Victor1977 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 my Lionfish just did a shake and all sorts of wight stuff came off of him. Or maybe it's venom. Idk . I do know my NO3 is high. Am working on that. Am going to do a 40% WC now and test again in the morning. Am using API stips. As my kit was left at a customers home. And is now missing. I think am going to start to us Red Sea everything. Insted of this mix and match BS am doing now. Anyway back to my lion. It looked like some kind of defensive move. Like a octopus and ink. But I have never herd of lions doing anything like that. Ok I vote to get on this water change. And I'll post the new readings in the morning as its already 9:40 PM Link to comment
Han Solo Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 This exact thing happened to my fu manchu once, or at least one time that I saw it happen. White film like stuff was shook off like a dog, I figured it was some sort of shedding or something. That was months ago and never seen him do it again, nor was there any problem. I didn't try and siphon anything out, I may have done a small water change, but I do remember it being as much as you describe. Link to comment
seabass Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 "Lionfish are hardy fish, and if fed well and provided with good water quality, almost never contract diseases or parasites. It is important to note that a thin membranous lining called a cuticle covers lionfish. Since lionfish are sedentary fish, the cuticle is used to protect the lionfish from settling organisms. In fact, lionfish will occasionally shed their cuticle to remove any unwanted hitchhikers. A shed cuticle looks like a large mass of whitish stringy mucus, and this shedding occurs when a lionfish just start flashing around the aquarium, trailing white stringy mucus behind it. Cuticle shedding is also a sign of improper health in lionfish, as stressed lionfish or lionfish kept in poor water quality will increase shedding behavior." http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-11/fm/feature/ Link to comment
Victor1977 Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 Ok good sounds normal. Even if It did freak me out. Ok I promised water chemistry and I will soon as am up. Am just I don't need to stress. Link to comment
Victor1977 Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 Ok so my 40% water Chang . Did not Chang much. My NO3 is still going up. Ok this is the new readings please don't kill me lol. NO3- 160 not good NO2- 0 varry good PH 8.0 not bad KH 60 in the freshwater world I did not test for this . So don't know much about it GH 180+ don't know much about this one ether. Other then my water is hard as rock lol. It's a 55g tank . Running a ocean clear canister filter. That's it. I have about 40 ponds of live rock. Lot of room for more. As its a year old I do have livestock. 1. Drorf Lionfish 1. Snow flack eel. Came with the rock. So he was a pain in the but. As it was not ready for him. But he was also free. And one dansal I have 3 candy cane corals . Oh and let's not forget the spong after all. The spong is why am on this forum. Ok question time as I bet I forgot something. Like spell check. But this is not school. And I don't think it's so bad that you can't read it . Link to comment
amphipod Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Maybe something is dying or dead to release the nitrates, maybe the sponge dying. Also don't worry, as long as its readable (which yours is) it is fine, we are not all english masters, or scientists so it really doesn't matter much to me personally how you spell. Link to comment
Victor1977 Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 Lol in one post you say it looks good. In this one you say it mite be dying. It looks good your right. But with what I have learned. I don't have much hope. If I can save it I'll be so proud of my self. If I loss it. I can only blame myself. Link to comment
amphipod Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Lol in one post you say it looks good. In this one you say it mite be dying. It looks good your right. But with what I have learned. I don't have much hope. If I can save it I'll be so proud of my self. If I loss it. I can only blame myself. in the other thread the extra detail of the shrimp scraps which explained the no3 instead of a potentially dying sponge. Sometimes looks can be deceiving of animals, on the outside it may look fine but be very sick internally. Link to comment
NorthGaHillbilly Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 if your nitrates are indeed 160, then your in a bad place man. I would do as large a water change as you can immediately, and then find the source of your problem. Link to comment
Victor1977 Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 in the other thread the extra detail of the shrimp scraps which explained the no3 instead of a potentially dying sponge. Sometimes looks can be deceiving of animals, on the outside it may look fine but be very sick internally. That's true. I have not hade it long. But in that short time. I mad 2 hug mistakes. First part of it came out of the water. If only for a moment. As I put it in the tank. On top of that. I did not know not to touch it with my hands. So hopping for the best. But I think if am lucky. Parts mite live. But parts will likely not make it. My plan is to up water changes to deal with the spike and hope for the best. Don't know what els to do for the poor thing other then clean up the water. The candy cans can live without food for now. Oh and am going to order red seas program. Dirty shrimp makes corals happy. But the con of a dirty tank is just to much. Link to comment
amphipod Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Do you have a good collection of hitchhikers to act as a clean up crew, or any sort of clean up crew? Link to comment
Victor1977 Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 Not so much. I need a clean up crew that can live with the eel and not end up as his dinner. I do have some tiny snails that came in on the rock. He eats the big ones. But thar are always some and the new worm. What ever kind he is. Link to comment
amphipod Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Not so much. I need a clean up crew that can live with the eel and not end up as his dinner. I do have some tiny snails that came in on the rock. He eats the big ones. But thar are always some and the new worm. What ever kind he is. small things like amphipods, smaller snails like stomatella, small brittle starfish, and of course polychaetes make a great uneatable clean up crew. Usually they come in live rock but if you live near the ocean a quick scum, and seaweed pick should get you some amphipods and polychaetes, take the seaweed and a small tub of ocean water and a small aquarium fine mesh fish net. Pull apart the seaweed and when they all swim out net them up, or pour the water through the net, and there you have an awesome free clean up crew, friendly tip, you have to dig deep in the wet rotting seaweed to get more worms, and they don't swim well so gently scoop them with your hands, its dirty but totally worth it. Link to comment
Victor1977 Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 The water is cold in Oregon. And we have laws agents it. I'd hate to have fish and game think I was looking for small crabs or starfish and bust me for it. The ones I'd be looking for my or my not be legal. But i just don't know. So I think I'll just get some live rock from my LfS next time I go. Oh and the eel is still small. He will still eat brine shrimp. Just now moving him to bigger foods. He was so tiny when I got him. He couldn't of Ben a week old. Link to comment
Steve973 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 You mention that you have hard water. If you are using tap water (even filtered tap water), then you should stop doing that now. Use purified water that either comes from the store as distilled water, or get yourself an RO/DI unit. That may be a huge part of your trouble. Link to comment
Victor1977 Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 How long is the eel?About 8"You mention that you have hard water. If you are using tap water (even filtered tap water), then you should stop doing that now. Use purified water that either comes from the store as distilled water, or get yourself an RO/DI unit. That may be a huge part of your trouble. I use a friends ro unit but I don't like it. I need one of my own. Link to comment
amphipod Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 About 8" I use a friends ro unit but I don't like it. I need one of my own. does he have a name? Link to comment
Victor1977 Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 Rotflmao that quote looks so inappropriate. Erle the eel. Assuming your asking the eels name. Link to comment
amphipod Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Lol I just noticed now that you mentioned it. Yeah I meant the eel's name. That's a nice name for an eel lol Link to comment
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