Could this be the end of the nitrate factory?

[Shark Filtration]

Hello reefers!

My name is Mark and im the inventor of the new M-Shark filter sock. just posting here to see what you all think of it before I begin raising any money to have it mass produced for you all.

See this link to look at it in a bit more detail... http://sharkfiltration.com/blogs/news/17516441-could-this-be-the-end-of-the-nitrate-factory

more info will be coming soon!

Tanks!

[metrokat]

It's interesting. What happens when you don't empty the sock and it gets completely clogged? Is it an open top just like regular socks? There wasn't a top down picture to show the propeller .

Also - will you be offering 200 microns? 100 micron sock won't last me even one day before getting jammed.

[jedimasterben]

 

Could this be the end of the nitrate factory?

No, because you still have a filter sock. You're not actually changing anything, it still works the same - no nutrient export until the sock is physically removed from the system. As long as water is still touching the leftover food/detritus/etc, it will continue to be broken down by bacteria in the system - no exceptions.

[SchnauzerFace]

Revolutionary sock design ... What an age we live in!

 

I like filter socks and I think the term nitrate factory is kind of unfair. The detritus that's collected in a sock would eventually break down into nitrate anyway, right? I'm certainly not an expert on the chemistry involved, but do filter socks actually increase nitrates in some way? Or do they just gather al the crap in one place before it breaks down into nitrates? If so, I don't see how that's a factory.

 

Anyway, I like socks.

[Scorched]

Meh. I'll stick with my filter floss filled sock.

[Cencalfishguy56]

Revolutionary sock design ... What an age we live in!

 

I like filter socks and I think the term nitrate factory is kind of unfair. The detritus that's collected in a sock would eventually break down into nitrate anyway, right? I'm certainly not an expert on the chemistry involved, but do filter socks actually increase nitrates in some way? Or do they just gather al the crap in one place before it breaks down into nitrates? If so, I don't see how that's a factory.

 

Anyway, I like socks.

Just collecting what already will become nitrates lol

[jamescstein]

Interesting idea. Would be interesting to see some actual data instead of, water not as "cloudy" as a measurement.

 

On another note.. whats with all the product add lately. And no just because its a crowd funding product doesn't mean its not still an advertisement. In fact, your advertising an idea for a product, not even a real product.

[SchnauzerFace]

Just collecting what already will become nitrates lol

 

That's what I figured, so I don't get why socks have such a bad reputation.

[markalot]

I think it's an interesting idea, but I still am too lazy to use socks.

 

Before going all in it might be worthwhile to figure out how many people are still using filter socks and to what extent they are worried about nitrate.

 

I'd also be concerned about the wear and the on the sock and how long it might be expected to last.

 

Good luck with your project, thanks for sharing!

[brandon429]

my vote is no major change on nitrates for the hobby. no stoppage of nitrate factory-ing

 

its all the places other than the sock area that contribute as a sink and must be attacked completely separate from the sock itself. I think they only way one can claim stoppage of nitrate factories is to find something that affects the whole tank and something that causes stuff you put in to be taken out in a more convenient way.

[MrNanoReef]

Meh. I'll stick with my filter floss filled sock.

im with you bro...I'll stick with just floss and do regular tank maintenance

[Cencalfishguy56]

 

That's what I figured, so I don't get why socks have such a bad reputation.

Keep them clean and I don't see the problem haha

[Shark Filtration]

NO! was the correct answer! you are all absolutely correct (obviously, you are all far more knowledgeable about aquariums than me!)

 

Nitrates will continue to build up within any filter sock until you clean it... HOWEVER... (there's always a but) I do believe with this new filter sock it will prolong the time taken for nitrates to build up because there is less water washing over the debris inside the sock, and also because the debris is not breaking down as fast as it would whilst its being thrashed about in a regular sock.

 

Thank you all for your feedback on this one, I do appreciate it, both good and the bad. I have removed the video from my blog and will soon replace it with a much more in detail one about the sock which I hope will give you a better understanding of how it works.

 

Thanks again!

[Laagernaught]

clearly witchcraft and tom foolery

[HarryPotter]

Cool idea. A few comments:

 

• We need some data beyond "It will make water less cloudy". Testing is required to arouse interest, perhaps you can even sponsor a few high level hobbyists? At least have pictures of it installed....
• The idea is sound. With less turbulence, detritus will break up at a much slower rate. However, I cannot find that information within your site.
• If you are a sponsor/seller, please make an account accordingly. Without that, people resent that you are just "advertising" without helping out the site.

[basser1]

clearly witchcraft and tom foolery

 

Or snake oil....

[rone_kevin66]

Nice idea but who's going to buy a 30 dollar sock when the 5 dollar ones works just fine if u clean and replace them. I like my socks leave them in for 2 days a swap them out for a clean one.

[Cencalfishguy56]

Nice idea but who's going to buy a 30 dollar sock when the 5 dollar ones works just fine if u clean and replace them. I like my socks leave them in for 2 days a swap them out for a clean one.

I just get a generic brand at Walmart, 3 pack of socks for three bucks

[jedimasterben]

Nitrates will continue to build up within any filter sock until you clean it... HOWEVER... (there's always a but) I do believe with this new filter sock it will prolong the time taken for nitrates to build up because there is less water washing over the debris inside the sock, and also because the debris is not breaking down as fast as it would whilst its being thrashed about in a regular sock.

What you're saying doesn't make sense - there is still the same amount of water flowing through the filter sock and the same amount is touching the detritus unless the detritus is physically removed. There may be some merit to the detritus being broken up into smaller bits less with less forceful flow, but the detritus is still in the system and therefore being broken down - I'd venture to guess that the difference between the two is nil.

[Murphs_Reef]

Hmmm.. If it's in the water, it's in the water.. I love the idea, but I drive past the LFS daily and 3 times out of 5 I have a bottle of pre mixed on the way home.. Yep I'll spend 30 quid in a few weeks but.... I don't gave to do much..

 

Data would really help as it would be good if I didn't have to stop at LFS so much.. But...