Guppies in Nano Reef

[YungAcidexAce]

I know that you can acclimate guppies to saltwater. Can I fit 3 guppies in my nano reef?

It's 10 gallons & it has (Not Counting Corals):

1x Ocellaris Clownfish

1x Six-Line Wrasse

1x Green Clown Goby

1x Scarlet Skunk Cleaner Shrimp

1x Fire Shrimp

1x Harlequin Shrimp

1x Candy Stripe Pistol Shrimp

1x Bumble Bee Shrimp (will get 2 more)

1x Turban Snail

3x Astrea Snail

1x Narcisus Snail

8x Dwarf Hermit Crab

1x Shortspine Urchin

 

If not, How many could i fit?

[FlowerMama]

I wouldn't suggest any since you have 3 fish in a 10 g already.

[ndrobey]

I agree that you are already overstocked.

[Tamberav]

Wouldn't the other fish or maybe the cleaner harass them to death? What about the flow?

[ajmckay]

I didn't think you could acclimate FW guppies to full SW...

 

Maybe you're thinking of Mollies (Poecilia)?

 

Even if you could acclimate them to SW it seems like they would just be a snack? That or as mentioned blown around.

 

Let your current tank grow out a bit more and try not to rush livestock purchases... You've hijacked at least one other thread tonight on the same topic! Also make sure you're providing the proper food source for the Harlequin Shrimp... Finally you might find a few of your small shrimp missing one morning along with a fat bellied sixline wrasse...

[SunWyrm]

For the sake of all your answers being in the same place, I took the relevant pieces from your hijack and put them in here.

I wouldn't do it. Though your six line might well be okay with the clown, my bet would be that it would tear the guppies apart. Other than that I would say that 10 gallon is really not that much space for a fish like a six line. It likes to swim around, you know

So many shrimp my head's spinning. Do you have pics or a tank thread? I wouldn't add the guppies imo, they're not very "smart" and everything will go after them, even your clown. I added mollies and literally everything would take a chunk and they'd just stay in the same spot.

The guppies would become food fast or is that fast food?

 

And here are your latest comments:

I like shrimp. I have a lot of rockwork for them. Also, I'm not adding fish now, my clownfish died from ich right after i noticed it. I will be medicating the wrasse & waiting for the tank to be clear of ich. I'm not adding guppies.

After The tank is clear of ich, I'm getting Another Green Clown Goby & a Bluestripe Pipefish.
Maybe also a court jester goby? Would that be too much bioload?
Is it even ich? I'll try to get a picture of the wrasse.

At this point I wasn't even sure if you were actually serious or trolling. If you are serious, then I need you to go do some research and read EVERYTHING you can on your current livestock. You need to worry about them before even thinking of adding anything else.

"It's 10 gallons" does not equal " I have a lot of rockwork...". You don't have enough water volume to handle that bioload (and shrimp eat and poop last I checked) let alone rockwork to give them enough territory space so they don't go after each other.

Since your other fish have died and you're left with a lone six line here is what I think is your best way forward:

1. Remove the sixline (that tank is way too small for such an active fish) and let the tank be fishless for 3 months to let the possible ich die out. After that then you can start looking at what fish are appropriate for a 10g AIO.
2. Remove some of your shrimp. Just because you like them doesn't mean they should be cramped. They need to have individual territories. Pick one of each of the following:

• fire shrimp vs cleaner shrimp
• harlequin vs bumblebee (honestly I would rehome both, unless you're feeding starfish legs and doing insane amounts of water changes to keep the tank clean.)
• the pistol is probably fine to stay as long as no one goes in his home.

3. That urchin is going to outgrow that tank and outcompete your CUC for algae. I would rehome it as well.

Another thing to think about is upgrading to a larger tank. A 10g is a very small size to work with when you want everything. A 30 would be a little better to fit what you currently have.

To answer your last stocking question, the clown goby would be fine in that tank, but I would avoid the court jester and the pipefish. They are delicate and have special dietary requirements. There are plenty of fish that would be happy in a tank that size that we can suggest.

Do you have a separate tank to treat your wrasse? What are you using to medicate it?

Post up some pics and your water parameters and let us help you get your tank on the right track.

[dmarkham]

I would dump the urchin personally. If you have coral it will knock over frags and a nano is to small for them imo. I would also cut back on the amount of shrimp for a 10 gallon. That is a little cramped for them.

[Tamberav]

As for your fish ideas,

 

Definitely would not work out well. Jester gobies and pipefish are specialized feeders and do not take to frozen easily. A sixline wrasse is in direct competition with them and an excellent hunter and will not leave many/any pods for them. Sixlines also get aggressive as they age (especially in small tanks) and really have no business being in with those peaceful/docile fish that could easily be killed.

 

 

I know that you can acclimate guppies to saltwater. Can I fit 3 guppies in my nano reef?
It's 10 gallons & it has (Not Counting Corals):
1x Ocellaris Clownfish
1x Six-Line Wrasse
1x Green Clown Goby
1x Scarlet Skunk Cleaner Shrimp
1x Fire Shrimp
1x Harlequin Shrimp
1x Candy Stripe Pistol Shrimp
1x Bumble Bee Shrimp (will get 2 more)
1x Turban Snail
3x Astrea Snail
1x Narcisus Snail
8x Dwarf Hermit Crab
1x Shortspine Urchin

If not, How many could i fit?

[ReeferReefer]

Dude... Take fish out, don't put more in

[YungAcidexAce]

I have a green clown goby and I'm upgrading to 30 gallons. As of fish in the 10, I'm just gonna add a firefish and a Bluestripe pipefish (I did my research)

[dandelion]

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=15+267+281&pcatid=281

 

QUICK STATS

Minimum Tank Size: 30 gallons

Care Level: Expert Only

Temperament: Peaceful

Reef Compatible: With Caution

Water Conditions: 72-78° F, dKH 8-12, pH 8.1-8.4, sg 1.020-1.025

Max. Size: 3"

Color Form: Blue, Orange

Diet: Carnivore

Origin: Indonesia, Red Sea

Family: Syngnathidae
What do these Quick Stats mean? Click here

overview

The Bluestripe Pipefish is the smallest of the reef pipefishes available in the aquarium hobby. It has a long, slender body with a tiny, tubular mouth and a round, flag-like tail. The body is orange with a blue stripe on either side running from snout to tail. The tail is maroon to red with highly variable yellow, orange, and white markings.

Bluestripe pipefish are among the hardiest pipefish, but are difficult to keep due to their small size and unusual requirements. They normally prefer to eat only Cyclops, small Mysis, and Nutramar Ova.

Looking for the best food to feed your Pipefish? We recommend AlgaGen Tisbe biminiensis.

This species is best kept in mated pairs or harems of one male and multiple females in an aquarium that is 30 gallons or larger. Males are territorial and will not tolerate the presence of one another. If adding more than one bluestripe pipefish to the aquarium, it is recommended to add them at the same time.

After an elaborate courtship dance, the female will attach her adhesive eggs to the concave area on the underside of the male's trunk. A pair will regularly mate in an aquarium if well-fed. It is not easy to determine gender, but mature males typically have a flattened appearance due to the brood patch, while females are more round. With the help of a magnifying glass, opaque papillae can be seen on the snouts of mature males.

It may be kept with small, shy fish such as small gobies,seahorses, dragonets, and firefish. Aggressive, territorial, or fast-moving fish do not make good companions. Pipefish will be harmed by anemones and corals with stinging tentacles or corals that are large enough to consume them, such as brain corals. They can also be harmed by invertebrates such as crabs and large shrimp. These pipefish usually spend daylight hours swimming vertically behind a pipe or upside-down under a rock ledge. At dawn and dusk they can be found swimming out in the open in search of food.

[ndrobey]

I have a green clown goby and I'm upgrading to 30 gallons. As of fish in the 10, I'm just gonna add a firefish and a Bluestripe pipefish (I did my research)

No. You didn't do your research.

[Tamberav]

I would stay away from the pipefish since Nutramar Ova is no longer available.

[YungAcidexAce]

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=15+267+281&pcatid=281

 

QUICK STATS

Minimum Tank Size: 30 gallons

Care Level: Expert Only

Temperament: Peaceful

Reef Compatible: With Caution

Water Conditions: 72-78° F, dKH 8-12, pH 8.1-8.4, sg 1.020-1.025

Max. Size: 3"

Color Form: Blue, Orange

Diet: Carnivore

Origin: Indonesia, Red Sea

Family: Syngnathidae

What do these Quick Stats mean? Click here

overview

The Bluestripe Pipefish is the smallest of the reef pipefishes available in the aquarium hobby. It has a long, slender body with a tiny, tubular mouth and a round, flag-like tail. The body is orange with a blue stripe on either side running from snout to tail. The tail is maroon to red with highly variable yellow, orange, and white markings.

Bluestripe pipefish are among the hardiest pipefish, but are difficult to keep due to their small size and unusual requirements. They normally prefer to eat only Cyclops, small Mysis, and Nutramar Ova.

Looking for the best food to feed your Pipefish? We recommend AlgaGen Tisbe biminiensis.

This species is best kept in mated pairs or harems of one male and multiple females in an aquarium that is 30 gallons or larger. Males are territorial and will not tolerate the presence of one another. If adding more than one bluestripe pipefish to the aquarium, it is recommended to add them at the same time.

After an elaborate courtship dance, the female will attach her adhesive eggs to the concave area on the underside of the male's trunk. A pair will regularly mate in an aquarium if well-fed. It is not easy to determine gender, but mature males typically have a flattened appearance due to the brood patch, while females are more round. With the help of a magnifying glass, opaque papillae can be seen on the snouts of mature males.

It may be kept with small, shy fish such as small gobies,seahorses, dragonets, and firefish. Aggressive, territorial, or fast-moving fish do not make good companions. Pipefish will be harmed by anemones and corals with stinging tentacles or corals that are large enough to consume them, such as brain corals. They can also be harmed by invertebrates such as crabs and large shrimp. These pipefish usually spend daylight hours swimming vertically behind a pipe or upside-down under a rock ledge. At dawn and dusk they can be found swimming out in the open in search of food.