Dood thats sweet. I'm gonna do one!! I live like 30min from Puget Sound so collecting stuff would be a breeze.

i was at the georgia aquarium a week and a half ago...

lol

(shark tank was cool though)

update photos please

Well, no livestock yet. I'll see if I can get an FTS up so you can all admire my wonderful rockwork.

just be sure you're licensed. there are some steep fines for collecting illegally, and they do patrol the puget pretty well, from what i've read on RC.

any problems with condensation?

i was just thinking that^^

Yeah there was this temperate water tank at mystic aquarium in connecticuit, and I had to wipe off the condensation just to see inside.

But judging by the temperature of the glass, the water felt REALLY cold.
Colder than 60 degree range...

Hmm, one of my favorite public aquariums... when were you there? They just remodeled the enitre facility about a year and a half ago, moved over to acrylic for all display fronts. Their coldwater tank is kept at 50 degrees and features life from LIS north to Bar Harbor.

I'm not having any condensation issues, for two reasons - one, the entire tank is insulated, with .5" acrylic on the front; the second reason is that relative humidity in Las Vegas hovers around 15% year-round; even with two open-top tanks in the room, there still isn't enough humidity to condense on the surfaces. heck, cold glasses don't even get condensation here, even in the middle of summer.

Yeah I was there labor day weekend.
They had this shallow coldwater tidepool thing with anemones and hermits and what not. The tank Im talkin about was more of an in-wall display, and alot smaller... I dont even remember what was init... may like a few schooling fish? small herring or something? I'm not exactly sure if it was glass, but water can condense on acrylic, right?

Mystic had alot of cool SW And FW setups alike. The giant octopus particularly caught my attention... I just thought it was so cool to just see it in the corner with its eyes closed, controlling all eight tenticles independently, probing multiple rocks/crevices at once...
Really made me think about cephalapods and the level at which their preliminary "consciousness" operates at.

All you need is a fishing license. No one cares if you take stuff off the beach or from tidepools, I'm out there all the time. Plus my grandparents have a place on the water with tidepools so I could just collect from there.

Well, if you do collect stuff, send some my way.

I'm going over to my grandparents for thanksgiving. In the tidepools there are shrimp, urchins, oysters, clams, macro algae, snails, hermit crabs, decorator crabs, opelescent nudibranchs, anemones, etc. How desparate are you for livestock $$

i'm not saying you're not right, but i swear i've read on a few threads on RC that to collect anemones and other inverts in the puget and other areas in washington/oregon, you needed a collection license. i'll see if i can't find those threads.

jeremai, more pics man!!

EDIT: I stand corrected. It's the California coast that's difficult to get permits for. Oregon and Washington allow collection anywhere as long as you are not in a reserve. been quite a while since i'd read those threads... i'll keep mah mouth shut until i research next time.

Hey no prob. Those Cali folks have it tough down there

Ok, I do plan on stocking this thing, I swear - I should have my first shipment in this week.

Suuuuuuure .

we're waiting!
lol
c'mon im dieing to see this tank get stocked

Tremble with fear, naysayers!

Got the first shpment in, everything is still settling in. I'm going to have a bit of a time with identification, I think, but I enjoy that part.

Anyway, a quick but dirty FTS - I'll get better shots once everything settles down.

Very interesting. What does the Sea Star eat? I would have thought that it ate organic film.

I have no idea - but there is no organic film perse in temperate reefs. I'm guessing it eats meaty foods, like everything else. This is going to be one dirty tank.

Nice Jere! Can't wait to see everything settled in.

You suck, I hate you!
everyone else always gets the cool stuff

lol but seriously VERY cool looking.. i cant wait for everything to settle in...
but IMO the star and those hermits look mighty cramped, if you catch my drift

Yeah, it was basically a grab bag - I send the guy money, he sends me whatever he wants; I think he underestimated how small a 10g is, hehe. I think I've convinced a reefing friend of mine to set up a 60g temperate tank, so we'll see how that goes.

There are four anemones - maybe a fifth, I have no idea what the brown thing in the middle is yet, but it moves like an anemone. Six or seven barnacles, also MUCH larger than the tropical variety I'm used to. Some macro, a few tiny brittle stars, a small crab (maybe 1") and a few other unidentified creepies. Good times.

The barnacles are freaking me out - it's like the rocks are moving, hehe. Speaking of which, am I the only one who didn't know that barnacles are arthropods? I had always thought they were mollusks for some reason...

looks cool! but cramped!

where are you getting these grab packs and such?

what temperature is your tank being held at?

thanks

The livestock is coming from a guy out of Puget Sound I tracked down on a Yahoo! group.

It will be cramped, but that is easier to do in a temperate tank than a tropical one; no chemical warfare, higher oxygenation levels, more forgiving livestock.

I have the temp at 56F.

Hello all, very cool project. Just thought I'd share a pic of a strawberry anemone I saw while diving in a reserve in norcal called girstle cove. It was full of them! This guy was like AT LEAST 9" across. Cant wait to see how big your's gets.

jeremai, isn't 56 a little low? i thought temperate tanks were generally run around 60.

are you going to get any fish?

lookin awesome man... i think you'll be fine with the livestock... cold water can definitely handle more density/bioload from what i've read.

Can't wait for the pics

looks GREAT!

what are you on/off intervals for the chiller?

Look svveet mang.

That being said, I think you could use some more rock.

VERY cool! (no pun intended) It's nice to see something a little different! Good luck with everything.

Thanks for the photo, surferdan!

Charlie97L, the guy who sent me the stuff keeps his tank at 56, and the water temp in Puget Sound where the livestock comes from is usually in the 40s. The only places I know where stuff lives in the 60s is Southern California and off the Australian Coast. Since I don't have anything from either, the lower temp works well. Perhaps a gruint sculpin later on, maybe a catalina goby to see how it does at a lower temperature - but with all the anemones I'm planning, there won't be much swimming room.

Adin, the chiller comes on for about five minutes, every twenty minutes or so. The room is at 82 because of my other tanks, so it's trying to keep a 25 degree pull-down.

I Take Pictures, I'm working on getting some more rock; they guy is sending the anemones attached to rocks, so I want to make sure I have room for everything.

Ok, some better shots. I haven't even bothered to narrow down the species for the anemones - but there are two types of Urticina and one Metridium. The last photo is a mystery - I had thought it to be a macroalgae, but now I'm leaning toward a bryozoan of some sort.

Urticina felina (left), Urticina capricornis (right):


Urticina felina:


Metridium spp. (possibly M. senile):


Bryozoan; won't get it any more succinct than that:

oh wow.... i LOVE the two white ones

Alright, sounds awesome. This tank is gonna be something really different when its all finished.

Is that some type of anemone shrimp on the second nem pic?

Nope. The tentacles are super sticky; that one picked up some sand particles.

you're still using the 32watt retro? do these guys need as high of lighting as reef anems?

They are completely non-photosynthetic, no lighting required.

Scallop has gone to the little reef in the sky.

A big, scaly red blob turned out to be a colony of hydroids that just started to 'bloom' - I'll get some photos when they're less shy. Anyone know anything about the biology of hydroids?

The red anemone looks like a snake lock anemone. They spit babies out there mouth if im not mistaken. This tank rocks man,my local public aquarium has the sickest cold water displays and ive always wanted to try one out.A few places up the coast here you could get anemones right of the pillars of the docks.

Cant wait to see this tank develope.

Thanks. I updated my photo post above with the scientific names.

I just got done feeding some hydroids in a bio lab actually.. Interesting little things.

nice tank

wtf?

AWESOME!!^^

looks like the end of a sea apple

Pops out of that scaley red bump at the center of my FTS. Fully open, it's about a half inch tall. No idea what it is.

Haha that is so awesome..