Chris! Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share Posted September 17, 2014 try it some time, I have a ton of sand dwellers you would be surprised what comes out I've completely changed sand during up/down grades and never been to bad I feed fairly heavy but I stagger it out through the day (2-4x) so theres never a ton that really goes in at one time to minimize the waste... and I run skimmers for like 3-4 times the volume Link to comment
hey Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Thought stirring the sand released naughty toxins guess was informed incorrectly I keep a half inch sand bed, nothing anaerobic going on there. Now if it were a DSB, definitely a bad idea. I've completely changed sand during up/down grades and never been to bad I feed fairly heavy but I stagger it out through the day (2-4x) so theres never a ton that really goes in at one time to minimize the waste... and I run skimmers for like 3-4 times the volume Yeh the overpowered skimmer is important lol. Im running a skimz 181 and its rated more for the 90-120 range for normal use. Link to comment
jedimasterben Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I've completely changed sand during up/down grades and never been to bad Anytime I do a 'deep cleaning', I stir up and siphon my entire sandbed, and if the rocks are easily moved, I'll get what is under them, as well, and I've never had any kind of issue doing that. The 'anaerobic buildup' of things like hydrogen sulfide, etc, are mostly myth, especially in sandbeds less than a couple of inches deep. I feed fairly heavy but I stagger it out through the day (2-4x) so theres never a ton that really goes in at one time to minimize the waste... and I run skimmers for like 3-4 times the volume The vast majority of food that fish take in is put right back out as waste, they are terribly inefficient at processing what they eat, especially planktivores that have no real stomach, so it's best to just assume 100% of what you put in is going to 'rot' no matter what. Link to comment
hey Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Anytime I do a 'deep cleaning', I stir up and siphon my entire sandbed, and if the rocks are easily moved, I'll get what is under them, as well, and I've never had any kind of issue doing that. The 'anaerobic buildup' of things like hydrogen sulfide, etc, are mostly myth, especially in sandbeds less than a couple of inches deep. The vast majority of food that fish take in is put right back out as waste, they are terribly inefficient at processing what they eat, especially planktivores that have no real stomach, so it's best to just assume 100% of what you put in is going to 'rot' no matter what. was it chad that said he never fed the corals directly he just stirred up detritus on a regular basis in his old bowfront? Either way I feel like lots of unused nutrients get recycled that way. Link to comment
Chris! Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 I keep a half inch sand bed, nothing anaerobic going on there. Now if it were a DSB, definitely a bad idea. Same here I run around an inch, just enough to come up to the top of the bottom trim.... Yeh the overpowered skimmer is important lol. Im running a skimz 181 and its rated more for the 90-120 range for normal use. Definitely, especially with SPS if you like to feed. Anytime I do a 'deep cleaning', I stir up and siphon my entire sandbed, and if the rocks are easily moved, I'll get what is under them, as well, and I've never had any kind of issue doing that. Your crazy, that sounds too much like work LOL. Whenever I'd do anything to the sand it would just blow the sand around, so I stopped doing it. If it works for you to do all that tho more power to ya man just assume 100% of what you put in is going to 'rot' no matter what. Or get sucked out with the skimmer, or become coral/ invert food lol Link to comment
Chris! Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 Spent another 10 minutes playing with rocks..... wife approved.... but will likely make a few changes or completely redo it 100 times before the tank gets here lol Link to comment
jack1978 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Spent another 10 minutes playing with rocks..... wife approved.... but will likely make a few changes or completely redo it 100 times before the tank gets here lol I like the structure to the right....the one on the left looks like a heart Link to comment
Chris! Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 I like the structure to the right.... Me too..... In the top pic you can see the base in the back between the 2 front areas, it is open under both sides of that rock until it meets the structure on the front left of that section to give a nice open look/ plenty of swimming space/ shaded overhang, while offering a nice place for coral It is hard to capture the depth of this thing but it is kinda crazy in person. The 3 structures on the left side all look like a jumbled mess in the pics but they actually look pretty good in person. I may get rid of the middle/ front stucture on the left side and pull the island in the actual middle of the back area forward like 6" as I would still like to open it up a little more.... Link to comment
Chris! Posted September 27, 2014 Author Share Posted September 27, 2014 I'm just gonna become an LPS guy..... Link to comment
Sk8n Reefer Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I'm just gonna become an LPS guy..... Nice-Bringing that one home? Link to comment
Chris! Posted September 27, 2014 Author Share Posted September 27, 2014 Nice-Bringing that one home? Oh yeah! Its already here, just waiting for its new home.... Its actually one of 3 reallllly nice lobos I recently picked up Link to comment
HM3105 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Oh yeah! Its already here, just waiting for its new home.... Its actually one of 3 reallllly nice lobos I recently picked up Is the eggcrate part of the project? I feel like this is sneak peek... Link to comment
basser1 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I'm just gonna become an LPS guy..... Nice!!! That will make Lawnman very happy!! Link to comment
Chris! Posted September 27, 2014 Author Share Posted September 27, 2014 Is the eggcrate part of the project? I feel like this is sneak peek... Yes it most certainly is..... Hopefully in about 2 weeks I will be able to fully take the wraps off the project..... So far everything has been going really good Nice!!! That will make Lawnman very happy!! Thank you! It only took me about 50 tries to get that pic He'll have to come look before it can make him happy LOL Link to comment
Chris! Posted September 27, 2014 Author Share Posted September 27, 2014 I'm having a hard time capturing the true color on this one still but what the heck..... Link to comment
Chris! Posted September 27, 2014 Author Share Posted September 27, 2014 Looking good man! Thanks bud Link to comment
Lawnman Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 LPS I am subscribed now Any word or teasers on the new tank? Mine is at the local Fedex hub . Link to comment
Chris! Posted September 27, 2014 Author Share Posted September 27, 2014 LPS I am subscribed now I thought you might like that Any word or teasers on the new tank? Mine is at the local Fedex hub . Nice, go pick it up!! lol No word yet, honestly I am hoping a couple more weeks still I need to get the oldest kids bedroom done (started tonight) and atleast the bathroom done before I can redo the livingroom and build the stand... that I still need to design lol Link to comment
Chris! Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 I can't capture this beast with the nikon for nothin, but the phone is getting pretty close color wise but the orange is still a bit bolder!!! Link to comment
Lawnman Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I can't capture this beast with the nikon for nothin, but the phone is getting pretty close color wise but the orange is still a bit bolder!!! You have a fever posting all this LPS ? Link to comment
Chris! Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 You have a fever posting all this LPS ? Never really been big on LPS until lately, you guys must be wearin off on me cuz I am liking them quite a bit right now. Even got a couple nice z/p's hangin around waiting for their photo session when they get out of QT.... I aint down with bein dirty Link to comment
Chris! Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 Zoas and palys!! Shhhh..... I got the real deal LOL Link to comment
kguske2 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Shhhh..... I got the real deal LOL Welcome to the dark side there's no turning back now Link to comment
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