darkdancer333 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Just a little concerned about my levels rising. I have 14gal bio-cube which tomorrow will complete its second week of cycling. I have live rock an sand. Diatoms have taken over the tank . Yesterstay I purchased 2 turbo snails to help with the process. I have had 2 hermit crabs which have been doing well. These guys are 1 week in the tank Today I tested my nitrate an nitrite an these were the levels I use the redsea test kit Nitrate was between 5-10 Nitrite was 0.2 Yesterday I rearranged the rock because they were to close to the filtration vents. The tank was dirty as hell lots of stuff floating around. It's clear today but the snails are just sitting in one spot. The crabs are all over the place as usual. I thought the snails had died but I laid them on their side an saw movement. I hope these guys are ok.. Also last week I saw an ampipod but havent seen since. I saw its shell of skin floating around few days back... Link to comment
xiaoxiy Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 What's your ammonia at? It's completely normal to see nitrate increase, at least until you build up enough microbes to process it (i.e anaerobic bacteria or algae). Link to comment
darkdancer333 Posted April 11, 2014 Author Share Posted April 11, 2014 What's your ammonia at? It's completely normal to see nitrate increase, at least until you build up enough microbes to process it (i.e anaerobic bacteria or algae). I haven't tested ammonia. Ive done ak, mg, ca those are all good. The owner of the Salt water store said ammonia not needed. So I never purchased test kit I was concerned about the snails the haven't moved all morning Link to comment
natalia_la_loca Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Snails rest and sit around from time to time. Just keep an eye on them, they're probably fine. Amphipods are like cockroaches, for every one you see, there's 100 you don't... I would give those hermits a little food now and then if I were you, at least until you get some fish in there. Link to comment
xiaoxiy Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 I haven't tested ammonia. Ive done ak, mg, ca those are all good. The owner of the Salt water store said ammonia not needed. So I never purchased test kit I was concerned about the snails the haven't moved all morning Honestly, I think during a cycle, ammonia test kits are more important than nitrites, especially since nitrites are nearly harmless in saltwater tanks. But back to you rising nitrate issue, don't fret too much about it. Rising nitrates are a part of every cycle. Link to comment
darkdancer333 Posted April 11, 2014 Author Share Posted April 11, 2014 Honestly, I think during a cycle, ammonia test kits are more important than nitrites, especially since nitrites are nearly harmless in saltwater tanks. But back to you rising nitrate issue, don't fret too much about it. Rising nitrates are a part of every cycle. Should I do a 30% water change or let it run its course Link to comment
markalot Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Water changes never hurt. So how are you going to tell when all the bacteria is set up and the tank is stable enough for your first fish? Link to comment
xiaoxiy Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Should I do a 30% water change or let it run its course A water change wouldn't hurt (Like mark wrote), but you don't have to do a water change with 5-10 nitrates. I also echo Mark's concerns on how you will know when your cycle is complete without an ammonia test it. Link to comment
darkdancer333 Posted April 11, 2014 Author Share Posted April 11, 2014 A water change wouldn't hurt (Like mark wrote), but you don't have to do a water change with 5-10 nitrates. I also echo Mark's concerns on how you will know when your cycle is complete without an ammonia test it. Im just going by what the owner of the coral reef store told me. I can buy ammonia kit today an test.. He said with my last test ammonia excluded I could start adding a coral or 2 I wanted to wait until the diatoms subsided. Water changes never hurt. So how are you going to tell when all the bacteria is set up and the tank is stable enough for your first fish? I'll get kit today I been told wasn't needed for my tank.. Also stupid ? but how do you know when a snail is dead?? Link to comment
xiaoxiy Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Im just going by what the owner of the coral reef store told me. I can buy ammonia kit today an test.. He said with my last test ammonia excluded I could start adding a coral or 2 I wanted to wait until the diatoms subsided. I'll get kit today I been told wasn't needed for my tank.. Also stupid ? but how do you know when a snail is dead?? I'd suggest getting an el-cheapo ammonia kit just so you can verify that you have 0 ammonia. You might want to wait until your nitrites also hit 0 before adding any corals and fish though. Link to comment
darkdancer333 Posted April 11, 2014 Author Share Posted April 11, 2014 I'd suggest getting an el-cheapo ammonia kit just so you can verify that you have 0 ammonia. You might want to wait until your nitrites also hit 0 before adding any corals and fish though. yes I am in no hurry now I need to see what the snails do before I proceed any further Link to comment
xiaoxiy Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 yes I am in no hurry now I need to see what the snails do before I proceed any further Great! Also, be wary of LFS advice. Sometimes they give good advice, other times not so much. Link to comment
darkdancer333 Posted April 11, 2014 Author Share Posted April 11, 2014 Great! Also, be wary of LFS advice. Sometimes they give good advice, other times not so much. how you know when a snail is dead Link to comment
xiaoxiy Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 how you know when a snail is dead Take it out and smell it. If it smells awful, it's dead. Link to comment
darkdancer333 Posted April 11, 2014 Author Share Posted April 11, 2014 Take it out and smell it. If it smells awful, it's dead. KK thx Link to comment
darkdancer333 Posted April 12, 2014 Author Share Posted April 12, 2014 Take it out and smell it. If it smells awful, it's dead. Just got home they havent moved all day Onne of the turbos is halfway open and the other is closed shut.The little round shell. The one thats open is very loose he seems dead but there is no smell Link to comment
AntiNano Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 let your nitrate runs its course and it will come down to zero. Then do a large water change 50-75% then gradually add livestocs.m you do not have any corals that consumming your alk. therefore, you do not have to tst alk or cal. Link to comment
SantaMonica Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Sounds like a normal nitrate increase. Link to comment
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