Jump to content


Photo

easy, inexpensive DIY dosing pump


  • Please log in to reply
91 replies to this topic

#51
glennr1978

glennr1978

    one proud dad!

  • Members
  • 11,896 posts
  • Joined 30 Nov 2006

Ahh Good idea!

Basically, I can run 3 aqualifters one for Cal and the other 2 for ALK and MAG :) I have an aqua controller and could run the pumps with that.

your a genius!

PS
I also been using these aqualifter pumps for quite some time for top-off and they work flawlessly.


make sure you use either outlet #4, or #8 (might want to double check that, but i'm pretty sure those are the ones that are recommended for low wattage pumps, etc.) if you use your controller. if not you may have issues with the controller not switching the aqualifters off. i've thought about using my acjr instead of the little wal mart timer to simplify my set up.

#52
Kevin McG

Kevin McG

    Nano Reefer

  • Members
  • 37 posts
  • Joined 10 Jan 2008
  • Nashua, NH

make sure you use either outlet #4, or #8 (might want to double check that, but i'm pretty sure those are the ones that are recommended for low wattage pumps, etc.) if you use your controller. if not you may have issues with the controller not switching the aqualifters off. i've thought about using my acjr instead of the little wal mart timer to simplify my set up.


Hmm.... interesting I never knew that. I actually had an issue when I had the aqualifter plugged into outlet #5(DC8) for my auto top off and always wondered why.

Thanks for the info :)

#53
glennr1978

glennr1978

    one proud dad!

  • Members
  • 11,896 posts
  • Joined 30 Nov 2006

Hmm.... interesting I never knew that. I actually had an issue when I had the aqualifter plugged into outlet #5(DC8) for my auto top off and always wondered why.

Thanks for the info :)



no problem. seriously, double check and make sure that it is #4 and #8. i could be wrong, but i think those are the right ones.

#54
Kevin McG

Kevin McG

    Nano Reefer

  • Members
  • 37 posts
  • Joined 10 Jan 2008
  • Nashua, NH

no problem. seriously, double check and make sure that it is #4 and #8. i could be wrong, but i think those are the right ones.


Any idea where I would find that info?

#55
glennr1978

glennr1978

    one proud dad!

  • Members
  • 11,896 posts
  • Joined 30 Nov 2006

Any idea where I would find that info?


google?

#56
Kevin McG

Kevin McG

    Nano Reefer

  • Members
  • 37 posts
  • Joined 10 Jan 2008
  • Nashua, NH

google?


LOL
Google top search shows this thread
http://www.google.co...amp;btnG=Search

#57
Kevin McG

Kevin McG

    Nano Reefer

  • Members
  • 37 posts
  • Joined 10 Jan 2008
  • Nashua, NH
Found a bunch and it appears #4 & #8 are for low wattage and you mentioned. I will be switching my auto top off into one of those as soon as I get home, it is in #5 now :(

#58
dtfleming

dtfleming

    Hookers and blow

  • Members
  • 6,023 posts
  • Joined 15 Apr 2007
go to neptunes website or look at hour DC8 manual.



blog


in other words, if you hear hoofbeats, think horses and not zebras.


#59
darkside212

darkside212

    Nano Reefer

  • Members
  • 138 posts
  • Joined 02 Apr 2008
  • Milwaukee WI
here's mine..

I don't have a sump so I made a holder for the lifter out of scrap acrylic....the tube doesn't touch the water so no check valve is needed

Attached Thumbnails

  • P1110772.JPG

Edited by darkside212, 14 May 2009 - 07:25 PM.


#60
glennr1978

glennr1978

    one proud dad!

  • Members
  • 11,896 posts
  • Joined 30 Nov 2006

here's mine..

I don't have a sump so I made a holder for the lifter out of scrap acrylic....the tube doesn't touch the water so no check valve is needed



How is it working out for you so far?

#61
darkside212

darkside212

    Nano Reefer

  • Members
  • 138 posts
  • Joined 02 Apr 2008
  • Milwaukee WI

How is it working out for you so far?



great, but instead of using a valve I changed the solution concentration. I have it about half the concentration of the recommendation by brs.

#62
glennr1978

glennr1978

    one proud dad!

  • Members
  • 11,896 posts
  • Joined 30 Nov 2006

great, but instead of using a valve I changed the solution concentration. I have it about half the concentration of the recommendation by brs.



i thought about doing the same thing, but I'd have to dillute my 2 part quite a bit to get it right. Maybe I should go ahead and switch to the BRS stuff....

#63
darkside212

darkside212

    Nano Reefer

  • Members
  • 138 posts
  • Joined 02 Apr 2008
  • Milwaukee WI

i thought about doing the same thing, but I'd have to dillute my 2 part quite a bit to get it right. Maybe I should go ahead and switch to the BRS stuff....



um just bake baking soda in the oven for an hour at 300f
then buy a 20-50lb bag of calcium chloride...

same as BRS at about 1/10 the price

#64
cbachman

cbachman

    Nano Reefer

  • Members
  • 224 posts
  • Joined 03 Aug 2008
  • Omaha,NE
very cool. very simple. very brilliant.

#65
apt220

apt220

    Nano Reefer

  • Members
  • 11 posts
  • Joined 26 May 2009
  • Richmond, VA
I'm glad to see someone tried this, I'll be giving it a go pretty soon.
Abram

#66
wesleytf

wesleytf

    Nano Reefer

  • Members
  • 226 posts
  • Joined 03 Dec 2007

I'm glad to see someone tried this, I'll be giving it a go pretty soon.

how many mLs does it put out in a minute? I need to automate my two-part and this seems like a cheap way to do it if I can get the doses just right...

#67
apt220

apt220

    Nano Reefer

  • Members
  • 11 posts
  • Joined 26 May 2009
  • Richmond, VA

how many mLs does it put out in a minute? I need to automate my two-part and this seems like a cheap way to do it if I can get the doses just right...


I believe he tweaked the little valve to the tune of 5mL/min. I have some needle valves laying around so I'm hoping to have an easier time getting it to about that. Even if one was to buy these valves, it would be still far less than those peristaltic pumps. I'm out of town right now, but I'll post again to let you know how the needle valves work.

http://www.usplastic.....duct_id=15616
Abram

#68
apt220

apt220

    Nano Reefer

  • Members
  • 11 posts
  • Joined 26 May 2009
  • Richmond, VA
Glenn are you finding that it pumps less when the container is almost empty, since the pump technically has to "lift" the solution farther?

Thanks

Edited by apt220, 28 May 2009 - 11:37 AM.

Abram

#69
glennr1978

glennr1978

    one proud dad!

  • Members
  • 11,896 posts
  • Joined 30 Nov 2006

Glenn are you finding that it pumps less when the container is almost empty, since the pump technically has to "lift" the solution farther?

Thanks



i thought about that when i first set up the pump so i tested it with the container almost empty, and then again with it completely full. it didn't make any difference either way.

btw, i typically only keep enough solution in the reservoirs to last ~4 days. that way if the system were to fail and the pump stayed on continuosly it wouldn't be as likely to crash my tank. i keep my tank at 7-8 dkh (because i dose vodka) so even under the worst circumstances my tank could only rise to ~12 dkh. granted, that much of a spike in a short period of time would probably cause some problems, but nothing catastrophic, i would hope.

#70
smarcus3

smarcus3

    Nano Reefer

  • Members
  • 1,014 posts
  • Joined 21 Sep 2008
i got to try this too. Im going to see if my LFS sells an aqua lifter. I have one that I use for my DIY ATO and love it.

#71
wesleytf

wesleytf

    Nano Reefer

  • Members
  • 226 posts
  • Joined 03 Dec 2007
I put mine together today--started to anyway. I guess my ACjr for this tank has the old DC8, with NO outlets that will turn on/off the aqualifter(4 and 8 get stuck on when aqualifter is plugged in, just using manual mode), so tomorrow I'll be off to pickup some splitters and light bulbs to add a bit of extra draw to each plug. I also couldn't calibrate mine exactly--got one at 6 mL/min and one at 4mL/min, so at least they share a lot of multiples. I haven't started mine yet, but do you find that it's siphoning back when it clicks off, and do you account for that somehow? I tend to hate putting any faith into check valves, but if I have to, I suppose I could pick up a couple of those, too...

#72
wesleytf

wesleytf

    Nano Reefer

  • Members
  • 226 posts
  • Joined 03 Dec 2007

I put mine together today--started to anyway. I guess my ACjr for this tank has the old DC8, with NO outlets that will turn on/off the aqualifter(4 and 8 get stuck on when aqualifter is plugged in, just using manual mode), so tomorrow I'll be off to pickup some splitters and light bulbs to add a bit of extra draw to each plug. I also couldn't calibrate mine exactly--got one at 6 mL/min and one at 4mL/min, so at least they share a lot of multiples. I haven't started mine yet, but do you find that it's siphoning back when it clicks off, and do you account for that somehow? I tend to hate putting any faith into check valves, but if I have to, I suppose I could pick up a couple of those, too...

Just made it through my first gallon a few days ago. Calibration isn't perfect--I had to adjust minutes so that the amounts being used match, but it's working well so far (knocks on wood).

#73
glennr1978

glennr1978

    one proud dad!

  • Members
  • 11,896 posts
  • Joined 30 Nov 2006

I put mine together today--started to anyway. I guess my ACjr for this tank has the old DC8, with NO outlets that will turn on/off the aqualifter(4 and 8 get stuck on when aqualifter is plugged in, just using manual mode), so tomorrow I'll be off to pickup some splitters and light bulbs to add a bit of extra draw to each plug. I also couldn't calibrate mine exactly--got one at 6 mL/min and one at 4mL/min, so at least they share a lot of multiples. I haven't started mine yet, but do you find that it's siphoning back when it clicks off, and do you account for that somehow? I tend to hate putting any faith into check valves, but if I have to, I suppose I could pick up a couple of those, too...



I just put the end of the tube up higher than the reservoir. that way creating a siphon is impossible.

#74
wesleytf

wesleytf

    Nano Reefer

  • Members
  • 226 posts
  • Joined 03 Dec 2007
well, unless the level is the same as in the holding containers, I've found that it will siphon to some small degree--either forward or backward. I've minimized the importance of this by trying to do all the dosing in one or two intervals, so that the first mL or whatever isn't really that big of a deal.

I just put the end of the tube up higher than the reservoir. that way creating a siphon is impossible.



#75
hooligan_78

hooligan_78

    The sign in the road says we're going nowhere

  • Members
  • 1,848 posts
  • Joined 12 Jul 2007
  • Omaha, Ne
Dumb question:

Glenn, how did you calculate your Cal/Alk usage for your tank?

The 20H Getting Torn Down For The Move!!!

My 40 Breeder, a.k.a., the Bank Breaker

My Clownfish Breeding Attempt


Not QTing is like banging whores raw dog. Eventually, you'll catch something.