papatom
Mar 13 2010, 02:27 PM
so i left my house this morning at 430 am and my tank looked way better. i had a build up of cyano and on thursday i dosed it with red slime remover. well i just got off the phone with my gf and she said that it is everywhere again. and it is worse than be4. i am stuck at work and worried for my anemone. any advice about the red slime should i change out my lighting till its gone(96w quad bulb coral life) or should i take off my hob filter and clean it out and change the carbon need help dont want to lose my live stock
Billdemart
Mar 13 2010, 02:40 PM
What kind of anemone are you keeping under PC's? How old is your tank, what size, what filtration, etc. Water params?
papatom
Mar 13 2010, 02:58 PM
pink tipped anemone, three weeks, ammonia no2, no3 all at 0, i have sicce powerhead rated between 260 and 500gph i have it about a 1/4 of the way up and a marina s15 hob filter with fluval carbon in the mesh bag, 9lbs of live rock and 10lbs of live sand, 10 gal
kthehun89
Mar 13 2010, 02:59 PM
wow, anemone in there way too early with a pretty bad set up for an anemone. thats a good hint at why you're having cyano
papatom
Mar 13 2010, 03:06 PM
pink tipped anemone its a three week old 10gal with a sicce powerhead(rated 260-500gph i have it turned 1/4 way up)and a marina s15 slim filter with fluval carbon in a mesh bag.ammonia 0,no2 0, no3 0
sorry for the repost what would you recomend
kthehun89
Mar 13 2010, 03:15 PM
take everything back to the LFS and start your tank in the correct fashion.
Degener8
Mar 13 2010, 03:27 PM
QUOTE (kthehun89 @ Mar 13 2010, 02:15 PM)

take everything back to the LFS and start your tank in the correct fashion.
unrealistic and un helpful.
First off the cyano is eating up nutrients which is why your likely reading zero on all your tests.
Your tank is to new for an anemone (its likely still settling into the nitrogen cycle even tho tests read ok hence the algae blooms) most people recommend 4-6 months of tank maturity before getting an anemone as well I would recommend better lighting to optimize it more for your creature.
what fish are in the tank?
I would feed sparingly excess nutrients/phosphates are likely causes of cyano. Limit your photo period (run lights less) as to not feed it photosynthetically.
4 good hours of light will be enough to keep most/all things alive (thriving no alive yes)
recommend some phosban or like media also to help remove excess nutrients and possibly phosphate if there is some in the tank.
Are you using RO or Distilled water for your mix and top off?
Few hopefully helpful things to look at.
Do some searches on the forum for Cyan and you will come up with a ton of hits. Start reading.. knowledge is your friend the more you know the more effectively you can combat it.
papatom
Mar 13 2010, 06:31 PM
ok so i just got home this stuff doesnt look like cyano it is brown and is almost like a mat on my rocks an sand
its dark brown and is making the top layer of sand clump together
m05tw4nt3d
Mar 13 2010, 06:51 PM
QUOTE (papatom @ Mar 14 2010, 10:31 AM)

ok so i just got home this stuff doesnt look like cyano it is brown and is almost like a mat on my rocks an sand
its dark brown and is making the top layer of sand clump together
have you got a picture?
Lawnman
Mar 13 2010, 06:53 PM
It is diatoms.Normal with a very young tank.Usually it is from overfeeding and your system can not break down all the nutrients quick enough.Unless it is slimey brown and it could be Dinos but I don't think so.Pictures would be really helpful at this stage. You started stocking this tank a little to early.As other posters said you should of definately waited on the Anenome.I would cut back my feedings and make sure you have a good CUC. Keep up on the water changes run carbon and Phosguard to help suck up your phosphates which I believe are pretty high.
papatom
Mar 13 2010, 06:55 PM
RedMan25xl
Mar 13 2010, 06:55 PM
way to dive balls first into it. I hope you dont have kids
papatom
Mar 13 2010, 06:57 PM
Lawnman
Mar 13 2010, 07:00 PM
Edit* Forgot to add quit dosing Red slime remover and all the crap the LFS trys to sell you. It is a band aid get to the root of the problem and fix it. I will help you get to the root of the problem.System is young and you are overfeeding you have to much livestock for the age of the system.
QUOTE (papatom @ Mar 13 2010, 06:57 PM)

DIATOMS read my posts
When did you put sand,liverock and water in this tank?
Pickle010
Mar 13 2010, 07:01 PM
Diatoms... your tank is still cycling.
Once your cycle is complete your clean up crew will take care of it.
Lawnman
Mar 13 2010, 07:02 PM
But he has a Anenome in there Pickle.
papatom
Mar 13 2010, 07:03 PM
really thats diatoms wow thats part of the cycle right so should leave this stuff alone and do you think it is safe to take out the air stone...ok so how much should i be feeding and as far as live stock i can not take it back already asked around i am looking for some local reefer to take the anemone now..and what else should be taken out thanks for yalls help
Lawnman
Mar 13 2010, 07:06 PM
Papa help me help you LOL.How old is the tank?When did you start it up? What do you have in there such as fish,corals,etc?
papatom
Mar 13 2010, 07:14 PM
it is three weeks old and i have 6 asterea snails 2 nerite snails a pep shrimp a clown an anemone that i am finding a home for now oh and a tiny blue legged hermit that keeps hiding when i go to take it out
Lawnman
Mar 13 2010, 07:16 PM
WOW
papatom
Mar 13 2010, 07:18 PM
i guess i deserve that so what to do?
Billdemart
Mar 13 2010, 07:19 PM
QUOTE (papatom @ Mar 14 2010, 12:57 AM)

lol Lawnman already told you, it's diatoms. Please find a new home for your anemone and your clown and shrimp.
If I had to guess, they are all going to die. Soon.
I think you should give them away to someone who has a tank that can support them until you are ready for them. You gotta start off WAY slower.
Lawnman
Mar 13 2010, 07:25 PM
Well at first I thought this was a older tank and you were overfeeding.But I have to admit you kinda caught me off guard with the tank only being 3 weeks old and having all that livestock. The correct thing to do would be get the livestock out and let it finish its cycle.Then add the CUC. But if that is not a option then start doing small water changes every few days to soft cycle the tank and try to save the livestock.Last but not least do some more reading and ask questions.Research research research
papatom
Mar 13 2010, 07:30 PM
how long should i keep the lights on they are coral life 96 watt quad bulb and how much should i feed until i can get them into a better home
StevieT
Mar 13 2010, 10:07 PM
looks to me like the problem is dry water, not the age of the tank
DHaut
Mar 13 2010, 10:19 PM
QUOTE (StevieT @ Mar 13 2010, 10:07 PM)

looks to me like the problem is dry water, not the age of the tank
+1 to dry water. this is going to be a tough fight. it was all my chemipure could do to overcome it.
papatom
Mar 13 2010, 10:28 PM
what is dry water
violinist
Mar 13 2010, 10:35 PM
At this point, with so much blood in the water, more and more sharks will arrive to join in on the feast. IT appears your Beginner's Forum shark repellent has worn off as well. Having received good advice, it's best to get out of the water now and act on it.
nemmy
Mar 13 2010, 10:48 PM
QUOTE (papatom @ Mar 13 2010, 10:28 PM)

what is dry water
Its a running joke here on nano-reef about chemi-pure elite
Pickle010
Mar 13 2010, 11:43 PM
Chemi-Pure is no laughing matter.
Billdemart
Mar 14 2010, 09:15 AM
QUOTE (DHaut @ Mar 14 2010, 04:19 AM)

+1 to dry water. this is going to be a tough fight. it was all my chemipure could do to overcome it.
Does the regular Chemi-Pure combat dry water or do you have to run Elite?
Degener8
Mar 14 2010, 09:22 AM
Regular works for a starter solution,, it just makes it damp though.
papatom
Mar 14 2010, 09:24 AM
sorry to interrupt the fun and games but good news i found a home for the anemone
Billdemart
Mar 14 2010, 09:43 AM
QUOTE (papatom @ Mar 14 2010, 03:24 PM)

sorry to interrupt the fun and games but good news i found a home for the anemone
That is good to hear. What about the fish and the shrimp?
What are all your water parameters right now?
papatom
Mar 14 2010, 09:46 AM
not so much but the fish might have to go with the anemone cause ive been watching him tooday and he is "rolling around" in and around the anemone
cruiZe
Mar 14 2010, 09:51 AM
the clown rolling around in the nem is called hosting. Its fun for them. If you can get them to go together thats good, but he will be ok without his nem.
in my experience peppermints are pretty fragile too, so watch out for him.
Darksoul
Mar 14 2010, 09:57 AM
QUOTE (cruiZe @ Mar 14 2010, 06:51 AM)

the clown rolling around in the nem is called hosting. Its fun for them. If you can get them to go together thats good, but he will be ok without his nem.
in my experience peppermints are pretty fragile too, so watch out for him.
Peppermints fragile?. LIES. Here is proof:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5ew68SOS6I*Cough* Um.. they are fragile I guess *Shrug*.
StevieT
Mar 14 2010, 12:31 PM
QUOTE (Billdemart @ Mar 14 2010, 08:15 AM)

Does the regular Chemi-Pure combat dry water or do you have to run Elite?
I don't think there every was a clear cut answer
cruiZe
Mar 14 2010, 01:58 PM
QUOTE (Darksoul @ Mar 14 2010, 10:57 AM)

Peppermints fragile?. LIES. Here is proof...
i meant sensitive to changes in water chemistry, or unstable tanks. My guess out of the nem, clown and pep, the clown would be the most hardy. the nem of course being the least.
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