by stress and water chemistry than tank size. I'm thinking more about the micro nutrients that we don't really test for or make too much of an effort to replenish. Providing a larger tank for larger fish is important still though as a larger tank will have a larger supply of micro nutrients and it causes less stress as it helps provide more swimming space for the fish that need it. In the wild the phenomenon does occur, mostly in FW species that live in small ponds and such. But out on a reef it's a completely different story obviously. While we certainly can't reproduce a reef environment 100% it's in our best interest to try our best to maximize the health and encourage the natural behaviors of our fish. You're not going to be very happy after spending several hundred to a few thousand dollars to set up a proper aquarium only to have a mediocre reef with unhealthy fish. Thus why so many of these small overstocked tanks fail. If you don't like your reef and you can't figure out how to make it better (by only following suggestions that are easy and don't cost anything) then it's either going to crash at some point or be sold. Get them and ship them too me! I'll set them free into the ocean breh! Hopefully you know better than to do this... Link to comment
gulfsurfer101 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 When I was in like 4th grade getting my first tank I was actually told this by the store employee... In a way it's true - fish grown in captivity rarely, if ever, grow to sizes encountered in the wild. I think there are a number of factors at play but I think that generally it's driven more by stress and water chemistry than tank size. I'm thinking more about the micro nutrients that we don't really test for or make too much of an effort to replenish. Providing a larger tank for larger fish is important still though as a larger tank will have a larger supply of micro nutrients and it causes less stress as it helps provide more swimming space for the fish that need it. In the wild the phenomenon does occur, mostly in FW species that live in small ponds and such. But out on a reef it's a completely different story obviously. While we certainly can't reproduce a reef environment 100% it's in our best interest to try our best to maximize the health and encourage the natural behaviors of our fish. You're not going to be very happy after spending several hundred to a few thousand dollars to set up a proper aquarium only to have a mediocre reef with unhealthy fish. Thus why so many of these small overstocked tanks fail. If you don't like your reef and you can't figure out how to make it better (by only following suggestions that are easy and don't cost anything) then it's either going to crash at some point or be sold. Hopefully you know better than to do this... Nonsense! All oceans lead to the ocean! In most actuality most people that do this don't realize that most of these captive released fish only make for an easy meal for local wildlife. I once witnessed a guy dump his ciclids into a duck pond. They were turtle and duck food in seconds. I asked him wtf he was doing and he said he was going w they would multiply and he could net them out the pond in a few months to sell them. I called him a dumbass as I laughed all the way back to my bench my kids were feeding ducks from. Link to comment
SunWyrm Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 My mom dumped my cichlids in her local stream when I left them in her care. I take comfort in that maybe something enjoyed a nice, colorful meal...I would venture a guess that diet and exercise also have a big part to play in some of the smaller tanks. Tank can't handle the bioload, so you feed less, probably not very good quality food; plus they have no real room to get up to speed and play and probably develop lots of health problems because of all that."You have Nemo! Do you have Dori too?" -my coworker, not 30 minutes ago. Link to comment
ajmckay Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Nonsense! All oceans lead to the ocean! In most actuality most people that do this don't realize that most of these captive released fish only make for an easy meal for local wildlife. I once witnessed a guy dump his ciclids into a duck pond. They were turtle and duck food in seconds. I asked him wtf he was doing and he said he was going w they would multiply and he could net them out the pond in a few months to sell them. I called him a dumbass as I laughed all the way back to my bench my kids were feeding ducks from. Irresponsible Ever heard of an invasive species? Doesn't even have to be a fish - could be algae, could be a parasite, etc... Link to comment
gulfsurfer101 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Yes I know all to well! We had to have a good stream near us basically nuked because of some invase algae that grows on the surface. It had to be contained before it made its way into the lake the city gets their drinking water from. Ruined a prefect spot. Also we are having a problem with lionfish destroying the local habitation by consuming gamefish faster than they can spawn. I wonder where they came from! Link to comment
pgrVII Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 We've had this problem too with pacu and piranhas in a local lake. Those same people complain the fishing sucks in the lake. Sad. Link to comment
gulfsurfer101 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Pacu is good eating imo so I hear lol! Link to comment
fishfreak0114 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 My friend once told me how when her mom took down the FW tank at her house the fish were flushed down the toilet...alive. I almost started crying. Being that it leads to the sewage treatment plant, that's just as bad to me as throwing a cute fluffy bunny in a garbage can full of rodent poison. SO NOT COOL. People are so irresponsible with fish. Would you go out and buy a dog without reading its care requirements first...I highly doubt it. That tank at the top makes me sad, poor fishies Link to comment
Air_Cooled_Nut Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 ... Can't believe people really keep tanks like this Such a sad sight to see - Wish I had a larger tank so I could take them. Geez, total newb here (me) so I have to ask: What exactly is wrong with it? Link to comment
jamescstein Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Both the BiColor Angel and Hippo tang get 6"+ no business being in a BC29. Link to comment
WhiteWulfe Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Geez, total newb here (me) so I have to ask: What exactly is wrong with it? Tank is way too small for the environment those fish require. That blue tang?, for example, is usually recommended to be in a tank 180 gallons or so at the smallest, with a preference of at least six feet of width so they can move around (they swim... a lot). Link to comment
Air_Cooled_Nut Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Oh, wow! Thanks! Link to comment
ScubaSteveZ Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Why wouldn't he/she just sell or trade them to their LFS? Link to comment
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