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Dani3d
Hi just wanted to share my experience with this food. I have a blueberry gorgonian and a red sponge, flame scallop and a feather duster.

I know the blueberry gorgonian does not have much chance of survival at all but I wanted to try to give it the best anyway and not to let it starve, so I placed an order for the Fauna Marin Ultra Seafan and Ultra Min F. When I bought the gorgonian the store owner who is a biologist told me they were easy to keep if given the right food like oyster eggs. So I also bought oysterfeast and rotifeast but I did not get the feeding response that I was hoping for and the polyps where closing pretty quick and not hopening for long.

My gorgonian was closing up more and more. When I received the food from Fauna Marin, I put both the Ultra Saefan and Ultra Min F in the water and immediatly the gorgonian started to open and remained open nearly all day. I put the food a few times per day and I could see the small polyp closing on the food and actualy eating it, even the larger particles. So there is a great feeding response from this food, best I have had so far with any food I bought for it.

Today I saw a bit of new tissue grow on the base of the gorgonian so that's good because at the begining 2 weeks ago, it was losing tissue to tissue necrosis at a few places. I am still worried that it will not be enough but at least I am doing my best for it.

If I could just put it back in its original environement in the ocean then I would do it right away! but this is the next best thing I can do.

One drawback is the food which is in powder does not dissolve well in the water and it is best to mix it a bit with tank water before putting it in the water. My flame scallop and feather duster also appreciate the feeding regime.

I have the blueberry gorgonian for 2 weeks now and will post update on its progress, good or bad, as time pass. I am not too hopefull about this but you never know. On the Fauna Marin bottle it is written that we can keep any gorgonian with this food, so I will see.

I have also bought a back issue of Coral Magasine on gorgonians and it was very informative. They say that it is not necessary to have that much food suspended in the water but regularity is the key and type of food.

They also state that putting a gorgonian that was raised in some type of flow with certain direction of flow into a different type of flow will surely mean its death but since we have no way to know what type of flow and direction of flow the animal was in its native environment, then it's pretty much down to luck. I don't know if that is true or not but that was a bit discouraging. So many things that these animals need to survive that it is obvious why it is nearly impossible to keep the non-symbiotics animals.

They also suggest a few species that are very beautiful but symbiotics and easy to keep. The blueberry gorgonian is the hardest one and nearly impossible to keep alive but the key seem to be getting a VERY healthy subject to begin with.

Good luck to all those who have one and if you did not do that already, I suggest trying Fauna marin food for gorgonian. Great feeding response.




organism
Good review, is there any chance that you can post up pics at regular intervals to see how it fixes up and grows back? I have people ask me about keeping gorgonians all the time and it would be a great thread to be able to direct them to smile.gif
Dani3d
Ok I will try to do that. Gorgonians are very hard to keep though and I don't have much hope for mine as I read everywhere that even with lots of food and care they just die anyway and they are impossible to keep.

I would not suggest keeping a blueberry gorgonian but for other gorgonians this food should work very well.



QUOTE (organism @ Mar 10 2010, 05:14 PM) *
Good review, is there any chance that you can post up pics at regular intervals to see how it fixes up and grows back? I have people ask me about keeping gorgonians all the time and it would be a great thread to be able to direct them to smile.gif

myjohnson
Sorry for bringing up an old thread....

any chance of any update?
anemone fan
My Non-photos like cyclopeeze
myjohnson
Ordered the complete line of fauna merin gorg system.

Hopefully this will get my gorg more responsive.

I have a "simple" to keep yellow gorg and no continuous feeding system.

Under the current food supply they are not opening up every night to eat.

I'm using oysterfest/rotifest and reef chili.

I need to get shellfish diet but don't know where to order it.
Uhuru
You don't need shellfish diet unless your goal is just to increase live microfauna in your tank. You can do that pretty good with just the powder foods though. Cyclopeeze is too big for most gorgs. Works good as a "smelling sauce" to get them to open up though. Most gorg food is going to be microscopic.
Dani3d
yes, my blueberry gorgonian died. I tried feeding it like crazy, 10 or more times per day and water quality was still top notchin my 21 gallons because I have a good skimmer rated 100 gallons, but to no avail...it just slowly died. I have tried cyclopeeze but the polyp would not capture this and eat it as it is too big.

I did manage to keep a purple whip gorgonial healthy for 6 months and sold it back to the LFS who sold it to me as they wanted it back for their hypo tank. It was very healhty but I sold it because it was polluting my whole tank for just one gorgonian. They really need dedicated tank with very good skimming.

That purple whip managed to eat some cyclopeeze but often it could not swallow them and would just try and after some time just release them. Fauna marin, reefroid and coral frenzy was what I gave mostly and rotifeast, marine snow, oyster eggs as well as phytoplankton. Lots of food needed to keep that thing alive.

Now I have a photosynthetic gorgonian and it only eat once is a while when I feed my corals. The tank stay a lot cleaner for my SPS.

I have a yellow spiny gorgonian in my 21 gallons nano now and it's growing fast although it is supposed to be non-photosynthetic. Not sure about that juging how fast it grow. Some are definitly easier than others and I would avoid the blueberry gorgonian completely.


QUOTE (myjohnson @ Dec 8 2010, 04:09 PM) *
Sorry for bring up an old thread....

any chance of any update?
myjohnson
QUOTE (Uhuru @ Dec 11 2010, 11:10 AM) *
You don't need shellfish diet unless your goal is just to increase live microfauna in your tank. You can do that pretty good with just the powder foods though. Cyclopeeze is too big for most gorgs. Works good as a "smelling sauce" to get them to open up though. Most gorg food is going to be microscopic.



What else do you recommend I feed my yellow gorg?

Should FM products do the trick?



QUOTE (Dani3d @ Dec 11 2010, 12:05 PM) *
I have a yellow spiny gorgonian in my 21 gallons nano now and it's growing fast although it is supposed to be non-photosynthetic. Not sure about that juging how fast it grow. Some are definitly easier than others and I would avoid the blueberry gorgonian completely.


can you post a picture?

I think we have the same NPS gorg.

What are you feeding it?
Uhuru
Yes you can keep most non-photo gorgs solely on FM foods. Water quality and flow are equally important. They have to be happy before they eat.

You can also use things like oyster feast and cyclopeeze to get them to open up first. I always think of feeding as 2 parts. First you have to get them to open, then you have to get them the correct size food.

I don't know how many times a day you are feeding but this is also important.

I am currently attempting to keep a blueberry gorg. When I first got it, the tentacles were short and stubby, now they have become very long. Others have noticed this before, and it seems to be a good sign, but necessarily associated with long term success.
myjohnson
QUOTE (Uhuru @ Dec 14 2010, 11:22 AM) *
Yes you can keep most non-photo gorgs solely on FM foods. Water quality and flow are equally important. They have to be happy before they eat.

You can also use things like oyster feast and cyclopeeze to get them to open up first. I always think of feeding as 2 parts. First you have to get them to open, then you have to get them the correct size food.

I don't know how many times a day you are feeding but this is also important.

I am currently attempting to keep a blueberry gorg. When I first got it, the tentacles were short and stubby, now they have become very long. Others have noticed this before, and it seems to be a good sign, but necessarily associated with long term success.


Yeah, I'm doing this exact same thing. I use oyster feast to get it to open. Then I target feed it reef chili.

I feed it from 6pm-12pm. Once about every 30 mins.

Some nights it's more responsive then others.

I hope the FM product will make it happier. Also, I think flow might be an issue right now.

I have my mp10 on the back way. I have the gorg sitting next to the wetside along the back wall on a frag rack. It's not getting that flow right in front of it. I'm thinking about mounting it soon.

Don't know about the gorg, but my sun coral and dendros are very happy.

Thanks for the tips, again. biggrin.gif

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