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Catbus
So yeah, added anenome in for my clownfish to potentially sting the ich off in my tank with 150 mh 14k
etc etc, how do i get senor clown to get into his bta??
and params as i tested are
0 ammonia
0 phosphate
5 nitrate
tank has been set up for 4 months and a bit
xcode
It took my clown about a week to host the BTA.
Degener8
you cant make him he has to want to do it.

Feed the anemone and not the clown for a while as he goes in for food he may adopt it..
nor_cal_nano
Wow. Nems can help treat ich? I've never heard of that.
Degener8
QUOTE (nor_cal_nano @ Mar 14 2010, 10:20 AM) *
Wow. Nems can help treat ich? I've never heard of that.

Meh me either especially since the clown is obviously not hosting yet. I blame good health and water conditions.
nor_cal_nano
It sounds like something a Lfs might say to sell a nem to me...but what do I know.
imsobored152
print a picture of a clown lovin on an nem, and tape it to the side of the tank
Catbus
QUOTE (imsobored152 @ Mar 14 2010, 11:45 AM) *
print a picture of a clown lovin on an nem, and tape it to the side of the tank

I doubt that would work, well in theory i thought it would work by stinging off the parasite, am I wrong? and btw i haven't done my research on that one yet tongue.gif keyword "theory"
imsobored152
Ive heard of it working, no harm in trying. if it doesnt you've lost a whole piece of paper and some ink
bluefunelement
I bought a pair of anemone porcelain crabs-the clown pair came in to check them out then evicted them.
Catbus
so I have a little picture of the same type of anenome and clowns taped to the side of my tank beside the anenome. Yay for the aquarium of western australia tongue.gif
also does anyone know other tricks?
nemmy
QUOTE (Catbus @ Mar 14 2010, 01:25 PM) *
so I have a little picture of the same type of anenome and clowns taped to the side of my tank beside the anenome. Yay for the aquarium of western australia tongue.gif
also does anyone know other tricks?


Try to bait them in with food worked for me. They just rubbed a few tentacles and in a few days they were in it constantly.
My clowns spend all night in the anemones and a good part of the day playing in them. They really do have an obsession.
NaClCrocodile
Shine a moonlight on the nem, maybe? If it's the only thing they can see, they may investigate.
StevieT
ask it nicely
Catbus
QUOTE (StevieT @ Mar 14 2010, 12:36 PM) *
ask it nicely

with my luck that probably would work tongue.gif
kthehun89
Push his face in the anemone. Got my clowns to host in ~6 hrs
bluefunelement
QUOTE (kthehun89 @ Mar 14 2010, 01:12 PM) *
Push his face in the anemone. Got my clowns to host in ~6 hrs


um..no
RayWhisperer
WTF is all of this garbage? BTA's killing ich? Taping a picture to get a clown to host? Come on people!

First off, there are methods of treating ich. None of them will be nem friendly. More than likely, you'll have to get rid of the nem, or atleast move it, in order to treat the ich. Otherwise you'll have a dead nem and money flushed down the toilet.

Second, using a moonlight seems like a possible way to get a clown to host. That being said, I've never seen it work. Anyone who claims it has, needs to bear the burden of proof. How exactly do they know the clown wasn't just ready to go in and investigate? FWIW, my nem was directly under the moonlight by it's own choice and my clowns didn't host for more than a month. Time will tell if they will host it, or not. No other way, IME. Some never host a nem, it's a risk you took when buying it and the clowns.

OP, remove the nem, treat the ich, then try again. Treat the ich with the nem in place = dead nem. Don't treat the ich = probably dead clowns. The choice is yours.
imsobored152
dont knock the picture, unless youve tried it. Ive seen it work for several others member on other forums.
RayWhisperer
Yeah, sure. Like I said about burden of proof. Do you know what a female clown does when she sees competition? They don't hunker down in the nearest anemone.
Ryan_H
an anemone wouldn't kill ich, but the anemone, if the clown hosted it, could relieve stress on the fish, allowing it's immune system to fight off the parasite quickly. wouldn't exactly be my number 1 tactic though.
Dasani
I can't fullly proove this, but my dad said he read some where on foster and smith that when your lights go off and about an hour after it looks like your clown is asleep, that you could pick him up with your hand (since he is in the sleeping state) and gently place him in the anemone and after a few days or so, they should host it
kthehun89
After I introduced my clown to the anemone by showing it to him, i caught him sleeping in it. He didn't start hosting it during the day for awhile tho, maybe 6 days after. Just patience!
disaster999
im not sure if a nem cures ick or not, but i had 3 clowns in my tank before, the 2 that didnt have a nem to host died while my tomato clown in a BTA survived and is really healthy. so i do believe a nem helps the fish fight off ick.
SWEETLOU
I always soak my mysis shrimp in a garlic additive and it boosts the fishes immune system and fights off the ich. It has worked for me twice. Once when I first got my coral beauty. And the second time when I transfered tanks and all my fish got ich. So I just soak the shrimp in garlic everyday as a precaution. You can get the garlic at the LFS. Now as far as them nem I got lucky my clown pair took to my RBTA with in 10 min of it being added.
nor_cal_nano
QUOTE (disaster999 @ Mar 15 2010, 02:51 AM) *
im not sure if a nem cures ick or not, but i had 3 clowns in my tank before, the 2 that didnt have a nem to host died while my tomato clown in a BTA survived and is really healthy. so i do believe a nem helps the fish fight off ick.


I'm pretty sure its just the fact that the nem makes them feel MORE comfortable. Ich protozoans bury themselves within the fish and hard to reach places like the gills where the nem wont "sting." Otherwise, simple FW dips would cure ich...

Correct me if I'm wrong.
Marteen
Just take the clown out and put it in quarantine and treat with a copper based ich treatment. Get it fed and healthy and reintroduce, as long as it's healthy it should be able to fight off the ich.
nor_cal_nano
Almost finished treating my pair with hyposalinity alone in a QT. Copper seems unnecessary, but I'm a cheapskate.
cheryl jordan
QUOTE (kthehun89 @ Mar 14 2010, 01:12 PM) *
Push his face in the anemone. Got my clowns to host in ~6 hrs

Sorry bad idea. Not all clowns have been exposed to anemones, and have not developed a mucus coating that the anemone doesn't recognize at food, protein. Instead researchers think the mucus coating is made up of sugars.

Putting a clown that has no experience in anemones will end up with a dead clownfish.
nor_cal_nano
QUOTE (cheryl jordan @ Mar 16 2010, 06:58 PM) *
Sorry bad idea. Not all clowns have been exposed to anemones, and have not developed a mucus coating that the anemone doesn't recognize at food, protein. Instead researchers think the mucus coating is made up of sugars.

Putting a clown that has no experience in anemones will end up with a dead clownfish.


i thought that was a joke..

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