isaacharry Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 i don't know what this is but its all over my media and bio balls param temp 78 calcium 420 alk 8.3 mag 1300 phosphate 0 ammonia 0 nitrite 0 nitrate 0 has anyone had this? its thick and slimy Link to comment
isaacharry Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 Here is a photo hope it helps Picture? Just added one Link to comment
Simulated Fish Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Dinoflagellates for sure. i don't know what this is but its all over my media and bio balls param temp 78 calcium 420 alk 8.3 mag 1300 phosphate 0 ammonia 0 nitrite 0 nitrate 0 has anyone had this? its thick and slimy Link to comment
isaacharry Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 Dinoflagellates for sure. how do i kill them off? none of my inverts or fish died and i had this for two months Link to comment
Simulated Fish Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 up Lol deep breath Isaac! Dino's are just about the worst to have. The only reliable way I've seen to get rid of them is: A: bumping up Ph really high and killing the microorganisms. B:Manuel removal and hydrogen peroxide treatments. C: A complete take down and deep cleaning. All three will be time consuming and can really hurt your livestock if done wrong. The only for sure way to rid them is option C. I haven't felt with this myself though so maybe someone else can weigh in. Whatever you do toss the bioballs in the trash... They are just a place to collect crap from the tank and feed Algae issues. Link to comment
isaacharry Posted February 10, 2016 Author Share Posted February 10, 2016 Lol deep breath Isaac! Dino's are just about the worst to have. The only reliable way I've seen to get rid of them is: A: bumping up Ph really high and killing the microorganisms. B:Manuel removal and hydrogen peroxide treatments. C: A complete take down and deep cleaning. All three will be time consuming and can really hurt your livestock if done wrong. The only for sure way to rid them is option C. I haven't felt with this myself though so maybe someone else can weigh in. Whatever you do toss the bioballs in the trash... They are just a place to collect crap from the tank and feed Algae issues. do think if i empty all saltwater and replace it with freshwater for a few days it will kill off everything? Link to comment
Tamberav Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 do think if i empty all saltwater and replace it with freshwater for a few days it will kill off everything? If you have corals or fish, you won't 100% get rid of it. I would do blackouts and deep cleaning. Link to comment
Simulated Fish Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 If you have corals or fish, you won't 100% get rid of it. This. Dino's are damn near everywhere and on everything in your tank by the time you start to see their colonies. This is why you see people breakdown a tank after trying to defeat Dino's. Link to comment
isaacharry Posted February 10, 2016 Author Share Posted February 10, 2016 If you have corals or fish, you won't 100% get rid of it. I would do blackouts and deep cleaning. This. Dino's are damn near everywhere and on everything in your tank by the time you start to see their colonies. This is why you see people breakdown a tank after trying to defeat Dino's. See this is where i am in luck, no corals. no lights, my ATI is only coming in 5 weeks so would a month long blackout do any good Link to comment
Tamberav Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 See this is where i am in luck, no corals. no lights, my ATI is only coming in 5 weeks so would a month long blackout do any good Cover the tank with blankets/towels to make it pitch black. If you have fish I would start with 1 week blackout. Run filter floss or a sock or w/e your tank uses and change is frequently. You could fill it up with freshwater but it would kill the live rock, so you would need to start the cycle over afterwards. Up to you how aggressive you want to be. Link to comment
ndrobey Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Cover the sides of the tank with aluminum foil, or double thickness of black trash bags. Leave no space where light can get through. If there is a fish in there, it will need some air for oxygen, so don't cover the top of the tank too tightly. Without fish, go the whole four weeks with no light. With fish, a week at a time. Filter material will need to be changed often. Link to comment
ajmckay Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Hehe while I agree it's most likely dinoflagellates, how did you manage to not get any of it in focus with your pic? Only some mesh in the background is in focus. Anyways, do you also have a picture of the tank? Is it on your rocks as well? In addition to a thorough scrub down another way to at least help prevent them from coming back is to use an appropriately sized UV sterilizer which can kill the dinospores. Some dinos are toxic so it's also a good idea to run a bunch of carbon. Not sure what that bag is but if it's carbon it obviously needs to be changed out for a new bag. Read these at the very least and then get to work! http://www.advancedaquarist.com/blog/how-i-beat-dinoflagellates-and-the-lessons-i-learned http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-11/rhf/index.php Link to comment
isaacharry Posted February 10, 2016 Author Share Posted February 10, 2016 Cover the sides of the tank with aluminum foil, or double thickness of black trash bags. Leave no space where light can get through. If there is a fish in there, it will need some air for oxygen, so don't cover the top of the tank too tightly. Without fish, go the whole four weeks with no light. With fish, a week at a time. Filter material will need to be changed often. Hehe while I agree it's most likely dinoflagellates, how did you manage to not get any of it in focus with your pic? Only some mesh in the background is in focus. Anyways, do you also have a picture of the tank? Is it on your rocks as well? In addition to a thorough scrub down another way to at least help prevent them from coming back is to use an appropriately sized UV sterilizer which can kill the dinospores. Some dinos are toxic so it's also a good idea to run a bunch of carbon. Not sure what that bag is but if it's carbon it obviously needs to be changed out for a new bag. Read these at the very least and then get to work! http://www.advancedaquarist.com/blog/how-i-beat-dinoflagellates-and-the-lessons-i-learned http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-11/rhf/index.php Why can't fish go more than one week with no light? Also the algae is only in my sump (its a back wall sump, i have the RSM C 130) so there isn't any on my rocks or sand.. do you guys think a month of no light will kill it off, or would it be better to sterilize the tank in fresh water Link to comment
ajmckay Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Why can't fish go more than one week with no light? Also the algae is only in my sump (its a back wall sump, i have the RSM C 130) so there isn't any on my rocks or sand.. do you guys think a month of no light will kill it off, or would it be better to sterilize the tank in fresh water Well... Fish have to eat for one... A week without food isn't healthy and depending on the current health of the fish could kill it. Also fish-just like any other animal need a routine. If it's suddenly dark for a long period of time then that will stress them out. Honestly if I were going to do a long blackout I would remove the fish into a temporary tank. you could FW dip them if you're concerned about re-contamination. As for the best way for you to kill it off you should research and decide on the best method. We don't know much at all about your tank except what you've posted which is basically nothing except some water parameters. Don't just follow every recommendation given or you'll likely be chasing this for a long time and putting in more effort than you need to. Sorry there's not much of a way to get around doing the research. Link to comment
Rehype Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 As for the best way for you to kill it off you should research and decide on the best method. We don't know much at all about your tank except what you've posted which is basically nothing except some water parameters. Don't just follow every recommendation given or you'll likely be chasing this for a long time and putting in more effort than you need to. Sorry there's not much of a way to get around doing the research. +1. This thread is a great place to start... Link to comment
isaacharry Posted February 10, 2016 Author Share Posted February 10, 2016 +1. This thread is a great place to start... Well... Fish have to eat for one... A week without food isn't healthy and depending on the current health of the fish could kill it. Also fish-just like any other animal need a routine. If it's suddenly dark for a long period of time then that will stress them out. Honestly if I were going to do a long blackout I would remove the fish into a temporary tank. you could FW dip them if you're concerned about re-contamination. As for the best way for you to kill it off you should research and decide on the best method. We don't know much at all about your tank except what you've posted which is basically nothing except some water parameters. Don't just follow every recommendation given or you'll likely be chasing this for a long time and putting in more effort than you need to. Sorry there's not much of a way to get around doing the research. Well... Fish have to eat for one... A week without food isn't healthy and depending on the current health of the fish could kill it. Also fish-just like any other animal need a routine. If it's suddenly dark for a long period of time then that will stress them out. Honestly if I were going to do a long blackout I would remove the fish into a temporary tank. you could FW dip them if you're concerned about re-contamination. As for the best way for you to kill it off you should research and decide on the best method. We don't know much at all about your tank except what you've posted which is basically nothing except some water parameters. Don't just follow every recommendation given or you'll likely be chasing this for a long time and putting in more effort than you need to. Sorry there's not much of a way to get around doing the research. hey so i did some research and i am deciding between two options 1) i fill the tank up with freshwater and start the cycle from scratch 2) i can use Fauna marin Dino - x which would everyone say is a safer option to insure that i don't need to deal with this algae break out again ? Link to comment
arwndsh Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 If its only on the media and bio balls whats the problem? Starting the cycle from scratch is a bad idea if your tank is inhabited by fish and corals. Personally I'd cut back on feeding (to reduce nutrients), toss the bio balls, replace the media, add macros (such as cheatomorph), and do water changes. Link to comment
isaacharry Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share Posted February 12, 2016 started using Dino-x by Fauna marin... works miracles. Link to comment
GMay Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 +1 Dino-X This worked for me, but I got on it as soon as I saw the dino growth. Link to comment
isaacharry Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 +1 Dino-X This worked for me, but I got on it as soon as I saw the dino growth. did you dose everyday or did you do it every second day Link to comment
GMay Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Dosed every other day. Instructions were very confusing I must say. Link to comment
isaacharry Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 Dosed every other day. Instructions were very confusing I must say. yeah also there were some spelling mistakes... to clarify, its 5ml/25 gallons water dosed every other day for a maximum of 42 days? Link to comment
GMay Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 That is correct. You should remove any chemical filter media during the treatment period. Also expect to replace your filter sock more frequently and clean your skimmer, if you have these. Link to comment
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