chazde3
Dec 22 2008, 02:04 AM
Glad it's restored. This guide has helped many noobs get off to a good start stocking their tanks, including me back when I started.
lgreen
Dec 22 2008, 02:13 AM
Good to hear!
jeremai
Dec 22 2008, 02:30 AM
Like sections III and IV?
lgreen
Dec 22 2008, 02:37 AM
QUOTE (jeremai @ Dec 22 2008, 12:30 AM)

Like sections III and IV?

haha...did i never finish that? sheesh.
vangvace
Jan 3 2009, 04:36 PM
Hey lgreen. Any chance you can add something about which fish can be readily breed in captivity?
lakshwadeep
Jan 3 2009, 07:20 PM
QUOTE (vangvace @ Jan 3 2009, 03:36 PM)

Hey lgreen. Any chance you can add something about which fish can be readily breed in captivity?
If you would like some info on breeding fish, visit MOFIB at marinebreeder.org.
jeremai
Jan 3 2009, 09:28 PM
I WOULD LIKE TO LODGE A COMPLAINT. I CAME HERE LOOKING FOR IDEAS ON A FISH FOR MY NANOWAVE 9, BUT IT IS NOT LISTED ANYWHERE. THIS SORT OF DISCRIMINATION SHOULD NOT BE TOLERATED.
I'M STARTING A LETTER WRITING CAMPAIGN, WE WILL NOT BE IGNORED!!!
lakshwadeep
Jan 3 2009, 09:30 PM
you can't keep fish in a microwave
jeremai
Jan 3 2009, 09:30 PM

Guess I should take out the tang, then?
vangvace
Jan 3 2009, 10:08 PM
QUOTE (lakshwadeep @ Jan 3 2009, 07:20 PM)

If you would like some info on breeding fish, visit MOFIB at marinebreeder.org.
I was thinking more along the lines of available from captive breeding. 1 less fishy from the ocean and all.
lakshwadeep
Jan 3 2009, 10:22 PM
QUOTE (vangvace @ Jan 3 2009, 09:08 PM)

I was thinking more along the lines of available from captive breeding. 1 less fishy from the ocean and all.
ORA has a lot of species listed:
http://www.orafarm.com/fish.htmledit: they don't sell directly. Check with your LFS or online.
revaltion131
Jan 11 2009, 12:01 AM
Here's a list of what's been successfully bred at, I think, commercial levels.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/AqSciSubWebIndex/orncultart.htm
kingtut
Jan 25 2009, 07:50 PM
QUOTE (lgreen @ Dec 25 2005, 02:42 AM)

Fish Stocking Guide For Nano Reefs
By lgreen (copyright 2005-2007)
[list]Your responsibility as a fish owner:
I just ran across this...very nice work! I'm curious to know if there if anyone has tried to write a comprehansive guide such as this for corals in a Nano tank?
beachsidejuj
Jan 25 2009, 08:08 PM
Yes! I would like to know that too!!!
lakshwadeep
Jan 25 2009, 08:56 PM
here's a good link:
http://www.asira.org/caresheetsThere aren't many differences between nanos and large tanks in keeping corals. In every tank you will have to consider water quality, lighting/food, and placement.
Kraylen
Jan 25 2009, 08:58 PM
AcroporaLokani did a write up on corals that I thought was pretty good.
goin_all_out
Jan 26 2009, 05:30 PM
I have a curious question. Why would a Sixline Wrasse, full grown at about 3 inches, be considered OK (and I stress OK) for a 10G+ aquarium where lets say a Dot-N-Dash Flasher Wrasse (Paracheleilinus Lineopunctatus), full grown at about 2.5 inches, only be suitable for a 20G+. Interested in thoughts for this one.
BKtomodachi
Jan 26 2009, 05:38 PM
QUOTE (Kraylen @ Jan 25 2009, 07:58 PM)

AcroporaLokani did a write up on corals that I thought was pretty good.
lakshwadeep
Jan 26 2009, 07:03 PM
Flasher wrasses are open water feeders (planktivores), while the sixline moves close and in between the rocks to find pods to eat.
lgreen
Jan 26 2009, 08:28 PM
QUOTE (kingtut @ Jan 25 2009, 05:50 PM)

I just ran across this...very nice work! I'm curious to know if there if anyone has tried to write a comprehansive guide such as this for corals in a Nano tank?
I have one started...can't say when it will be done for sure though.
goin_all_out
Jan 26 2009, 09:25 PM
QUOTE (lakshwadeep @ Jan 26 2009, 07:03 PM)

Flasher wrasses are open water feeders (planktivores), while the sixline moves close and in between the rocks to find pods to eat.
Thank you very much, well explained and apreciated greatly.
wombat
Feb 6 2009, 08:37 PM
Has anybody already suggested the use of latin names?
Scott Riemer
Feb 6 2009, 08:45 PM
QUOTE (wombat @ Feb 6 2009, 05:37 PM)

Has anybody already suggested the use of latin names?
I'm not speaking for lgreen, but given the nature of the guide as being a sticky in the Beginner Section, common names seem to be adequate to help beginner's find fish by what they will be commonly referred to as in the LFS.
lgreen
Feb 6 2009, 09:19 PM
Agreed. If you want the scientific name, type the common name in google and search for it.
If you absolutely can't find it, then pm me or post here.
wombat
Feb 7 2009, 02:00 AM
QUOTE (lgreen @ Feb 6 2009, 06:19 PM)

Agreed. If you want the scientific name, type the common name in google and search for it.
If you absolutely can't find it, then pm me or post here.
Okay. I typed "green clown goby" into google, and got back Gobiodon histrio, G. atrangulatus, G. rivulatus...which species does it refer to?
Gerber77
Feb 7 2009, 02:10 AM
"Gobiodon atrangulatus" courtesy of Liveaquaria.com
lgreen
Feb 7 2009, 02:43 AM
QUOTE (wombat @ Feb 7 2009, 12:00 AM)

Okay. I typed "green clown goby" into google, and got back Gobiodon histrio, G. atrangulatus, G. rivulatus...which species does it refer to?

Gobiodon rivulatus:

Gobiodon histrio:

Gobiodon atrangulatus:

Notice the difference between the red patterning between G. histrio and G. atrangulatus.
The one you commonly see in fish stores is G. atrangulatus.
wombat
Feb 7 2009, 04:18 PM
I guess I am not making my point clearly enough.
Novice fishkeeper walks into LFS and ask for a "purple dottyback"...will he be sold P. fridmani or P. porphyreus? I'm sure you and I know there are 2 similar looking species, and how to tell the difference, and what the common names are, but how does he? Should he trust the LFS to give him the correct info and name, or maybe just sell him whatever purple colored dotty they have in stock? There are many examples of similar looking fish with different personalities that this applies to.
How about a picture, or description, or latin name, or a link to Fishbase.org, etc. to eliminate any possible confusion?
Like this:
Orchid Dottyback, Pseudochromis fridmaniPurple/Magenta Dottyback, Pseudochromis porphyreus
Scott Riemer
Feb 7 2009, 04:44 PM
So basically your argument is that it should be like yours on reefs.org?
wombat
Feb 7 2009, 05:01 PM
QUOTE (Scott Riemer @ Feb 7 2009, 01:44 PM)

So basically your argument is that it should be like yours on reefs.org?
Or like any scientific paper, www.liveaquaria.com, foreign websites, diving photography sites, etc etc etc.?
BKtomodachi
Feb 7 2009, 05:16 PM
QUOTE (wombat @ Feb 7 2009, 04:01 PM)

Or like any scientific paper, www.liveaquaria.com, foreign websites, diving photography sites, etc etc etc.?
I agree with you, in an ideal situation. But then the guide would no longer be noob-friendly. We're pushing their intellectual capabilities as it is.
wombat
Feb 7 2009, 06:01 PM
That's a good point. Too much information can be daunting.
Okay, I've said my piece, thanks for listening.
lakshwadeep
Feb 7 2009, 06:51 PM
I think listing the genus/family name would be okay.
JanVa
Feb 24 2009, 10:41 PM
WOW, thank you for putting this together and posting it.
Lianne_
Mar 12 2009, 06:41 PM
As a newcomer to reefs , I just wanted to say how brilliant this Ultimate Guide to Nano fish is (wish there would have been something like this for parenting!). It will help me think so much more clearly and responsibly from the very beginning and will hopefully prevent the later heartache of impulse buys gone bad.
Thank you, most kindly, for sharing your experience and thinking.
Lianne
Kraylen
Mar 12 2009, 07:21 PM
ehhhhh
lshane
Mar 14 2009, 01:40 PM
I have a 14g biocube and I am in the process of stocking it (running for three months). I currently have a diamond sleeper goby & a yellow clown goby (wanted to add the most peaceful fish first). I would like to get two more small fish with LOTS of personality and lots of color.
I'm new to reef keeping and would like some advice on fish that may be good. You can check out my tank blog if you want to see what else I have stocked in the tank...
Thanks!!!
L.
lgreen
Mar 14 2009, 02:20 PM
14g is too small for a diamond sleeper goby.
lshane
Mar 14 2009, 03:09 PM
QUOTE (lgreen @ Mar 14 2009, 03:20 PM)

14g is too small for a diamond sleeper goby.
Well he is in there already, I bought it on the advice of my LFS, from reading these forums I now know they can't always be trusted... If he is not a good fish for this tank what do I do? I'm new to this whole reef aquarium thing, and so advice is helpful for me.
Thanks.
L.
lgreen
Mar 14 2009, 11:59 PM
stop posting in bold for one
Hoosierfan
Mar 15 2009, 12:05 AM
QUOTE (lshane @ Mar 14 2009, 04:09 PM)

Well he is in there already, I bought it on the advice of my LFS, from reading these forums I now know they can't always be trusted... If he is not a good fish for this tank what do I do? I'm new to this whole reef aquarium thing, and so advice is helpful for me.
Thanks.
L.
Those get pretty big. Take him back to the store.
lshane
Mar 15 2009, 02:26 AM
QUOTE (lgreen @ Mar 15 2009, 12:59 AM)

stop posting in bold for one

Wow... Thanks, that's a big help!
lgreen
Mar 15 2009, 02:33 AM
QUOTE (Hoosierfan @ Mar 14 2009, 11:05 PM)

Take him back to the store.
Kraylen
Mar 15 2009, 02:35 AM
back to the store. These fish need huge tanks or very large sandbeds.
lshane
Mar 15 2009, 02:37 AM
Okay, a number of people have said take him back... which is fine. But on lgreen's guide it says that an orange spotted goby can be kept in a 10g tank. I am pretty sure that orange spotted and diamond sleeper goby are the same thing (at least they have the same picture on a google search). So what's the deal? Thanks.
L.
Kraylen
Mar 15 2009, 02:38 AM
No they are not, hes talking about the orange spotted shrimp goby, not diamond goby. two different fish all together.
lshane
Mar 15 2009, 02:44 AM
Okay... Googled it again... looks the same as mine, but then again it's really late... Here is a picture of mine which one is it? Sorry still new(ish) to the whole reef thingy... I wish when they sold them they used their latin names, then at least I would know for sure which one I bought!
lgreen
Mar 15 2009, 02:48 AM
QUOTE (Kraylen @ Mar 15 2009, 01:38 AM)

No they are not, hes talking about the orange spotted shrimp goby, not diamond goby. two different fish all together.
Exactly.
Diamond Goby (sand sifting goby):

Orange Spotted Goby (shrimp goby)

QUOTE (lshane @ Mar 15 2009, 01:44 AM)

Okay... Googled it again... looks the same as mine, but then again it's really late... Here is a picture of mine which one is it? Sorry still new(ish) to the whole reef thingy... I wish when they sold them they used their latin names, then at least I would know for sure which one I bought!

looks like a small diamond goby to me.
lshane
Mar 15 2009, 02:50 AM
QUOTE (lgreen @ Mar 15 2009, 03:48 AM)

Exactly.
Diamond Goby (sand sifting goby):

Orange Spotted Goby (shrimp goby)

looks like a small diamond goby to me.
i'd have to see the face more head on though to be 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure.
Thanks, I think you're right it's the diamond goby... crap, it's my favorite thing to watch in the tank, it has so much personality!
Really good guide. Should I only keep one fish in my 5.5 gallon tank? Currently none of the space is taken up so theres plenty of swimming space and I'm not going to go OTT with live rock because I have plenty of time to let it mature, there could be quite a bit of space left. Would it be pushing it to have a Yellowtail blue Damsel in with a Yellow Neon Goby perhaps? Or an Ocellaris Clownfish on its own?
I'm also not planning on having any Zoa's or mushrooms, which may or may not be a good idea. Does the amount of fauna decrease or increase the capacity of a tank or does it have no effect?
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