Jbrock183 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 I've had a single head duncan that has done beautifully for the past 3-4 months. In sack he was showing signs of splitting. Suddenly it became obvious that he was also growing a new head entirely. But for the past week he has not opened even one time. Is this part of the splitting and reproduction process? Or is he dying? This is him now. All closed up. Link to comment
Jbrock183 Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 This is him almost 2 months ago. Link to comment
jc2014 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 oh that does not look good. Almost like it has some kind of disease. I would act quickly to dip it or move it to a different location. It may be losing a chemical war with an adjacent coral. Link to comment
Jbrock183 Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 . What would I dip it in? Link to comment
markalot Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 What's going on in the tank? What test kits do you use? How do you measure salinity? Salinity? KH? Calcium? Anything change before this happened? Any changes to the lighting, additives, other equipment? Link to comment
Neebles Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 My duncan does this every once in a while...usually right before I need to do a water change or right after. It stayed closed like that for probably 2 weeks at one point. I've actually had it close up completely so you couldn't tell what it even was. It always opens back up though, and it has a good half dozen or so new heads sprouting. I would do a water change of you haven't done one recently and see what happens. Link to comment
FishFrog Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Mine doesn't really split, it just grows new heads. Do you feed it at all? Link to comment
Jbrock183 Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 I recently did a 25% water change. I keep my salinity at 1.023 and only use reef crystals and RO / DI water. Parameters are perfect. I feed a rotated mix of flake food (Omega one with garlic), frozen brine shrimp, dried seaweed, and phytoplankton. I also supplement wit trace elements and a buffer I recently did a 25% water change. I keep my salinity at 1.023 and only use reef crystals and RO / DI water. Parameters are perfect. I feed a rotated mix of flake food (Omega one with garlic), frozen brine shrimp, dried seaweed, and phytoplankton. I also supplement wit trace elements and a buffer Link to comment
markalot Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 1.023 is low for a reef, should be 1.025 - 1.026 Perfect params is not good enough, you need numbers if you want good help, otherwise everything is just a guess. Link to comment
Jbrock183 Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 Calcium 430 ppm alkalinity 130 ppm pH 8.2 Nitrate and ammonia 0 Magnesium 1300 ppm Temp 77-79 degrees I'm certain it's not my water parameters. Even my more difficult and sensitive coral is more than thriving - excelling would be a better word. Link to comment
ghostgr Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 My duncan hasnt done that or "split" but it does have 6 new heads growing. My duncan does seem to enjoy dirtier water than much. Link to comment
plainrt Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 That's a goner imo. I believe duncans get some sort of disease. I had happen few times. They get weird yellow things on skeleton and next thing know they are pissed off. Link to comment
Jbrock183 Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 I don't see any yellow on the skeleton. It just doesn't open any more. So, the general conclusion is that it's dying and there's nothing I can do to help it out - even though it is showing obvious signs of life? Link to comment
basser1 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 IMO, it is going to sprout new heads. Mine does that as well. Have you tried feeding it to see if it will open up? Might try some frozen brine or mysis to see how it reacts. Link to comment
plainrt Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Is it just me or is 1/2 the head missing from Skeleton? Link to comment
FishFrog Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Is it just me or is 1/2 the head missing from Skeleton? Yes. Is it just the photo or is it missing a big chunk? Maybe something took a bite out of it?? Link to comment
CronicReefer Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 That looks like symptoms of brown jelly disease to me without the brown jelly coming out. The polyp detaching from the skeleton like that has always been a bad sign from what I've seen. Link to comment
Jbrock183 Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 Thank you for the suggestion of an iodine dip. I really want to try to save it if possible. Thank you. Any attempt at hope is mostly what I was hoping for. It's not missing a big chunk , though it does look that way. The tentacles are shifting toward the back of the skeleton. So the place that looks like a missing chunk is a result of shifting position. I know it sounds strange. Link to comment
plainrt Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 When mine shift they don't leave the base at all. When mine have died they looked like yours. Link to comment
Jbrock183 Posted December 26, 2014 Author Share Posted December 26, 2014 So I tried the iodine dip but after a few days the entire head was gone. I debated on whether or not to remove it and decided to leave it and see what happens. A few weeks later I now see a tiny head starting to sprout. The base appears to be completely dead. Should I cut the tiny head from the base? Or should I just continue to wait? Link to comment
Jbrock183 Posted December 26, 2014 Author Share Posted December 26, 2014 This is what it looks like now - after losing the entire head. Is it brown jelly disease ? Link to comment
MikeTR Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 it's not brown jelly disease, it wouldn't have grown back after that. I would just leave it alone and feed it mysis. It will continue to lay down new skeleton and branch off that base. Any chance of a clearer pic? Link to comment
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