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Hey everyone. Was hoping I could get some ideas in getting rid of a macro algae issue I'm having. I've had some folks say the only way to get rid of it is brute force, and I've tried that, but unsuccessfully. It always seems to come back. I can pull most of it off, but I'd love to find some sort of fish or invertebrate that would help erradicate it.

 

The last water test I contducted showed ammonia, nitrate, nitrite, and phosphate are all at 0, calcium is at 420, and KH is at 125.3

 

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Good luck trying to find something to eat those macros. Best course would be to use the hydrogen peroxide method but even that is doubtful.

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speaker73, hydrogen peroxide method? Not familiar with it. Though I'm trying to stay away from chemicals as the algae is also on some rocks that have zoa colonies on them.

 

jedimasterben, any difference between Mexican turbo snails and "regular" ones? I have 2, and they pretty much leave the stuff alone. I'll have to do some research into rabbitfish.

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Some hermits will eat macros. Mine was completely controlled that way. I also don't mind having some in the tank as it helps control nitrates and phosphates in the system.

 

If you feel it is a problem, I would suggest just remove as much as you can to start with and then add a couple extra critters to ehlp keep it under control

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SchnauzerFace

I tried to put some macro in my display once, and my purple pincushion urchin and turbo snails ate it in about a day.

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The last water test I contducted showed ammonia, nitrate, nitrite, and phosphate are all at 0

When you have an algae bloom, it's taking the nutrients out of the water column. So it's important to regularly monitor nutrients (prior to a bloom).

 

I'm also guessing that you'd see some phosphate if you had a higher resolution test. For example, an API Phosphate test kit goes up in 0.25ppm increments of phosphate, whereas a Hana Phosphorus ULR checker goes up in 0.003ppm increments of phosphate. Since the target value of phosphate is 0.01 to 0.03ppm, a test kit that goes up in 0.25ppm increments isn't helpful.

 

 

hydrogen peroxide method? Not familiar with it.

http://www.nano-reef.com/topic/268706-peroxide-saves-my-tank-with-pics-to-prove-it/

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DurocShark

I think it looks great, but I've always been a planted tank guy.

 

My hermits don't touch my macros. As mentioned the Mexican variety of turbos will munch, as will a rabbitfish. Urchins are a good thought too, though I've never had one myself. As I understand it, they also eat coralline algae, so you may not want urchins.

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jedimasterben

jedimasterben, any difference between Mexican turbo snails and "regular" ones? I have 2, and they pretty much leave the stuff alone. I'll have to do some research into rabbitfish.

Most LFS don't know that 'astrea' snails aren't 'turbo' snails. One of the main problems with common names ;)

 

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jedimasterben, any difference between Mexican turbo snails and "regular" ones? I have 2, and they pretty much leave the stuff alone.

The Mexican ones work hella hard for cheap.

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DurocShark

Ok dude. Don't be racist.

:lol:

 

 

I used to have that sign on my wall at my last job. I think it's time to find a new one...

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I have fern caulerpa and some other serrated kind that was taking over my rocks. I got a Tuxedo urchin and he ate it, I now have three and while I don't think they'll eradicate it they are getting it under control. You might get one and see what it will eat. Mine don't touch the codium or my 'fancy' red macros (halimeda??), I consider that a plus but if you're looking to be 'macro free' hydrogen peroxide is probably your best bet. Trying to pull it out sucks!

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so it seems like urchins are a common way to get rid of it. Any particular variety I should look at? Also, how difficult are they to care for? Last thing I need is something to die when I put it in there to help me out.

 

I don't necessarily want to completely eradicate it as I appreciate what it does to my nitrate levels, but to keep it well under control.

 

My hermits and "turbos" don't touch the stuff right now.

 

I'm also guessing that you'd see some phosphate if you had a higher resolution test. For example, an API Phosphate test kit goes up in 0.25ppm increments of phosphate, whereas a Hana Phosphorus ULR checker goes up in 0.003ppm increments of phosphate. Since the target value of phosphate is 0.01 to 0.03ppm, a test kit that goes up in 0.25ppm increments isn't helpful.

 

 

Any suggeestions on where to get that test? I currently use the API test for my calcium and and phosphate levels.

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I don't know how big your tank is .... I went with Tuxedo's because I'd read they eat algae, stay small (about 3 inches max) and don't bulldoze everything in their path. I think they're great, they use these long feelers to move themselves around and so far they haven't bothered anything. They do have a tendency to decorate themselves as camouflage though, one of mine briefly picked up a few zoas that had gotten loose, he put them down in a nicer spot though ;). I often have trouble finding them because they are covered in caulerpa and shells. As long as you attach your frags to something it's all good, I'd say they're less likely to rearrange things then my blue leg hermits or big Cerith snails. I don't have experience with any other urchins.

 

They don't eat very fast though, don't expect results overnight, they tend to sit in one place chowing or resting then move a bit and repeat. As I said above, start with one, put him on the caulerpa and see what he does. If you don't start to see 'bald spots' in a few days then they may not like the caulerpa you've got.

 

As far as care, if they eat the macros you're good, otherwise they'll need another source of algae. I haven't done anything special for them, I did acclimate them slowly based on reccs from .... Idk, somewhere :)

 

Good luck

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I don't know how big your tank is .... I went with Tuxedo's because I'd read they eat algae, stay small (about 3 inches max) and don't bulldoze everything in their path. I think they're great, they use these long feelers to move themselves around and so far they haven't bothered anything. They do have a tendency to decorate themselves as camouflage though, one of mine briefly picked up a few zoas that had gotten loose, he put them down in a nicer spot though ;). I often have trouble finding them because they are covered in caulerpa and shells. As long as you attach your frags to something it's all good, I'd say they're less likely to rearrange things then my blue leg hermits or big Cerith snails. I don't have experience with any other urchins.

 

They don't eat very fast though, don't expect results overnight, they tend to sit in one place chowing or resting then move a bit and repeat. As I said above, start with one, put him on the caulerpa and see what he does. If you don't start to see 'bald spots' in a few days then they may not like the caulerpa you've got.

 

As far as care, if they eat the macros you're good, otherwise they'll need another source of algae. I haven't done anything special for them, I did acclimate them slowly based on reccs from .... Idk, somewhere :)

 

Good luck

 

 

I have a 29 gallon Biocube. I may have to look into getting one. either that or a Mexican Turbo. Any suggestions on where I could get one or the other? Not sure if I trust my LFS to something like that. Seems like they don't quite know their stuff.

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Can also try mithrax crabs. They are are "supposed" to eat bubble algae. When I tried one in one of my tanks, it ignored the bubble algae and devored a whole bunch of Dragon's Breath macroalgae overnight...

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The last thing you want do is go dumping chemicals in a tank. Start simple there are literally dozens of inverts and fish that will naturally take care of this. The inverts that were suggested are all great choices and you should start there. If I ever get to a point that I start dumping peroxide into a reef tank I will give this hobby up. The turtle wins this race not the rabbit. Understand your tanks parameters, it's lows and highs. Lighting, water source, livestock choices and general reading will solve most problems.

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JoeDigiorgio

Where are you located? If you're willing to rip as much as possible out before adding emerald crabs to finish it off ill pay shipping for it. Emeralds will eat it. That's why I don't have anymore of my own.

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I have a 29 gallon Biocube. I may have to look into getting one. either that or a Mexican Turbo. Any suggestions on where I could get one or the other? Not sure if I trust my LFS to something like that. Seems like they don't quite know their stuff.

 

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/aquarium-fish-supplies.cfm?c=497

 

Longspine urchin should take care of it. They love to eat it.

And grow to be about the size of a basketball. Not suitable to keep long term in a BC29.
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Where are you located? If you're willing to rip as much as possible out before adding emerald crabs to finish it off ill pay shipping for it. Emeralds will eat it. That's why I don't have anymore of my own.

 

I'm in Chicago

 

Bit a small one would take care of the problem. When it gets too big, just trade it for something.

 

I'm hoping for some long term control, so that's out.

 

 

Thanks for the link! I think I'll try one of those urchins for now, and if that doesn't work try a bull dozer... er... turbo snail or two

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