I agree this should be a sticky. And because it is the "ultimate nano fish guide". I thought maybe you could also add what food's to buy for these nano fish. And how often per day or week you feed them. In order to keep them healthy.

agreed!!!!!!!!!!

the food would require some work, but that would cancel out all of the questions about what should i feed this, or what should i feed that. great idea.

Bump this is a great fast guide
Please move the 6, 4, 8 line Wrasses to 20g though please most recomed 30+
More info on Flame Hawk would help
I agree neon gobies and gold ones too mabye be added under 1g tanks even though I think that tank needs alot of upkeep or attacked to a larger tank for better water quality/stabiblity.

Great guide you must be bored.
Your fish guide and SHs DIY guide need to be stickys for sure. I Vote

Just so you know, you called a yasha haze goby a yasha hasha goby

Yasha Hashe

Link

=0 HE FORGOT THE YASHA....OMG OMG..im depressed =(


did he forget prawn/randalli goby

Agreed, this is a great guide and very helpful.
stocking is always a controversial issue. the key is IMO is there enough physical room for the fish and the skill and experience of the aquarist.

The 1" per X gallons is a a decent guideline but so many variables can alter it.

Also I think you have every right to protect your work.

Thanks again, and sticky this thing.

IMO its 1 fish per 5 gallons if he doesnt exceed 3.5 inches then it is plus 1 gallons per inch there after....

dwarf seahorses
H zosterae


1 - 5 gallons, pair per gallon.

captive raised is preferred since they won't carry parasites. live feeding of baby brine / mysis / copepods needed.

expert only, but doable in a small tank. no tankmates except for very small hermits and snails.

^^WTF? he didn't miss the Yasha Hashe goby......read the post before mine to understand.

Wow, I disapear for a few days and come back to find this.

Thanks for all the compliments.

Neon gobies were actually listed in the second part of the guide, but somehow I missed those while doing the first part. I will fix it.

When I have some more time I will go thru my other big fish book and see if there is anything else I missed.

I will add the fish others suggested over the next few days/weeks as soon as I have some free time.

Fish food? No problem. When I have time I would be glad to add suggestions.

One brief comment on inch per gallon rules... They are silly and missleading. No different than suggesting "watts per gallon". Perhaps a place to start, but ultimatley missleading and inaccurate. A 2" dwarf lion is a lot different than a 2" watchman goby.

lg

neon gobies fixed

got any info on that blenny Steelhealr?

sorry for the the little boxes. don't know why it did that. I will fix it tommorow, or next week, or next month....

sleep...

Under the jawfishes, please add the Bluespotted jawfish and the Dusky jawfish. The Bluespotted is yellow with blue spots, and the Dusky jawfish is molted brown and white (well, the one I saw was), with aqua to rainbow eyes. They are both very pretty (especially the Dusky) and have the same requirements and are the same length. The Dusky is found in the Carribean, like the Yellowheaded, but the Bluespotted is found in the Eastern Pacific. Again, they are both very beautiful!

Here's the 'infamous' La link for ecsenius stigmatura:

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_di...pcatid=2229&N=0

Here's the local thread:

http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?...tailspot+blenny

SH

what about Ursus maritimus?

http://www.nano-reef.com/arcticreef

HA PERFECT for my pico!!!

went to the wholesaler's place for a big meet today, and saw about a dozen of these guys. OOOOH they're nice =) too bad we could only look and not pop them into our containers to bring home.

Lgreen: Great Work!

Few comments:

6Line Wrasse and all wrasses should be 20min 30+ recomended. Go over to reefcentral and they will flame anyone with a 6line in a nano (sub 30 gal)

Please add an additional note under the Blenny category about their venomous bite. Many blennies are venomous, red sea mimic blenny, white fang blenny, as well as those listed. People must be cautious to know the blenny they are buying.

Damsles: I would almost reccomend you place clowns and common damsles in separate categories. Definitly should mention the aggressiveness of common damsles like yellowtail and domino. Noobs should be wary of adding these to their tanks.

And lastly.... minimum tank size for a scooter blenny should probably be bigger.

Can someone show me where it is stated that red sea mimics are venemous?

I've had others tell me this before but they are in the escenius genus with bicolors, tail-spots etc. I was under the impression they only mimic a venemous blenny....

Wetweb says nothing about them being venemous.

free bump

Added:
-Tailspot Blenny
-Rusty Jawfish
-Blue Spot Jawfish

Thanks

Oh, Koden, I didn't forget your seahorse info. I will add it when I get around to doing the seahorse section. Thanks for the info.

Burtnnator07,

The following blennies are poisonous:

-Yellowtail Fang Blenny
-Bundoon Fang Blenny
-Striped Fang Blenny
-Mozambique Fang Blenny
-Blackline Fang Blenny
-Canary Fang Blenny
-Smith's Fang Blenny

All others I listed, inlcuding the red sea mimic blenny are NOT venomous. (The only venomous one I listed was the Yellowtail Fang Blenny)

no problemo. i think this is list is great! thanks for working on it.

Hey, lgreen, when you write the seahorse info, i suggest taking a look at this sight:
http://www.seahorse.com/

Maybe seahorses aren't "expert only" at all...

u mean u still havnt done the Seahorse [SH] section??? c'mon... get to the SH section.. i wanna see it done....

how can you ever be an expert without starting off somewhere?

some seahorses are much easier than others. You just need a seahorse specific tank.

Sorry, Expert Only is kind of an old school term used for fish that can be pretty difficult to keep. Didn't really think about it when I typed that, but yeah, I guess it sort of implies something different.

Changed [Expert Only] to [with caution, not for beginners]

I really have no plans to write the seahorse section anytime soon. Just started a new semester at school, so I will be swamped for the next 12 weeks.

If someone else wants to take a stab at it, go for it. Otherwise I'll get to it later.

I totally understand. That is a good comment that you have on them now.

I will take on the job of seahorses unless someone else wants to chime in?

it's all your's koden. make us proud

Yeah, they kind of get attacked and stung a lot. That site is very cool though. They sell "seahorse friendly clownfish". I didn't know there were that many types of seahorses: Mustangs, Pintos (copy from real horse breeds), Pixies....

Ya he is in a pit of homework now all of them Tigah, Igreen, Koden
They will up date this later but this is the best way to add to/ revise your work he might beable to get this published in a book or something not word for word just the idea. There arent any "NANO" books are there out there I think some one should make a NANO Fish and Inverabrites reffrence book along with filtration methods and all the other jazz.

I found this very informative. TTT!

ack, sorry, totally lost touch with the seahorse part of things. i will be writing it up soon, or if someone wants to take over, that'd be great.

Thank you for this topic, it helped me decide the fishy I will go with when my tank is ready in a few months .

i just wanted to tag onto this thread
very informative
keep up the information

Very informative and a good read... one thing though... what would a 15g come under (24x12x15)?

Keep up the good work

Probably more around the 10g range.

Thanks for the comments.

Thanks man, just couldn't decide wether it would be 10g or 20g, thanks for clearing that up =D

When in doubt, always be conservative in this hobby. You get in a lot less trouble that way.

lgreen, i think the flame angel and at least the coral beauty should be moved up to a minimum of 25-30g. after much reading on centropyges; since im not sure my 20h is enough for even a cherub; i have learned that other angels should have even more room.

travis

This is a great reference! I appreciate all your hard work. Last time I was at the Aquarium, I think I remember some various species of Filefish in a reef display. They weren't mentioned at all in your guide. I'm just starting out, so I don't even know if they are very common in the hobby. But maybe someone else knows if they are available for purchase, or if any are suitable for a nano?

SanDiegoIllini,

Thanks for the comments.

You bring up a good point.

Most filefish get to big for a nano (anywhere from 7-14 inches). Also many filefish are rather difficult to feed.

The Saddle Filefish may be a suitible choice for a nano and there is one other one that I can't remember the name of that might work. I'll look into it when I have some more time or if someone else wants to...great.

Also I haven't forgot about the comments posted above and the PMs some of you have sent. I will do an update when school out.

BUMP



Can't seahorses be kept with pipefish? I may be wrong, though...

Yes

Thanks for your work on this subject!

sorry guys I never got back to you on the Seahorses. I just took my LSAT yesterday and before that I was doing nothing but studying =/

is it still needed?

lgreen thanks for the awesome thread, this was a lot of work for sure and is helpful to me to begin stocking my 10g!

NICE! but how bout the False Percula Clownfish?

see ocellaris clownfish

lgreen. Very Nice. How long did it take you to write this?