Gilman
Oct 12 2005, 05:24 PM
So in the UK it seems the closest tank to the standard 2.5 we have here in the States is 12"x8"x8" for a total of 3.3 Gallons.
So the question is, should UK reefers be allowed to participate with their low cost equivalent or should they be made to pay for custom tanks to compete?
Thanks for voting.
Sebea
Oct 12 2005, 05:27 PM
Yay, or Nay...
I say Yay
phergus_25
Oct 12 2005, 05:32 PM
.8 gallons is a good bit when were talkin only 2.5 gallons that we get. I say only in custom one
tinyreef
Oct 12 2005, 05:34 PM
sure.*
jmorris
Oct 12 2005, 06:03 PM
If someone wants to enter the contest, I think they should accept the facts of their situation and deal with them acordingly... example: I have a full load at college, a kid due to be born any minute now, and work to boot... but, I have accepted the fact that I will just have to work extra hard at fitting this contest into my schedule.
The moral of the story: if you are in the UK, get a custom tank made, make one yoursef, order one from the US, or don't enter... those are your options. Preferential treatment based on where someone lives, how old they are, how much experiance they have would just break up the whole concept of the contest IMHO.
Jared
MinibowMatt
Oct 12 2005, 06:07 PM
I say only in the stock category. If they are going custom, they can build/mod a tank to work in the specified params...
roach0matic
Oct 12 2005, 06:40 PM
QUOTE(MattC @ Oct 12 2005, 07:07 PM)

I say only in the stock category. If they are going custom, they can build/mod a tank to work in the specified params...
^^ ditto
Fishfreak218
Oct 12 2005, 06:47 PM
i say only in the custom because think about oit BASIC...if minibows arnt alowed in the basic than neither should the 3.3g more room for corals...and al that jazz....to me the extra water isnt much of a deal its just the extra sapce for corals..let them play but not in basic
reefin300
Oct 12 2005, 06:56 PM
QUOTE(Fishfreak218 @ Oct 12 2005, 04:47 PM)

i say only in the custom because think about oit BASIC...if minibows arnt alowed in the basic than neither should the 3.3g more room for corals...and al that jazz....to me the extra water isnt much of a deal its just the extra sapce for corals..let them play but not in basic
Let them have their fun, if you tank is meant to win then you shouldn't be worried about the little bit of extra space. I say BOTH CATs
Fishfreak218
Oct 12 2005, 07:01 PM
your in the pico contest to reffin300???? i didnt know that
red-reef
Oct 12 2005, 07:51 PM
Why even have this discussion when the rules say 2.5????????? So they get a bigger tank and everyone else goes by the rules. Maybe they should wait until nano-reef. com has a 3.3 gallon contest!!
dickie52
Oct 12 2005, 07:57 PM
sure.*
Gilman
Oct 12 2005, 08:23 PM
QUOTE(red-reef @ Oct 12 2005, 05:51 PM)

Why even have this discussion when the rules say 2.5????????? So they get a bigger tank and everyone else goes by the rules. Maybe they should wait until nano-reef. com has a 3.3 gallon contest!!
One of the UK people asked about this in the rules discussion thread. I wasn't sure how the community as a whole would feel about this, so I figured I would go ahead and start a poll to find out. With some of the rules, final decisions have been made, but I figured when it came to excluding those in the UK from using their low price alternative in either contest, I would ask the community for their input.
Travis
Oct 12 2005, 08:28 PM
"2.5g Display" = 2.5g Display
Nuff said
red-reef
Oct 12 2005, 08:39 PM
^^^^^
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Snoop
Oct 12 2005, 10:32 PM
No way I dont meen to be meen but this is a 2.5 contest that would be totall bull if they get to use a 3.3 if they do than they would be getting special privlages making the contest bias.
Daemonfly
Oct 13 2005, 12:08 AM
What about a UK-only category(s)?
Even if they win the current categories, all the prizes are from over here, so they'd have to pay the extra shipping. Any way to get some UK sponsors?
What about all of them going in on a group buy and seeing if they can get one of their stores to ship in a pallet or whatever of 2.5g tanks?
icenine
Oct 13 2005, 06:47 AM
QUOTE(Daemonfly @ Oct 13 2005, 12:08 AM)

What about a UK-only category(s)?
Too much of PITA it would seem to me...
But you bring up a good point about the prizes. I'm sure that anyone thinking of taking part from the UK is already painfully aware of that fact though.
I say let them play, personally it does not bother me that they will have the extra space.
Casabubu
Oct 13 2005, 10:00 AM
How about having them section 2" of the back wall with some plastic?
Fishfreak218
Oct 13 2005, 03:08 PM
i agree with casabubu ...let them section of 2" off the back
Tigahboy
Oct 14 2005, 08:00 PM
I say let em in both.
Bobby417919
Oct 14 2005, 08:09 PM
they cant get 2.5 gallons???
tinyreef
Oct 14 2005, 08:54 PM
QUOTE(Bobby417919 @ Oct 14 2005, 09:09 PM)

they cant get 2.5 gallons???
gawd-
damn that evil metric system!
br1anm
Oct 18 2005, 03:37 PM
what about it?
having spent the last week looking for a tank of those dimensions, we just dont have them over here. it would be possible to order a tank of that size but at a far greater cost. i think its reasonable for us to section off the rear 2 inches in the tank to make it 12 x 6 x 8 inches.
thanks and hoping to take part in the stock
brianm
Gilman
Oct 18 2005, 04:13 PM
FINAL WORD.
UK Reefers will be allowed to complete in either contest. For those of you who do not agree with this, I apologize. Please remember this is supposed to be a fun, affordable (as far as reefs go) contest for everyone here in the community.
Out of 63 votes there were 51 people who voted to let UK reefers participate in one way or another, and only 12 no votes. That is convincing enough for me to think that the majority of the Nano-Reef.com community, especially those taking part in this contest, are fine with our UK brethren competing without having to spend 11ty billion dollars on their tank (if they don't want to).
Note to UK reefers....All non domestic shipping costs involved with prizes would need to be covered by the winner, which means UK reefers would mainly be playing for glory (shipping would be very expensive). I'm not even sure if you can even ship corals overseas..if not, it rules out alot of the prizes that are available.
Thanks to everyone for voting.
Nednai
Oct 18 2005, 04:17 PM
QUOTE(Gilman @ Oct 18 2005, 09:13 PM)

Out of 63 votes there were 51 people who voted to let UK reefers participate in one way or another, and only 12 no votes. That is convincing enough for me to think that the majority of the Nano-Reef.com community, especially those taking part in this contest, are fine with our UK brethren competing without having to spend 11ty billion dollars on their tank (if they don't want to).
Chi Squared P-Value: 0.0003~ Fails at 99%. I couldn't agree more!
Gilman
Oct 18 2005, 04:18 PM
QUOTE(Nednai @ Oct 18 2005, 02:17 PM)

Chi Squared P-Value: 0.0003~ Fails at 99%. I couldn't agree more!
confusorcise
br1anm
Oct 18 2005, 04:20 PM
thanks for the prompt reply
do we need to partition the rear 2 inches to have the same dimensions?
will not be using hob filter, as guess what, they arent common over here either!
with regards to prizes, in the ever so unlikely event of winning one!, i would like to suggest it be sold / or monetary value donated to a suitable charity.
thanks again
brianm
Gilman
Oct 18 2005, 04:23 PM
You do not need to modify the tank. If you do partition it off to make it the tank the same size as the US competitors, it can't have water behind it or it would be considered a false back.
ps. if you make it the same size as US competitors that would make people who voted no happier probably.
pss. good idea with unlikely prize scenario.
Nednai
Oct 18 2005, 11:14 PM
QUOTE(Gilman @ Oct 18 2005, 09:18 PM)

confusorcise
it's statistics, it backed up your conclusion.
Gilman
Oct 18 2005, 11:21 PM
QUOTE(Nednai @ Oct 18 2005, 09:14 PM)

it's statistics, it backed up your conclusion.
Hey...thanks!
Blind Tree Frog
Nov 22 2005, 04:06 PM
To late for this, but since this thread popped back up, an idea for the future i guess:
QUOTE
will not be using hob filter, as guess what, they arent common over here either!
If HOB's aren't common over there anyhow, forbidding Euro reefers from using HOB's would probably even out the difference. They get some extra volume from the tank size and lose some volume due to the pump, but 'Merican reefers get that same volume (if not less) from an HOB if they choose. Probably makes it no big deal in the end.
birdman204
Nov 23 2005, 01:30 AM
This hasn't been mentioned, but 2.5 -> 3.3 ,
the 3.3 is 33% larger......
And you know what they say about size.....
paco1l1d
Nov 25 2005, 10:55 AM
I would have to agree with phergus_25 on this one. .8 gallons is alot when we are only talking 2.5 gallons to begin with. SO I say only in custom.
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