Anemones

[Dr.Brain Coral]

As a lot of you know I am planning a ten gallon reef tank. I am already planning on a Rock Flower Anemone and a Tube anemone but what others are there? I am thinking of having alot of sand space for the Tube and Flower anemone but I dont know what others I can get. I am contemplating a small GBTA also.

[joy13]

Maxi mini anemones are very pretty and mine have stayed smaller than my rock anemones. I wouldn't suggest a bubble tip they can get big fast mine grew double in the 2 months I have had it. Condys seem to do a lot of walking from my experience. Ritteri should be expert only I got one sold to me as a condy. Carpet anemones get to big for that size tank. Sebae are very nice but read up on them before getting one they are another difficult one to keep.

 

Anemones of different types will sting each other.

[Dr.Brain Coral]

I like Maxi mini Carpets. I had looked into Condys but opted out since they seem to move a ton.

[AJ69]

LTA/BTA

Also, what type of lights will u b running?

[Dr.Brain Coral]

I think LTA get way to large and I think any BTA other than a Green Bubble Tip would also.

[hypostatic]

+1 on maxi minis

 

If I had more graceful nems or micro-minis I'd say get some of those lol

[Snow_Phoenix]

I vote mini-maxi carpet nems and rock flower nems. Tube anemones pack a vicious sting though - the one in my LFS killed a whole tank full of newly arrived yashas that happened to perch on its tentacles. All the other nems seem to get too large for a 10G - if you're deadset on getting a GBTA, then you'll end up getting a bigger setup to host it more comfortably, which will cost you more money in the long-run.

[Tamberav]

As a lot of you know I am planning a ten gallon reef tank. I am already planning on a Rock Flower Anemone and a Tube anemone but what others are there? I am thinking of having alot of sand space for the Tube and Flower anemone but I dont know what others I can get. I am contemplating a small GBTA also.

 

I would skip the tube nem. They grow large and will probably kill anything they touch in such a small tank. i wouldn't add a bubble tip unless you plan on upgrading soon. My small one is growing very quickly.

 

I have some colorful Majano's and they seem to reproduce reallly slow and stay put. You may want to consider those.

[Dr.Brain Coral]

The way I am setting up my rock any other corals and nems will be shielded from the Tube nems sting. I did read an article on advanced aquarist where he says that tube anemone don't have as bad of stings as people say. If need be I can Re-home him if he gets large. Okay no GBTA. Hypo I completely forgot about your Graceful anemones haha.

[joy13]

I have had my tube anemone for about 2 years I have on the side of my tank where it is comfortable without any corals around it. I have actually been stung by my one rock anemone and it hurts worse than any of the rest of the anemones I have. It is only one particular rock anemone I have 3. The anemone I had move around most was the condy followed by my tube anemone. When I upgraded the tube anemone found a place and hasn't moved. The other tank I found him on the powerhead one day then a rock the next, I would put him back on the sand and he would move again.

[Dr.Brain Coral]

Are you sure its a tube anemone? I dont think they can move very well. I think they lack the pedal disk like most nems.

[HVani]

The way I am setting up my rock any other corals and nems will be shielded from the Tube nems sting. I did read an article on advanced aquarist where he says that tube anemone don't have as bad of stings as people say. If need be I can Re-home him if he gets large. Okay no GBTA. Hypo I completely forgot about your Graceful anemones haha.

 

 

They pack a wallop. Mine have killed any coral near them and have badly stung a few fish. Most fish survive but the wounds are nasty.

[joy13]

I am sure it is a tube anemone. It just floated around the tank, never settling any one place. When I put him in my 60 cube he floated to the side and stayed then I put my corals in. He looks just like the top one http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2004/6/inverts . He was a pain at one point I was thinking about if he got in a pump no big loss.

[hypostatic]

Tube anemones pack a vicious sting though

I would skip the tube nem. They grow large and will probably kill anything they touch

They pack a wallop. Mine have killed any coral near them and have badly stung a few fish. Most fish survive but the wounds are nasty.

 

I don't know why these guys get such a bad rap. It might be because they're confused with other different species? Tube nems should have a weaker sting than MUSHROOMS.

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2004/6/inverts#section-2

 

From the article:

 

The Sting And Toxins Of Tube Anemones

The "extremely poisonous tentacles" description seems especially unwarranted, in fact, because there are now a couple of studies on the stinging cells of tube anemones in comparison to other species. One study examined the toxins present within the stinging cells of Aiptasia and compared those to the tube anemone Pachycerianthus torreyi; the authors found that the toxin of Aiptasia was much more potent and complex than that of the tube anemone (Phelan & Blanquet 1985). Another study examined the toxic effects of 11 species of anemone-like animals - true anemones, mushroom polyps and tube anemones - to compare the toxicity and effectiveness of the stinging cells of these animals (Cline & Wolowyk 1997). The researchers found that the toxins of all species tested except for those from the tube anemone Pachycerianthus fimbratus had potent effect on a variety of test vertebrates. Cline & Wolowyk (1997) were able to show that the nematocyst toxin of these animals varied in strength relative to the approximate size and activity level of their preferred prey. Thus, the specialist fish predator anemones Urticina lofotensis and U. piscivora had the strongest toxin of any species tested, and the toxicity declined through the list of true anemones and corallimorpharian (mushroom) corals, with the tube anemone being the least toxic of the entire group. In fact, the toxins of the specialist fish predators did not seem to be specific to just fish - tests using guinea pig, rat and dog cell cultures all resulted in massive cell death from the addition of tiny amounts of their toxin. In stark contrast to those results, the sting of the tube anemone P. fimbratus were not found to be lethal to any species in any test these researchers conducted (Cline & Wolowyk 1997). In fact, fish in this experiment showed no significant effect from the sting of the tube anemone! Hmm, that doesn't sound like a species that warrants a strong warning to me...

 

 

It just floated around the tank, never settling any one place.

 

I'm fairly certain tube anemones can't survive for long out of their tubes. They shouldn't "float around" either

[BulkRate]

From time to time Reef Gardner gets in so-called "mini-mini" carpet anemones that only grow to be about the size of a 50-cent piece. I imagine a rock with 3-4 different kinds would be spectacular, especially if they split and walk around a little.

[hypostatic]

I think there's like at least 3 different sizes/species of maxi-mini carpets:

 

The regular maxi-minis that grow around 6":

 

There's a medium size that I think is only red; I think it gets to about 2-3". I like calling it "medi-mini":

 

The smallest gets about 1.5" max before splitting. I reffer to them as "micro-minis". Here's one of mine:

[HVani]

I don't know why these guys get such a bad rap. It might be because they're confused with other different species? Tube nems should have a weaker sting than MUSHROOMS.

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2004/6/inverts#section-2'>http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2004/6/inverts#section-2

 

From the article:

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm fairly certain tube anemones can't survive for long out of their tubes. They shouldn't "float around" either

 

I'm just going on personal experience. I have seen the wounds tube anemones leave and no coral lives with in the reach of the tubes anemones I have. The fish in the tank avoid them. I've seen my shrimp jump when he touches them. He doesn't act like that for mushrooms, maxi minis or rock flower anemones

 

Also one of my tubes dropped his tube and he's been fine for months. I put him in some PVC with sand and he's doing great. These guys can move they just sent very good at it. Not sure one could get caught in a power head though. They can't really climb.

[CatfishSoupFTW]

I have had a RBTA for a while now in my 10 gallon. It is growing quickly, and it took a a week plus before it found its go to spot. so far so good.

 

yes it is growing quick, but thats means two things... A, splitting, or B fragging which equals moola. So i dig. Got a hammer head, zoas , xenias, blastos and no harm. some other coals as well and so far so good. I cant quote on the long run, but I wanted to experiment. My two clowns love it once they discovered it about 2 weeks after.

 

I have heard maxi minis are nice. that red one is dope, but I havent seen them in person.

 

the condy was my next thought, but im glad i didnt after doing some research, they get bad rep on messing stuff up. I feed my corals reefroids, and i have seen good growth. Recently added a pls50 skimmer. Working on a minor upgrade on the tank but yup! thats my story.

[Tamberav]

It was actually that article that made me try one but my experience with it was much different from that article. There are several species of tube nem's though so who knows.

 

I think they would do great in a larger tank where it can grow and other animals can stay away from it but I personally would not put one in a 10 gallon.

 

 

I don't know why these guys get such a bad rap. It might be because they're confused with other different species? Tube nems should have a weaker sting than MUSHROOMS.

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2004/6/inverts#section-2

[Shaggy2061]

I think there's like at least 3 different sizes/species of maxi-mini carpets:

 

The regular maxi-minis that grow around 6":

 

There's a medium size that I think is only red; I think it gets to about 2-3". I like calling it "medi-mini":

 

The smallest gets about 1.5" max before splitting. I reffer to them as "micro-minis". Here's one of mine:

 

 

Where do you get those Micro Minis all i can ever find in the max i want the true minis that do not get bigger then 2 inches?

[joy13]

This was sold to me as a tube anemone they name they put on the receipt Ceriathus he actually floated around the tank in the current. I am pretty sure that is what I got

 

 

 

I don't know why these guys get such a bad rap. It might be because they're confused with other different species? Tube nems should have a weaker sting than MUSHROOMS.

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2004/6/inverts#section-2

 

From the article:

 

 

 

 

I'm fairly certain tube anemones can't survive for long out of their tubes. They shouldn't "float around" either

This is mine crappy phone pic sold to me as a Ceriathus. It didn't move on its own just by the current from what I saw. Mine didn't lose his full tube but broke part of it off when it was on the koralia.

[hypostatic]

It was actually that article that made me try one but my experience with it was much different from that article. There are several species of tube nem's though so who knows.

 

Yeah, there's so many species that are probably undescribed, I guess it shouldn't be surprising that you'll find some that don't act the way they should.

 

Where do you get those Micro Minis all i can ever find in the max i want the true minis that do not get bigger then 2 inches?

 

Mine I got from another reefer through a trade. I think they pop up here and there mostly as hitchhikers, but people end up thinking they're pests, or majanos, or shrooms

[Dr.Brain Coral]

Thanks for all the help every body. I like that red maxi mini nem. Are there any other sand dwelling Nems?

[Dr.Brain Coral]

Do any of you Know about Flat zebra anemones?

[Dr.Brain Coral]

No one has any info on them?