Jorgieee Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I have my cadlights 42 versa setup already now I'm deciding on a light I'm leaning towards a kessil, but I like the design of the Maxspect razor. Do you guys have any opinions versus the two ? Thanks Quote Link to comment
Paleoreef103 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I have my cadlights 42 versa setup already now I'm deciding on a light I'm leaning towards a kessil, but I like how the design of the Maxspect razor. Do you have any opinions versus the two ? Thanks The big advantage of Kessils is the single point source nature of the design. The light aesthetic is very similar to a metal halide. The razor on the other hand has every other advantage. Better LED chips. Considerably better spectrum. More power. Better coverage. Built in spectral control and programming. If you asked me which I'd take, it would be the razor every time. The warm color rendition of the razor is just so much better. A 160W 16K razor will blow away a Kessil based system. 1 Quote Link to comment
BluCrab Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I own both ,the issue with the Razor is the 90 degree lens, I ended up replacing them with the 120, better spread less disco effect. Seen good growth from both ,the advantage Kessil has is the shimmer is beautiful IMO. Now that Blue Fish is coming out with the wireless controller for Razor ,that takes away one of the advantages that Kessil had. I like the Kessil over the Maxspect. Quote Link to comment
Horerczy Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Both are good lights. Personally I'd take the maxpect over the kessil for a large tank and kessils for smaller ones if they're the only options. Exception: sps heavy tanks would need a little something more than either could offer in the spread department. 1 Quote Link to comment
Jorgieee Posted April 14, 2015 Author Share Posted April 14, 2015 Yeah that shimmer effect is awesome that's one of my favorite things about the kessil 1 Quote Link to comment
Jorgieee Posted April 14, 2015 Author Share Posted April 14, 2015 Both are good lights. Personally I'd take the maxpect over the kessil for a large tank and kessils for smaller ones if they're the only options. Exception: sps heavy tanks would need a little something more than either could offer in the spread department. Those two are my only option I have the versa cadlights and it's rimless so I'm looking at something that comes with brackets or a gooseneck Quote Link to comment
reefdiver88 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I have the maxspect razor. very happy with it. elegant sleek design. seems well made. I have no personal experience with Kessil, but people who have them are very happy with them as well. Quote Link to comment
R1sky_Biz Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I have the kessil A160we and I love it. No experience with the Maxspect but I cant get enough of the shimmer from the a160! In terms of the Spectral differences I'm not sure which is better and I cant say that you would see a MASSIVE difference between either as far as growth and coloration is concerned so I would say they are both good but go with the one that suits your vision for the tank. Quote Link to comment
rone_kevin66 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I just got the razor a few ago. Haven't had it running due to starting new tank with it. But I did have it on and it is a nice powerful light that looks awesome. I have it mounted with the legs+ it comes with them. Also with the blue fish coming out for it is only going to make it that much better Quote Link to comment
DaveFason Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Check my QUAD with dual goosenecks as well. $675. Plenty of spread and great shimmer. -Dave 3 Quote Link to comment
bpb Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I don't use any of the aforementioned units. But in research, it seems Daves lights have a better spectrum layout and higher quality LEDs. Having seen the kessil and the maxspect in person, I like how the kessil looks a lot more. The color blending is fantastic. They're the most expensive of the group though. If it were me I'd go with Dave/nano box 1 Quote Link to comment
VW_TDI_02 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 30*18*18. A kessil will only cover 24*24 so you're going to have a good bit of darkness if you go with a single kessil. Oh, and a 24" NanoBox Quad should also cover a 30" tank according to his website. 1 Quote Link to comment
gus6464 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 A nanobox quad will grow anything you want no matter where you put it on that tank. 3 Quote Link to comment
Paleoreef103 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 A nanobox quad will grow anything you want no matter where you put it on that tank. Oh yeah. It's easily the best. Quote Link to comment
Jorgieee Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share Posted April 15, 2015 I really don't like the nanobox personally from experience that's why I'm going with those two options I honestly don't care about the money i want something that won't give me a problem and I doubt the LEDs on them are better then kessil or the Maxspects Quote Link to comment
Horerczy Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 You care about quality but you're looking at kessil and maxpect over nanobox? Mind=blown 1 Quote Link to comment
Jorgieee Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share Posted April 15, 2015 Yeah I don't think it's my cup of tea I have had a nanobox and had lots of problem with growth and corals whereas I have seen all types of stuff grow with kessils with no problem at once. You might have your opinion but that's just how I feel about it. Don't get me wrong it's not a bad light but I don't think it can compete with either of the two in my opinion Quote Link to comment
gus6464 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 It's obvious you want the Kessil so why ask what we think about it? Just go buy 2x Kessil A360 and grow whatever you want. I have yet to see a tank in person with a razor that looks good to me but everyone is different. Or just get a Radion Pro which is a proven light. If you don't like how a Radion grows stuff then there's another problem. Quote Link to comment
Jorgieee Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share Posted April 15, 2015 It's obvious you want the Kessil so why ask what we think about it? Just go buy 2x Kessil A360 and grow whatever you want. It's not about what I want it's about which light would be best from the two. I am not going to buy something that I'm not going to be satisfied with and the light you're talking about isn't what I want from my experience I owned it. Like I said I don't think it even comes close to the two. That is why i said kessil vs maxspect opinions not NANOBOX ! Quote Link to comment
gus6464 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I have a Kessil A150 in a box somewhere. Now I have a DIY light made out of 4 nanobox pucks. The nanobox are better in every way in terms of color and spectrum. There are plenty of lights out there that have arm mounts for rimless tanks. Radion - RMS mount Hydra - EXT arm mount Prime - swivel arm mount Kessil - gooseneck arm I would take any of those lights over a razor any day of the week. The razor has way too narrow optics so it's disco galore. Although you can buy the wide angle optics now but it still sucks that if you want a different spectrum you have to buy a totally different light because the pucks are configured differently. All the other ones can do 10-20K without buying other lights. You say it's not about what you want but it definitely is about that. You said nanobox doesn't grow corals well for you yet it far and away has the best spectrum out of all the lights listed and it's proven by people's tanks. Another option is to forgo LEDs all together and just get a 6 bulb ATI T5 unit. The 24" will be fine on that tank and then you can choose your aesthetic in unlimited combinations. Quote Link to comment
aviator300 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Come on guys, The OP wants our feelings about Kessil VS Maxspect. Why all the venom and arguing about NanoBox VS all the rest. He didn't ask that. I also feel that NanoBox is the best but as to his question. Between the 2, i would go with Maxspect. I like the better control and IMO the color rendering is very good. With the Kessil, you get a narrower beam with more shadowing. All of this is just my opinion. 2 Quote Link to comment
Jorgieee Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share Posted April 15, 2015 Come on guys, The OP wants our feelings about Kessil VS Maxspect. Why all the venom and arguing about NanoBox VS all the rest. He didn't ask that. I also feel that NanoBox is the best but as to his question. Between the 2, i would go with Maxspect. I like the better control and IMO the color rendering is very good. With the Kessil, you get a narrower beam with more shadowing. All of this is just my opinion. Thanks !! you seem to be one of the few that understands what I was asking apparently i wasn't clear enough to some people ! Quote Link to comment
VW_TDI_02 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Are you going with just one kessil or two? One won't be able to cover that tank. Quote Link to comment
Jorgieee Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share Posted April 15, 2015 Are you going with just one kessil or two? One won't be able to cover that tank. If I go that route I'll use two of them. Quote Link to comment
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