steelhealr
Apr 15 2005, 01:09 PM
Hi Wooby Cat...I had some leftover Eheim 12/16 tubing. I believe that 1/2" tubing will do. You'll need those small plastic ring ties (that wratchet) to hold the tubing onto the pump and the elbow connector that connects to the flare nozzle. You'll see what I mean when you take out the stock pump and look how it attaches.
I am currently working on a way to put the stock pump in the third chamber. Go to Marine Depot and look up under plumbing the Loc-Line tubing connectors. I am going home to measure the pump, but, I think the order list might include some of the following. Again, I am not sure yet, but, here is what I am looking at:
a) 6" of 1/2" flexible ball socket joint tubing.....3 pieces

1/2" round nozzle elbow 1 piece
c) 1/2" MPT connecto 4 pieces
d) 1/2" elbow fitting 4 pieces
e) 1/2" assmbly pliers
f) 2 1/2" swivel nozzle
Without the actual pieces in ones hands to play around with, I've guessed those pieces based on what I think the shape of the setup should be. My other idea is to try some elbow connectors from some suctions cannisters where I work and see if they will connect to the Eheim tubing or clear tubing that goes with them, and then just put the pump in the third chamber and shape it over the side. The other way would be to drill/dremel a hole in the wall similar to the stock nozzle. I have this thing against drilling the darn thing.
The setup you have is moe than enough to get you up and cycled and support your fish and cleanup crew if you want to wait and see what I come up with and if it works. SH
steelhealr
Apr 15 2005, 04:45 PM
To WoobyCat..this is the response from Marine Depot when I asked them about constructing tubing from chamber 3:
Hi Frank,
Thanks for your inquiry. Due to the small amount of space between the wall and the canopy, what you are trying to do would be extremely difficult, if not impossible. Another problem is that the drain ( on the left hand side) will not be able to handle that much flow. Your best bet is too put that powerhead inside the tank itself.
Please let us know if there is anything else we can help you with.
Sincerely,
Joseph
Marine Depot Customer Service
Let me check this out further....Ah'll be Bock. SH
woobycat
Apr 15 2005, 05:06 PM
Hey SH,
thanks for the heads up, I ordered some tubing and fittings including a bulkhead screw in prep for modding the 3rd tank. I was prepared to drill a second hole for the fit. so itt seems that the volume of the chamber cannot support the flow from two pumps. bummer.Are you going to stick with the first and third chambers for you powerhead location?
What is your take on the Seio powerheads???
Again, Thanks
WDM
RandyO
Apr 16 2005, 12:14 AM
sure wish steelhealr would reduce the size of that image so I could quit having to scroll my window to read this page
steelhealr
Apr 16 2005, 12:23 AM
Woobycat....change up here. Tonite I tried to fiddle around. When I was ordering my equipment, I ordered the smallest Maxijet thinking I would use it to mix SW. It is the MJ400 and it does about 106gph. Well...never trust anything anyone tells you unless you are sure yourself. I rigged up a test tonite to see how the grate handles the flow. Granted, the pump is less than the stock pump, but, together with the 1200, total gph would be 401gph, about 17X. I just did a test run..didn't run to check temps. Here is the jury-rigged setup (didn't set this up for aesthetics, just to test:
First off, the intake grate, first and second chamber showed no turbulence. Second, if you move the heater into the back righthand corner of the third chamber, the pump fits with the suctions cups against the anterior wall with no problem. Thirdly, the flow across the back of the tank with the flange nozzle was very nice and didn't disturb the substrate. For those of us without the experience of drilling bulkheads, the tubing fit over the wall without significant cripping....just need more right angle connectors to make a smooth fit. I may go this route. I have my LR in..and with my work schedule, drilling and bulkheads is pushing it. If you have the time, I think you can do your project in the third chamber. I saw another website where someone put a minijet in the first chamber underneath the sponge, which, at first, looked like a good idea thinking that it will pull water down thru the sponge and help with mechanical filtration. However, I still think that the suction is going to pull debris either out of the sponge or out of chamber 2 and shoot it back into the tank.
As for powerheads, I think there is a large consensus here that Maxijets are excellent. SH
steelhealr
Apr 16 2005, 09:27 PM
Update
For anyone still new and following, a partial cleanup crew was added today. The crew is added after algae shows up. Not the greatest pix, but, here is a 'before and after' shot after one week of cycling. Stats: pH 7.9, ammonia 0, nitrite 0, nitrate 0, two partial water changes, 15% and 10%.
BEFORE
AFTER..note the diatoms/algae now starting to cover the sand. Also see if you can see some coralline algae in the pic.
Cleanup Crew added:
5 astrea snails
5 nassarius snails
2 scarlet hermits
2 blue leg hermits
extra shells, lol
I wanted an emerald crab but they were out.
What is fascinating is that , when placed in the tank, the hermits immediately started to go to work. They pick up individual grains of sand and clean it. As you watch, small circles of white open up around them and they REALLY DO clean it up. It's amazing.
Refugium started:
In the back middle chamber, I added Halimeda macroalgae:
Tomorrow, I'll rig up the submersible light and we'll see if it survives. SH
MBurton
Apr 17 2005, 10:49 AM
I just caught onto this thread today (april 17th) and I went back to read it from the start. I think you just convinced me on the 24g JBJ. Thanks for shedding some light on the trials and tribulations of mod-ing the cube to be more user friendly. I really appreciate it and Im sure I speak for anyone else who is considering a nano.
woobycat
Apr 17 2005, 10:49 AM
Hey SH,
Thanks for the update. It is sunday, and I will not recieve my tank until tomorrow...Cant wait. I will be glad to see first hand what we have been talking about..Your aquascape looks great. Will get back to you as soon as my cube arrives. I am sure I will have some questions.
Regards, WDM
emoutz
Apr 17 2005, 11:47 AM
SH
Thanks for your guide. It is a great source of information and, actually, inspired me to take the plunge with a 12g nano cube dx. Added my live rock yesterday. I've got a few thoughts/questions for anyone -
1. i've got a nice stand that could probably support an old 10 gallon tank as a sump (gotta think about weight issues) hidden under the tank. Im pretty sure I could rig this up using an old canister filter. Is it worth the hassle? I figure adding any additional water volume will make the system more stable (as will the macro and other goodies I could grow) and might be worthwhile since I have the room. Thoughts? Will standard flourescents work well enough to support macro in the sump?
2. picked up my LR yesterday at the LFS (fresh off the truck - they were unpacking it when I arrived). I cherrypicked the new rock and ended up with 10 pounds with all sorts of nice life - snails, coraline, fanworms, kelp, macro, zoanthids, and what looks like 2 different types of still living coral that I have yet to identify. I did NOT scrub the rock (aside from picking off some obviously dead stuff) in order to preserve life. The LFS guy tried to discourage me - saying "its all going to die cept the coraline so select rocks based on shape, not life." Based on my limited reading this is somewhat untrue. Dont have hope for the corals but some of the other stuff may live? Anyway - what can I do, if anything, to help some/all of this life survive the cycling period?
Thanks
Eric
RandyO
Apr 17 2005, 11:59 AM
salt water is 8.5lbs to the gallon, if your stand can support say 150 safely, you should have no concerns unless you try moving the thing and it collapes from side loading.
emoutz
Apr 17 2005, 12:18 PM
I know the stand can support the nano - its a 29 gallon stand. But its a cabinet type stand so I'm not sure the bottom shelf inside the cabinet (where I'd place the sump) would support a ten gallon tank. I need to look at how the bottom is built before I make that call.
steelhealr
Apr 17 2005, 07:38 PM
To MBurton: thanks for the support. I'll be glad to pitch in for you when I can. This is a less of a 'high tech' thread and more of a 'lets get up and running and advance as we go type'....Plus...you'll see where I fail and what's works. Looking at those incredibly amazing tanks gives me optimism, but, were a bit ahead of me at this stage.
To my buddy Woobycat...WTG...I think maybe after a bit, YOU'll be the sensei and I"ll be the kohei. As for the aquascape, I tried to make an 'atoll' type shape and keep it open. Twin peaks looks good too. It's tough to do, you'll see, with the dimensions. I think if you keep the LR pieces softball size, it is easier. Keep me posted...I'm following along your progress..let's keep this going.
To Emoutz...if you can rig up a sump under your nano, I would definitely do it. I wanted the 12G originally, but, when the 24 was available, I wanted that extra 'cushion' (if it exists in a nano system). The sump could contain a refugium as well as equipment and I know your fluorescents would probably do fine. Many people are illuminating their macro with under 15 watts of light. If you have the 'guts', it wouldn't be hard to drill holes thru the hood to run your lines in and out of..they could go either into the tank or the last chamber.
As for the LR, I only picked off soft 'yucky' stuff that looked REALLY DEAD. I didn't scrub the rock. The pieces of LR that were muddy, tho', I rinsed off in SW. I think your making the right choice. The best thing you can do is just do a good cycle....and start light up to help keep the light requiring coralline algae alive. If it is truly uncured..which I now think mine wasn't....you can start off at 2 hours/day and increase it incrementally. If you find the die off is minimal and you cycle quickly...the light can go up faster. SH
steelhealr
Apr 17 2005, 09:54 PM
Hi..my refugium modification is now in place and running. I'll post back on this with the two main points of interest:
1) Will it process nitrates (ie, keep nitrates at 0)
2) Will the macroalgae survive with this type of light.
steelhealr
Apr 17 2005, 10:57 PM
Update
Again, for those still following, I've started to note areas of my LR turning white. It looks almost as if someone caked on flour. I'll try and take a pic of this tomorrow. According to what is posted here, this is 'die off' of coralline algae. Review of posts say the following:
1) this is normal when cycling uncured LR.
2) it is related to coralline algae not used to the light intensity.
3) this may be a Ca2+ or alkalinity problem
Remedies posted included:
1) check calcium and alkalinity parameters
2) ride it out, that die off is expected and that the algae will come back.
3) decrease lighting and/or reduce the actinic component for awhile
4) dose with kalkwasser
I will check these two parameters...they were satisfactory at the start of the cycle and I wouldn't understand why the Ca2+ would drop. Unless there is something drastically wrong, I don't think that adding chemicals right now is the way to go. SH
emoutz
Apr 18 2005, 10:39 AM
I noticed the same thing (parts of my LR turning white). 75% of my rock was brand new off the truck and those are the rocks that are having some die off. I have another chunk that was in the store for awhile - maybe it qualifies as cured. The coraline on that chunk has remained healthy. I've opted for an immediate 10 hour light cycle for two reasons: (1) that is what the LR was subjected to at the LFS; and (2) the zoanthids, macro, and coral need the light if they are going to have any chance.
I've decided to give the extra 10 gallon a shot this weekend. I'll post pictures and a description of what I did in case anyone else wants to give it a shot.
Right now I'm thinking that I'll try cutting a hole in the lid near chamber two for the outtake and then pumping the water directly into the tank (rather than letting it go back through chamber 3 w/ the stock pump). Should give me good additional (and adjustable) circulation.
steelhealr
Apr 18 2005, 02:38 PM
Emoutz..thanks for the f/u....and...thanks..so...this is not unusual of new LR. I am taking a sample of my water to the LFS just to check it againts my testing kit. SH
woobycat
Apr 19 2005, 04:58 PM
Hey Sage,
How is your tank doing? I am still waiting on mine to arrive..Fed Ex broke the first one, now UPS is taking a shot at it. Where are you at with yours? Any new pictures to post? I am living vicariously at this point, so throw me a bone!
Regards,
WDM
steelhealr
Apr 19 2005, 05:37 PM
YIKES....broken. That shaped glass can crack...just make sure you do a water test before you set it up. It's just one thing I wouldn't skip during setup because of the glass shape..there have been some horror stories here Woobycat. Since I was testing my submersible for the refugium, mine was running for several days before emptying. I'll have more pix tonite. My cleanup crew really DID seem to be doing the job since putting them in as of this morning. Where am I at?
--I added two emerald crabs
--if I"m not crazy, the white crusting seemed slightly less and I think I see more coralline coming back in areas.
--algae seems to be cleaning up my total crew 5 Nassarius, 5 Astrea,2 scarlet hermits and two blue leg hermits, two emerald crabs. I could probably add more snails SH
steelhealr
Apr 20 2005, 12:58 AM
Update
For those still following along:
1) The submersible fuge light is not causing any tank overheating and the macroalgae is still green....success so far, tho' still early.
2) I have a little bit of nitrate in the tank....will water change tomorrow and swap out the sponge
3) Added two emerald crabs to the cleanup crew lineup
4) Finally..here is a pic of the change that occurred on the LR
Note the astrea snails have cleaned off that whole area of LR (compared to the rock at the upper right), leaving exposed a chalky white layer. This, I presume from my readings here, is dieoff of coralline algae. HOWEVER...if you look just below mid photo, the reddish stuff is all brand new, ie, I believe that is new regrowth. Also...man..check out how clean those guys made that rock. I'm surprised how quickly they move. My sand is also cleaning up and algae seems in check (for now, lol). If I can get my nitrates lower, then, I'll be comfortable considering other livestock (cleaner shrimp and first fish). SH
steelhealr
Apr 21 2005, 12:08 AM
Common Nano Cube Filter Media Additives ( or ka-ching $$$)
There are a few media inserts that are added as supplementary filtration aids in the back of our Nano Cubes and are worth mentioning. I thought I would post a few here. These have been placed by various reef keepers in all of the chambers, most commonly in the second, followed by the first.
Chemi-Pure
Chemi-Pure is made by Boyd Enterprises. It is a 'filter resin' (looks like carbon to me) which claims to have many properties including:
-eliminates fish loss
-no expensive water change ever
-removes copper, metal ions, odors
-ammonia and nitrate scavenging
-keeps pH at a perfect constant level
Recommendations are one unit for 5-40 gallons. Average cost is $6-12 per unit. Replacement is every 1-6 months (most replace after 3 months).
Purigen
Purigen is made by the SeaChem company which makes a lot of the test kits for reef tanks. Purigen claims to be a "macro-porous synthetic polymer that removes proteins, nitrite and nitrate, ammonia and a broad spectrum of organics at a rate and capacity that exceeds all others by over 500%. It significantly raises redox and polishes water clarity. Exhaustion is indicated by discoloration and can be regenerated easily. For marine and freshwater. 100 ml. treats up to 100 gallons, for up to 6 months."
Average cost is about $7-8.00 per 100mls with mesh bag.
PhosGuard and PhosBan
These products are designed to help reduce the level of phosphates in your tank and are usually purchased to help combat algae overgrowth. Phosguard is about $17.00 for 1.2kg/ 2L's and Phosban is about $16.50 for 150 g's.
SeaGel
SeaGel is another product by SeaChem. They describe it as: A blend of Seachem's Matrix Carbon and Phosguard, Seagel quickly removes organics, phosphate, silicates, toxic metals and acids from any alkaline fresh or saltwater aquarium. A fine mesh bag is recommended.
Cost is about $6.00 for 250mls.
IMO
Here we go...I think if you have a problem with phosphates and algae blooms, the phosphate removers may definitely help. I've seen nothing to convince me that Chemi-Pure or Purigen really do a whole lot . SeaGel seems to be gaining in popularity because it contains both phosphate removal and carbon filtration. Bottom line..
NOTHING REPLACES THE EFFECTIVENESS OF REGULAR FREQUENT WATER CHANGES. So, make your own decision. I plan to try one or two in combination and see what happens. SH
steelhealr
Apr 21 2005, 07:45 PM
Well..so far, I've been fortunate since coming up on 2 weeks:
1) My nitrates are falling...only half a bar away from 0. This could be multifactorial including reduction in die off material, water changes and, of course, if the macroalgae has 'kicked in'. Someone posted elsewhere that their macro is alive and doing well in the middle of their 12 gallon NC WITHOUT ANY ADDED FUGE LIGHT.
2) I added the live sand that arrived from a live tank. I kept it overnight in SW with a heater and all parameters checked out 0 the next day. I didn't add all five pounds...about 2-3. It came with some shells and a piece of what looked like branch rock. Really clouded up the water despite having poured off as much cloudy effluent as I could. It'll settle tho.
3) My livestock are still alive. The ocellaris is out and active. The firefish is extremely shy. So....I added two new members (ready Parker?). Added a green goby:
and a cleaner shrimp:
Let me tell you...that shrimp is intense in color. I love the blood shrimp, but, at $39-49 a pop out here.....they'll wait. I'm gonna hold here for now and let everyone adjust. I'm leaning towards a lawnmower blenny next.
4) The chalky white change on the LR is receding and I"m starting to get small areas of really intensely colored coralline algae, purple and burgundy colors.
5) One astrea snail was upside down...I hope I righted him in time (they can't right themselves). SH
steelhealr
Apr 23 2005, 08:28 PM
Update
First pest arrived....I think I see one area of bubble algae arising on the back rock. Bubble algae is not normally a sign of bad water conditions, but, is a hitchhiker on LR. It can take over your tank. I'm going to have to try and pull it off tomorrow.
I have some nice areas of coralline algae coming up. Most of that chalkiness is gone.
All tank inhabitants are alive and doing well. The firefish is less shy, but, doesn't seem to be eating. The ocellaris is eating the cyclopeeze and also took slow sinking pellet type food. The clown goby has been invisible. Pic:
Newbie DIY
For those following along..as you know, topping off is a constant thing now. Now I know why people have invented auto-topoff systems. Well....holding a 2.5 gallon jug of RO water at shoulder level and spending 10-15 minutes pouring water in ....well..let's just say I'm tired of getting my shoes wet. LOL. Besides, now that I have livestock and inverts, you can see the disturbance in the water as you pour RO water in. So....I just quickly put together a quick cheapo timesaver until I figure out whether or not I have the time to get an automatic system (I'll have to research the float valve thing).
Here is my temporizing DIY:
I have access to medical stuff, so, I grabbed some IV tubing and a canister. Aquarium tubing, any plastic jug and a gang valve would do the same thing.
I drilled a small hole in the bottom side of the canister, fit the tubing in and siliconed it together. Voila...fill it and adjust it to a drip. Now..this is not aesthetic to the eye, but, I'll put it up at night and take it down in the morning and back in the stand. Now, I don't have to hold anything, topping off is gradual with less risk of a temp change or floating gobs of pure water past the animals. I think it's time to start thinking about corals and researching it. SH
dukester48
Apr 25 2005, 05:32 PM
Ive just talked to local people about getting a lawnmower blenny in my 24g DX NC.., but everyone I talked to said that it gets too big and would be miserable.., let me know if anyone thinks it would be fine in a nano because I really want one but all the sites say minimum tank size of 30g's
thanx for the input
steelhealr
Apr 26 2005, 01:05 AM
Dukester....I've been getting the same feedback. Here is a quote from one of the moderators from another forum:
Sorry for the late comment but i would urge you to reconsider the lawnmowwer blenny for a tank of this size. 2 reasons really.. Firstly, they are extrem,ly difficult yo ween onto anything other than algae tht grows naturally. My algae blenny could just about keep up with my 100 gallon system. A small er system may find that the algae blenny will be too efficient and it will then later starve to death. 2nd Algae blennys are not the tiny lovable little fish you see hopin garound the tanks in your lfs. They get big.. (very big for a blenny) I had one last year that was 5 inches nose to tail and still had more grwoing to do IMO.
They are otherwise very peacefuland great additions to any tank but be aware that the 2 points i raised may not be an issue immediately but 12 months from now you may have problems.
steelhealr
Apr 26 2005, 01:10 AM
Update
Hi...experience is the best teacher. I lurked and read here for more than a month before setting up my 24G Nano Cube. So, who knew that a bulkhead wasn't just a partition in a ship or submarine (doh!). So...I can only dream of having a tank like Tighaboy's or Uchiha's, but, with only 10X flow...but......hmmmmm.
You know, I tried that famous mod of putting the stock pump in my first chamber since I swapped it our for a Maxijet 1200 in chamber 3 (see..I did my reading). Didn't fit well....shot water upward...pulled debris out of the sponge (which I have since gotten rid of)....you guys must know something that I don't. LOL. It still made more sense to me tho', that, flow should continue in a progression from chamber 1 --> 3. So...I had a Maxijet 400 that I had purchased for mixing salt..decided to use that instead of the stock pump...and tried to see what I could do with it. Here it goes:
Parts:
1) 1/2 elbows, Home Depot, sprinkler area
2) black tubing
3) ratchet ties
I apologize for the slightly cloudy pic as I stirred up some stuff while putting the mod in. The outflow nozzle actually doesn't have a big profile at all and I feel much better that I didn't have to put the entire powerhead in the chamber. The clearance between the splash guard and the tubing is close but the hood closes completely and securely. The water level in all three chambers hasn't fallen. The only thing I have to watch now is water temp. By my calculations, I should have 17X flow.
So...this certainly is not the greatest mod compared to those who have the technical skill and time and forethought to drill a bulkhead ( a what?? lol), but, I'm posting this to help out other starters like myself. I hope this helped. Thanks for your time. SH
Babycakes
Apr 26 2005, 02:17 PM
i love this thread! I'm still a beginner myself and you're helping me lots

keep up the great work!
steelhealr
Apr 26 2005, 02:24 PM
WTG Babycakes....low intensity thread here so we can ALL catch up to Tighaboy and Uchiha's tanks....(that's a compliment if you two guys check out this thread..LOL).
Just adding some info:
--having a small second algae bloom..you can see some of it in the pix here next. I added three margarita snails today. Total cleanup crew to date:
1) 5 astrea snails
2) 5 Nassarius snails
3) 3 margarita snails
4) 2 mithrax (emerald ) crabs
5) 4 hermits, 2 scarlet and 2 blue legged
6) 1 skunk cleaner shrimp.
I'm starting to get some nice areas of coralline algae:
SH
steelhealr
Apr 26 2005, 04:09 PM
Nano Cube Animals to Avoid (or Where Did My Fish Go?)
OK...some thoughts about what NOT to put in our cube. Remember how great the iridescent sharks looked in the tank at the lfs?? Who knew as a newly cycled FW tank owner that it would grow to 30 inches and overload the tank? Well...same here. It's very important to research your livestock before adding them to this system: compatibility with other fish, eating requirements. size, difficulty in care and aggressiveness. Here are just a few animals that should probably be avoided until some experience is gained:
Fish
1) Fish that will overload your system: This includes any fish that will grow larger than 'nano' size. Angels, puffers, tangs, lionfish, morays, etc
2) Mandarin Goby (Dragonette): I saw one at the lfs the other day..it's just an incredibly beautiful fish. Very tempting to buy. They eat the copepods and other small crustaceans in the tank. However, a nano cube is very small and the possibility of the fish starving to death is high. Posts say that they do not take other food readily.
Here is a good article to read on them before you decide to buy one:
http://www.reefcentral.com/modules.php?s=&...=showpage&pid=3
Invertebrates
1) Certain starfish
2) Nudibranchs
3) Some snails....many posts say bumble bee snails are aggressive; Turbo snails can get very large and knock over things
4) Sally Lightfoots and Arrow Crabs if you are going to have corals
Corals
1) Frogspawn...can sting other corals
2) Galaxia...same
3) Gonipora..don't do well in captivity
Anemones, Special Mention
Just one note...there are many disaster posts about keeping an anemone in a nano cube. These animals can live for many years and require extremely high lighting setups and also nearly perfect water conditions. They should not be in a nano cube for starters if at all. The animal, when it notes conditions are not right, will begin to move in an attempt to find a better 'spot'. When the anemone dies, it pollutes and poisons the entire tank. One person posted that when it died it got pulled into the suction grate and was shot into hundreds of pieces into the tank. Food for thought. AND..yes..'Nemo' can exist in a tank without an anemone. SH
woobycat
Apr 26 2005, 07:37 PM
Hey SH, Wooby checking in. Finally received my undamaged 24g Cube today. Just completed Tighaboy's first chamber PH mod and the flow is superb. I like the workaround that you did on yours. If I did not already have the tools to drill out the 1.1/8 hole, I would have used your method. Your tank is really coming along. This is the first time that I have checked in since my last post. Having to wait for the new cube was frustrating to say the least, and reading here would have been like pouring salt in the wounds(no pun intended)...... Temp on the tank is coming up fine.....I did put in an egg crate bottom to help support the LR which is due manana. I went with 3 inches on white sand and aggregate from an established reef tank. As soon as everything settles, I will post some pictures. Thanks again for all the encouragement and inspiration.......
steelhealr
Apr 26 2005, 09:23 PM
Way to go and welcome back Woobycat. I would have tried the bulkhead too if I had known before setup. Anyway, looking good for you...take your time setting up and don't feel funny re-arranging the rock a few times. Your plan sounds good. Will follow your progress. SH
gats
Apr 27 2005, 09:00 PM
Hey, Bogie....I have been following this thread since its beginning. I found a refugium light (the kind one would install under kitchen cabinets for a little extra lighting) that I have installed on my 24 cube. It is made by Hampton Bay, halogen accent light kit. It has 20 watts, 120 VAC. They are in single packs, fit directly in. Have been running it now for 2 weeks and algae has not deteriorated. If you want anything further, I'll post a pic.
steelhealr
Apr 27 2005, 11:24 PM
Sure Gats...post it here...where did you fit it in? Is it protected from the SW? Thanks. SH
steelhealr
Apr 27 2005, 11:34 PM
Update
All my parameters are 0 except my nitrates are doggedly hanging in there at 10ppm. I have Chemi-Pure and SeaGel in chamber one. But...when I went to check out my macroalgae tonite, it looked like in certain areas it was covered with a fine dust, almost like fine sawdust( the macro is still doing fine btw). I had the stock carbon in here and moved it to chamber one to try and do some cleaning back there..and..since I'm going away for a long weekend, I did a water change. I started siphoning over the LR rubble and a ton of flaky stuff starting coming up. It looked just like the stuff that would come out of your gravel in FW tanks. I barely feed the few fish that I have as I am super careful about that. Probably debris from the LR from cycling. I"ll continue to vacuum back there and see what happens to the nitrates.
Interesting thought...we all read so much here about the 'nitrate traps'...bioballs, sponges, ceramic beads. Yet...isn't a pile of LR rubble a mechanical filter of sorts?? Why can't this area become a 'nitrate trap' as well?? Food for thought. SH
gats
Apr 28 2005, 05:59 PM
I'm knew at posting pics, so bear with me. I have several I want to post.
gats
Apr 28 2005, 06:01 PM
Here is another one.
gats
Apr 28 2005, 06:03 PM
Side view.
gats
Apr 28 2005, 06:04 PM
Light turned on.
gats
Apr 28 2005, 06:06 PM
Lid partially closed.....side view
gats
Apr 28 2005, 06:07 PM
Night shot of chili coral
gats
Apr 28 2005, 06:08 PM
Day shot of Texas chili
Esper
Apr 29 2005, 03:39 AM
QUOTE
Originally posted by steelhealr
[B]Update
Interesting thought...we all read so much here about the 'nitrate traps'...bioballs, sponges, ceramic beads. Yet...isn't a pile of LR rubble a mechanical filter of sorts?? Why can't this area become a 'nitrate trap' as well?? Food for thought. SH [/B]
I am planning on running a small powerhead through the live rock rubble I will put in the back of my tank...Paletta's book and probably others emphasize flow through the rocks if they are to be used as filtration.
burtbollinger
Apr 29 2005, 10:58 AM
I just set up a 24G Nano DX two days ago...what stuff should I remove from the tank as to avoid nitrate traps. What should I leave in?
RandyO
Apr 29 2005, 01:46 PM
QUOTE
Originally posted by burtbollinger
I just set up a 24G Nano DX two days ago...what stuff should I remove from the tank as to avoid nitrate traps. What should I leave in?
What are your plans for the tank?
robbyrob
Apr 29 2005, 07:32 PM
very nice thread!!!!!!!!!!
dukester48
Apr 29 2005, 11:33 PM
Hey Gats.., I went to home depot and found that same light but Im curious how you connected yours.., if Im not mistaken it looks like you screwed it in.., but those chambers are full of wires arent they¿?¿. any info would be very helpful
CubeDude
Apr 30 2005, 08:26 AM
I did the same undercabinet light mod last weekend. I screwed mine in and angled it back. My hood looks different than gats. I was able to mount mine all the way to the top of the hood above my first chamber. I didn't have any fans or a box blocking mine.
I coated mine in silcone gel to help make it water resistant. So far all is great.
gats
Apr 30 2005, 09:23 AM
IMO, the chamber you are refering to is more like a pull box. There are two screws, one on the left and one on the right. If you pull off one-inch by six-inch cover, you will see your wires coming in to your lights. All I did was remove the left side of that screw, used one of the existing screws from the kit, took off lens for the light, placed screw in one of the holes, and put the lens back on. That way, you can swing the light where it needs to be, then tighten it down. Hope it helps.
As for your wires, just kind of run them over and up, and around the fan, or whatever, and do not pinch them. Then run your wires out where your pump wires are coming in.
See the attached picture of running the wires.
gats
Apr 30 2005, 09:48 AM
i mistakenly ended up starting a new thread on screw mounts for lights, and have confussed everyone.see attached pic
http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/showthread...4338#post494338
genuck
May 2 2005, 12:39 AM
SH
nice thread, glad to hear everything is going so well. How is the clown goby? is it eating? i am thinking of getting one and would like to know what you think of him. TIA
burtbollinger
May 2 2005, 02:23 PM
if I just want to host a maroon clownfish, a bi-color blenny, and a few simple corals...should I be freaking out about adding a refugarium? Also, I removed the ceramic tubes and all but 2 of the bio-balls. The temp. is steady at 77.4, and the 24 lbs of live rock was uncured, but had been curing for a week at the LFS. It's been in my new 24 nano since 4/23...I'm now starting to see reddish algae in the tank...how soon before I add the cleaning crew?
Also, the fish store guy said i could maybe just add calupra to the tank and make sure to trim it back every 3 or so weeks? Is that a bad idea?
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