tanked_kiwi Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 A couple of weeks ago I bought a zoa covered rock. It looks nice but I don't have a lot of room in my 16in cube. Ideally I'd like to 'transfer' a good chunk of the colony to my rock and maybe frag or sell the rest. Is this possible without killing it off? I had also thought about removing the top left rock and putting the new rock there, my rock is all epoxied together though so I'm not sure that's possible either. What to do? Link to comment
Jellyingabout Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Yeah easy, just cut the mat and peel it off Link to comment
Sunstar Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 But wear gloves and I would say a face shield because of palytoxin. Link to comment
Jellyingabout Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 typical zoas like that don't contain enough play toxin to be dangerous, its the palythoa that you have to look out for. http://www.coralbiome.com/2011/11/palytoxine-danger/ I'd wear gloves anyway cos the smell is horrendous and doesn't was out well. Link to comment
tanked_kiwi Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 Yeah easy, just cut the mat and peel it off You mean pull the mat off like what's in the picture? I guess I need to do this without cutting the polyps? And then super glue it onto my rock? Sorry for the newb questions I've never fragged anything before! Can just picture myself killing the lot... But wear gloves and I would say a face shield because of palytoxin.I had heard of this, I will wear glasses and gloves regardless, just in case. Link to comment
patback Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Your mat is sort of lacking....GOOD!. It will make it easier to get small sections fragged off. Ime, I like to cut sections of mat around a number of polyps and then scrape a small layer of rock underneath the new frag. It is less detrimental to them and it also makes it a ton easier to glue elsewhere. Link to comment
tanked_kiwi Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 Your mat is sort of lacking....GOOD!. It will make it easier to get small sections fragged off. Ime, I like to cut sections of mat around a number of polyps and then scrape a small layer of rock underneath the new frag. It is less detrimental to them and it also makes it a ton easier to glue elsewhere. OK, good for fragging, but I'd like to transfer say 75% of this to my own rock and frag the rest. Will this work? Link to comment
Jellyingabout Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Yeah, that'l be fine. Just cut the the mat separating your 75% and 25% if possible remove your 25% and then transfer the 75% with the rock. If not then peel the whole lot up. Again if possible remove the rock before you do your cutting and peeling and rinse it all before putting it back in the tank. This is because as you frag the zoas will release mucus, often with toxins and nasties in for, self defense, that you don't want in your tank. If you have to peel up the 75% that's ok it'll just take longer to recover, Glue it down with superglue gel (make sure its cyanoacrelate). With the 25% you want to frag put it in small tub with some tank water. Gather some small pieces of live rock, a towel, a very sharp knife, and a some super glue. On a clean surface, rinsed with RO or tank water, cut the coenosarc (the mat) around groups of 2-3 polyps and seperate, return to the tub of tank water while you do the other steps. Then dab dry the pieces of LR and superglue the frags down, place them in the tub of water to get the superglue to set hard. Job done Link to comment
tanked_kiwi Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 Yeah, that'l be fine. Just cut the the mat separating your 75% and 25% if possible remove your 25% and then transfer the 75% with the rock. If not then peel the whole lot up. Again if possible remove the rock before you do your cutting and peeling and rinse it all before putting it back in the tank. This is because as you frag the zoas will release mucus, often with toxins and nasties in for, self defense, that you don't want in your tank. If you have to peel up the 75% that's ok it'll just take longer to recover, Glue it down with superglue gel (make sure its cyanoacrelate). With the 25% you want to frag put it in small tub with some tank water. Gather some small pieces of live rock, a towel, a very sharp knife, and a some super glue. On a clean surface, rinsed with RO or tank water, cut the coenosarc (the mat) around groups of 2-3 polyps and seperate, return to the tub of tank water while you do the other steps. Then dab dry the pieces of LR and superglue the frags down, place them in the tub of water to get the superglue to set hard. Job done Thanks very much for the detailed instructions! I will be removing the whole lot from that rock, there's no space in my little tank for it. Hopefully it all goes well. Link to comment
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