Any inverts that could be kept with Catalina goby?

[Luis]

Hello

Are there any inverts such as any stars, feather dusters, cucumbers that could be kept with Catalina goby at 71/72 degrees ?

 

As you can see the temp is bit cool thus not sure if safe to add inverts to the 10 gallon live rock tank .

 

I don't want them to linger but thrive .

 

Thank you

[smeagol108]

Most inverts should be fine at 71-72. Acclimation is key. 71-72 is not outside normal ranges found in reefs. Yes it's on the cooler side, but still capable of keeping anything we keep in our reefs. I keep my tank at 75.

[BulkRate]

Most hermit crabs are good to room temperature (assuming said room is, say 67-74F). So are most starfish/brittle stars and shrimp (upper end of that range) provided the cool-down is gradual.

 

I was under the impression that catalina gobies needed the temp to reliably stay in the mid-lower 60's for long-term survival...not so?

[The Aquarist]

Correct, Catalina gobies are coldwater fish, and should be kept in water in the 60's range. Low 70's is still high, but possibly can be done. At that temp, you should be good with most inverts, even some hardy corals.

[smeagol108]

Correct, Catalina gobies are coldwater fish, and should be kept in water in the 60's range. Low 70's is still high, but possibly can be done. At that temp, you should be good with most inverts, even some hardy corals.

This is correct. Catalina's really should be kept in slightly cooler. U can keep them at 71 but they will have a shorter lifespan. Like most life forms colder temperatures results in slower metabolism and warmer faster. Essentially by keeping the Catalina in warmer water u will be speeding up its life/growth. Prob could keep one for a year or two. I would not expect a long life out of a Catalina in warmer temps.

[metrokat]

Margharite snails

[smeagol108]

Margharite snails

Good answer kat.

[Luis]

Thank you very much everyone .

 

You have opened my eyes that my temp is to warm for Catalinas .

 

The place I got him/her from said 71/72 was fine but I now see it isn't . I'm not going to keep something stressed .

 

I am going to look into a cooling method be it DIY method or smallest but efficient chiller and might as well go full coldwater nano reef with ONLY true cool water inverts which aren't easy to find anymore but not impossible .

 

Thanks again

[The Aquarist]

Thank you very much everyone .

 

You have opened my eyes that my temp is to warm for Catalinas .

 

The place I got him/her from said 71/72 was fine but I now see it isn't . I'm not going to keep something stressed .

 

I am going to look into a cooling method be it DIY method or smallest but efficient chiller and might as well go full coldwater nano reef with ONLY true cool water inverts which aren't easy to find anymore but not impossible .

 

Thanks again

Good call on the goby.

Go to www.coldwatermarineaquatics.com. True coldwater inverts and fish. For a coldwater tank, I would look into an acrylic tank (better insulation) with a good chiller. If you have a smaller tank, you maybe can get away with thermoelectric (Peltier) cooling. With a larger tank, and if you want a much more reliable and powerful unit, I'd recommend a compressor based chiller. I use an aquaeuro usa 1/10 hp chiller for my coldwater tank and it gets the job done and I am happy with it.

[BulkRate]

If you go full coldwater, I suggest you look into a thicker than you'd normally go for acrylic tank. Good news is that custom's fairly easy (My Reef Creations locally comes to mind) - you could get a 10 gallon 1/4" that would be pretty well insulated and not need as much of a chiller on it to keep the temps in line - a peltier system may be an option at that size with acrylic's better insulation.

 

As for stocking such a thing... there's a few around here that are running cold tanks that are really incredible. http://www.coldwatermarineaquatics.com/is one such source that's come up from time to time.

 

EDIT: Huh, ninja'd by The Aquarist.

[BulkRate]

On a somewhat related subject... Micro-Reefs LLC (http://www.micro-reefs.com/%C2'> back from the beyond) may be able to set you up later this month.

 

One of their fortes was coldwater nano builds and would probably be the best "local to this community" stepping off point if you're looking at a redesign along those lines.

[Luis]

Thanks for the sites and info .

 

I was amazed to see the zebra goby in that site which is a fish I love but you never see . Great sites thanks

 

http://www.coldwatermarineaquatics.com/collections/fish-sharks-rays/products/zebra-goby-lypthrypnus-zebra-1

 

I decided to go with acrylic which area pet store has and what is same dimensions as 20 gallon long . They used to have coldwater reef like 10 years ago but here since so many collect from beach and by piers only tropical marine is popular thus no market for coldwater .

 

They said a 1/13 horsepower chiller would be great so looking at that

 

Thanks

[Luis]

On a somewhat related subject... Micro-Reefs LLC ( back from the beyond) may be able to set you up later this month.

 

One of their fortes was coldwater nano builds and would probably be the best "local to this community" stepping off point if you're looking at a redesign along those lines.

Thanks the site seems to be under construction but good to have .

 

http://micro-reefs.com/index.html

[BulkRate]

NR user "mikeguerrero" is the owner/proprietor and has been keeping a couple of other threads warm with the saga of his company's impending return of late. As I said, not a bad place to look to spend any holiday gift money - PM him with what you're looking for and see when/if he's going to be back in action in a timeframe that works for you.

 

Never ran a temperate/coldwater tank but the ones from micro-reefs looked awesome and seemed very reasonably priced considering the engineering challenges.