MadReefer13 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 so everytime i add a fish they wont eat and end up dieing off. all levles are good and cant figgure this out bugging me bad .lost a clown two wrasses and a bleeny in about three weeks. all my corals are growing and doing better then great just my fish are all dead and gone. gonna test again right now and ill post up soon. Link to comment
markalot Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 How did you cycle the tank? How many fish added at once? Size tank, how old? Link to comment
Tamberav Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Were the fish all from the same store? Link to comment
MadReefer13 Posted September 30, 2014 Author Share Posted September 30, 2014 no not same store anks been up for like four months and 3 months maybe 4 in a diffrent tank so about 7 or 8 mounth old Link to comment
famousdan314 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Perhaps allow your tank to chill without fish for a few months. It could be a parasite or ich and without fish hopefully whatever is causing your deaths will die off without a host. Hope you can get to the bottom of it, I've had my share of issues with fish and not coral when I switched to my larger current system. Just bad luck and poor practice of not doing a proper quarantine got me in trouble. Also, a lot of times low PH can cause extra stress on new fish. Check to ensure your PH is stable most reef fish can live happily in a PH range of 7.9 to 8.4 which is a pretty wide range so make sure you also acclimate slowly depending on what your LFS PH is, it could play a large role in fish deaths. Do your fish appear to be gasping for breaths towards the end, any redness at the gills? (both indicators of low PH) Link to comment
ElmoC Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Did you add all those fish in a short period of time? Could be the tank couldn't handle the sudden bioload increase. Link to comment
MadReefer13 Posted September 30, 2014 Author Share Posted September 30, 2014 Perhaps allow your tank to chill without fish for a few months. It could be a parasite or ich and without fish hopefully whatever is causing your deaths will die off without a host. Hope you can get to the bottom of it, I've had my share of issues with fish and not coral when I switched to my larger current system. Just bad luck and poor practice of not doing a proper quarantine got me in trouble. Also, a lot of times low PH can cause extra stress on new fish. Check to ensure your PH is stable most reef fish can live happily in a PH range of 7.9 to 8.4 which is a pretty wide range so make sure you also acclimate slowly depending on what your LFS PH is, it could play a large role in fish deaths. Do your fish appear to be gasping for breaths towards the end, any redness at the gills? (both indicators of low PH) yes they are gasping forsure i noticed that and knew it wasent good no all added seprate Link to comment
ElmoC Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 When you say added separate, how much time between each fish? You need to give the tank time to adjust to new bioload before adding more. I have heard recommended time of up to 30 days, depending on the tank size and the type of fish added. Link to comment
MadReefer13 Posted September 30, 2014 Author Share Posted September 30, 2014 one wrasse was added awhile ago..the other wrasse and bleeny were added the sametime like a month after the first wrasse.the two wrasses both died two days apart the benny lasted about a week and a half later then passed waited few days then added the clown died today think two days only im done with fish till figgure it out..i hate seein a fish die in my care just like loosing a dog or anything ealse When you say added separate, how much time between each fish? You need to give the tank time to adjust to new bioload before adding more. I have heard recommended time of up to 30 days, depending on the tank size and the type of fish added. . Link to comment
tibbsy07 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Sounds to me like you introduced a disease with the wrasse/blenny combo. Your first wrasse lived for a month, then you added 2 fish and all of them started dying. Introduction of a new fish also resulted in its death. Sounds like disease. Link to comment
MadReefer13 Posted September 30, 2014 Author Share Posted September 30, 2014 Sounds to me like you introduced a disease with the wrasse/blenny combo. Your first wrasse lived for a month, then you added 2 fish and all of them started dying. Introduction of a new fish also resulted in its death. Sounds like disease. yea thinking so also a guy i know i bought the fish from told me three days later they were wild caught bigg nono right? Link to comment
tibbsy07 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Wild caught doesn't necessarily mean no-no, in this case it was that you got sick fish and didn't quarantine them before adding them to your display tank. You should wait 12 weeks at this point before adding any fish. They'll just get sick if you do. 12 weeks is on the long end, with most recommendations between 8 and 10 weeks. But 12 weeks guarantees that the fallow period is legit. It'll allow for any cysts or parasites to die off. DO NOT ADD A FISH TO YOUR TANK UNTIL AFTER DECEMBER 23rd. You may as well wait until January 1st. When you do decide to buy another fish, you should set up a quarantine tank. Google them and find out what size tank you'll need for the fish you want, etc. Every fish you buy should be quarantined for a couple of weeks before adding it to your display tank. Link to comment
MadReefer13 Posted September 30, 2014 Author Share Posted September 30, 2014 so inverts wont get it right? im just gonna leave the tank fishless for its life no more fish ever Wild caught doesn't necessarily mean no-no, in this case it was that you got sick fish and didn't quarantine them before adding them to your display tank. You should wait 12 weeks at this point before adding any fish. They'll just get sick if you do. 12 weeks is on the long end, with most recommendations between 8 and 10 weeks. But 12 weeks guarantees that the fallow period is legit. It'll allow for any cysts or parasites to die off. DO NOT ADD A FISH TO YOUR TANK UNTIL AFTER DECEMBER 23rd. You may as well wait until January 1st. When you do decide to buy another fish, you should set up a quarantine tank. Google them and find out what size tank you'll need for the fish you want, etc. Every fish you buy should be quarantined for a couple of weeks before adding it to your display tank. . Link to comment
tibbsy07 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 so inverts wont get it right? im just gonna leave the tank fishless for its life no more fish ever . Inverts will not get it, and you can absolutely have fish later, but you need to wait until the new year. Losing animals sucks, but in this hobby it happens. You just have to make sure you are taking the right precautions ahead of time so that you minimize the chance of their death. Link to comment
MadReefer13 Posted September 30, 2014 Author Share Posted September 30, 2014 Inverts will not get it, and you can absolutely have fish later, but you need to wait until the new year. Losing animals sucks, but in this hobby it happens. You just have to make sure you are taking the right precautions ahead of time so that you minimize the chance of their death. yes forsure. if i do add fish itll be atleast till the 1st the year probley go even longer give it no chance at all...is there anyway finding out what it is pestwise? dont think so but hey what do i know Link to comment
tibbsy07 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Not unless you have access to a lab. Too much trouble to try and figure it out, not to mention cost. Just keep that tank stable, good water conditions and let it fallow. It'll be safe in a few months. Link to comment
hey Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 There are some fish diseases fallow periods do not apply to and live in a tank indefinitely, uronema marinum is one. Unless the fishes died with open wounds within 48 hrs probably not that though. Link to comment
MadReefer13 Posted October 26, 2014 Author Share Posted October 26, 2014 so now that my tank is fishless it is being taking over by bug. any thoughts what that is never had my tank crawl around before Link to comment
xiaoxiy Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Are they little white bugs? If so, you might be experiencing a pod population bloom because there are no predators to eat them. Link to comment
MadReefer13 Posted October 26, 2014 Author Share Posted October 26, 2014 theres like three diffrent kinds some lil like grayesh ones and some bigger white ones Are they little white bugs? If so, you might be experiencing a pod population bloom because there are no predators to eat them. Link to comment
xiaoxiy Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Can you get pictures of them? Link to comment
MadReefer13 Posted October 26, 2014 Author Share Posted October 26, 2014 Can you get pictures of them? maybe most leave after lights on but two live in my temp gauge they look like tiny shrimp the two that are always there the never leave the temp gauge Link to comment
xiaoxiy Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 They're probably pods then. Link to comment
MadReefer13 Posted October 26, 2014 Author Share Posted October 26, 2014 can the mess with zoas for some damn reason my zoas wont open for life of me. i've tried everything moving my lights up and down nothing. they get hella long sometimes and just never open They're probably pods then. . Link to comment
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