How to choose your return pump for your sump?

[ahoDMV]

How do you choose your return pump output based on your tank and sump sizes?

I purchased a 22 gal tank and a 20 gal sump, what return pump do you think I should get?

Planning on using a Mame overflow with mr aqua 22 gal long and aqueon 20 gal long sump, which will have a refugium.

This will be my first reef tank with a sump, so I'm not too sure which return pump to use.

[jbb]

Jebao DC3000 would be a good choice for that setup imo .

 

Cheap , quiet , and adjustable output. I run a 6000 on my 65 and only run it at 50% which might be a little much .

 

http://www.amazon.com/Jebao-DC-3000-Return-Pump-Aquarium/dp/B00INTDJM6

[gus6464]

Well since you are using a MAME you have to buy a pump that is tuned for it. When I ran a MAME I had a Jebao DC6000 but I could only run it on power level 2. For MAME you want something that pushes out 500-600gph.

 

If you are not dead set on the MAME yet I would actually recommend a different route in the form of a synergy ghost overflow and drilling the mr aqua.

 

You have to keep up maintenance on the MAME as it can fail when it gets really dirty.

[ahoDMV]

Well since you are using a MAME you have to buy a pump that is tuned for it. When I ran a MAME I had a Jebao DC6000 but I could only run it on power level 2. For MAME you want something that pushes out 500-600gph.

 

If you are not dead set on the MAME yet I would actually recommend a different route in the form of a synergy ghost overflow and drilling the mr aqua.

 

You have to keep up maintenance on the MAME as it can fail when it gets really dirty.

 

are there any other options besides drilling it or adding a AIO kit in the tank? I dont feel safe with drilling the tank since I have any experience.

[gulfsurfer101]

I would take out to a glass shop and get it drilled. The ghost overflow is the way to go. The mame looks nice but it really translates to sucks in Latin. The ghost overflow is dead silent and fail proof. I'd do a herbie before I went with a mame overflow. If you must absolutely have it take into account how much gph it can handle then find a pump that pushes just under that with head loss taken into account. You don't 21st to max it out and remember that you want to have slower flow through your fuge and internal powerheads will make up for internal dt flow!

[gus6464]

There is no replacement for a sump. AIO tanks are cool and all but if you can run a sump there is no substitute.

 

I am sure a lfs can drill a tank for you for a small fee no problem.

[ahoDMV]

I would take out to a glass shop and get it drilled. The ghost overflow is the way to go. The mame looks nice but it really translates to sucks in Latin. The ghost overflow is dead silent and fail proof. I'd do a herbie before I went with a mame overflow. If you must absolutely have it take into account how much gph it can handle then find a pump that pushes just under that with head loss taken into account. You don't 21st to max it out and remember that you want to have slower flow through your fuge and internal powerheads will make up for internal dt flow!

 

I will probably go to a local glass shop or aquarium store and see what they'll quote me. How do I determine what size to drill? is there like a set size to drill? I really like how this looks or something similar to this.

 

 

I'll have a VorTech mp10 in the DT and do you think I need a extra powerhead in the sump just to get more flow in the sump or am I find without one?

[ahoDMV]

There is no replacement for a sump. AIO tanks are cool and all but if you can run a sump there is no substitute.

 

I am sure a lfs can drill a tank for you for a small fee no problem.

 

 

I have a AIO 12 gallon nano cube as my first saltwater aquarium. After learning some basics on how to keep a healthy tank, I needed a upgrade. After reading how having a sump is a way to go, I had to try it for myself. I just don't have the concept down yet, as an the plumbing and water flow from the DT to the sump and back to the DT.

 

There are also a couple other things I was concerned about when I was planning on the build.

 

- Overflowing water from DT/Sump

- Having enough room in the Sump in case the power goes out and the water from DT tank flows into the sump

- Having a leak from where the tank will be drilled

- Tank cracking while having it drilled

[gus6464]

 

 

I have a AIO 12 gallon nano cube as my first saltwater aquarium. After learning some basics on how to keep a healthy tank, I needed a upgrade. After reading how having a sump is a way to go, I had to try it for myself. I just don't have the concept down yet, as an the plumbing and water flow from the DT to the sump and back to the DT.

 

There are also a couple other things I was concerned about when I was planning on the build.

 

- Overflowing water from DT/Sump

- Having enough room in the Sump in case the power goes out and the water from DT tank flows into the sump

- Having a leak from where the tank will be drilled

- Tank cracking while having it drilled

 

A ghost overflow is 2 holes which has 2 boxes connected to each other via bulkheads. It is placed near the top of the tank so if something happens with the overflow it is impossible for the whole display to drain to the sump. For the tank you are looking at it would be 4 holes drilled. Two for the ghost and 2 returns. Then the ghost itself has 3 bulkheads for a bean animal setup which is fool proof against failures.

 

 

That is a video of how it works. To me there is no better looking overflow out there.

[Muraki]

 

I will probably go to a local glass shop or aquarium store and see what they'll quote me. How do I determine what size to drill? is there like a set size to drill? I really like how this looks or something similar to this.

 

I'll have a VorTech mp10 in the DT and do you think I need a extra powerhead in the sump just to get more flow in the sump or am I find without one?

 

Hole size is really determined by how much flow you wish to run through the setup. I went with larger holes on my build because did not want to rely on a full siphon or any power heads in the tank, but I am running much higher flow rates through my sump then most recommend, 1500-2000gph. I have a DeepWater DC8 on max flow. But I can literally put my hand over one of my overflows and the other drain can take over without spilling over, comes close though, So I ensure to clean out my drains once a month.

 

The picture you posted is off user "Scorched" tank. Which is what I went off of for my setup. If you go to the very first page of my build thread, there is a link to his thread if you click on his name. He has details of his build there, with numbers to what his flow rate is through the sump. But his tank is a 12L vs the 22L.

 

So my question is, how much flow do you wish to run through your sump? And are you trying to go for a 100% silent setup? or is some noise okay? Either way, whichever setup you go with, there is always fine tuning to get it to where you want it. The Bean animal setup is quiet as long as it is tuned in. I ran one on a freshwater tank, which is actually been set back up at a friends house with slight changes.