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dylan1464
QUOTE (Pickle010 @ Feb 6 2011, 01:45 PM) *
The new fish should be here on Tuesday fingersx01.gif

I used a cheap plastic jug from smart and final and used a soldering iron to melt several holes in it. I cut the bottom out and left a X of plastic material through the middle.

Then placed a piece of LR in the cap before putting it on... and set it upside down in the tank. As far as flow I set it more towards the front of the tank and angled a power head so that some of the flow was hitting it. You don't ned a lot going through it.

So far it's been working pretty well. No mess and the water quality is pretty good.

That will go away once I get those tanks plumbed though. It's just a temp fix.


it will be there tuesday wink.gif
mrbigshot
Amphiprion chrysopterus, or Chyrogaster?
Pickle010
QUOTE (mrbigshot @ Feb 7 2011, 06:37 AM) *
Amphiprion chrysopterus, or Chyrogaster?



Neither these are more common - just new to me. tongue.gif
mrbigshot
you said there not currently being breed right? (no designer clowns or do they count?)
Lalani
I know what they are. cool.gif
nanoty
QUOTE (Lalani @ Feb 7 2011, 10:49 AM) *
I know what they are. cool.gif

Me too....




Not really...........Im not cool enough I guess sad.gif
Pickle010
QUOTE (mrbigshot @ Feb 7 2011, 08:36 AM) *
you said there not currently being breed right? (no designer clowns or do they count?)



No one here is breeding them - as in no one on N-R. OK... well at least one of them. That I know of and yes they are "designer" clowns.

I should be getting a tracking number this morning - when I get the number I'll let you all know what I'm getting.

QUOTE (nanoty @ Feb 7 2011, 09:09 AM) *
Not really...........Im not cool enough I guess sad.gif



You do have a really nice rack though!
Pickle010
OK.. well I just got my tracking number and the fish should be here around 10:30 tomorrow.

First one I'm getting is a little more comon but has always been a favorite of mine which is a Picasso.

The second - which I know are tank bred but I haven't seen here before is the Fancy White Clown. The one I'm getting is just like this one:

http://www.bluezooaquatics.com/productdeta...=9716&did=1

I'll post pictures tomorrow night after I get them home and settled in.
mrbigshot
are you going to pair the picasso with an onyx and the fancy with a b/w occellaris? that would keep the blood lines correct. i was looking at those on bluezoo last night, they have really nice ones for sure. every time i find fancy's they dont have the nice connecting top bar, they just look like mocha clowns.

did you buy from the top 50 wysiwyg section? the ones i find always look like these ones http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgosH1nArbo
Pickle010
QUOTE (mrbigshot @ Feb 7 2011, 12:48 PM) *
are you going to pair the picasso with an onyx and the fancy with a b/w occellaris? that would keep the blood lines correct. i was looking at those on bluezoo last night, they have really nice ones for sure. every time i find fancy's they dont have the nice connecting top bar, they just look like mocha clowns.

did you buy from the top 50 wysiwyg section? the ones i find always look like these ones http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgosH1nArbo


The Picasso will go with a onyx but the fancy I planned on a orange O - I didn't think there was any B&W in the line, everything I see stated that they are a cross between an A. ocellaris and a Wyoming White - but doesn't make any mention of B&W A. ocellaris.

I'm not getting them from Bluezoo - just used the pic as refence since it's one of cleanest I could find. I'm actually getting them from someone else on here.
Mini-Dude
I know who he's getting them from. cool.gif
Pickle010
QUOTE (Mini-Dude @ Feb 7 2011, 02:06 PM) *
I know who he's getting them from. cool.gif



Hey Mini-Dude - saw your thread in the lounge - bummer bro. But you only have until July or so right?

dylan1464
pickle you must be sooo excited lol
Mini-Dude
QUOTE (Pickle010 @ Feb 7 2011, 08:36 PM) *
Hey Mini-Dude - saw your thread in the lounge - bummer bro. But you only have until July or so right?


Yeah, it's ok I have till June I can wait. That's also when I'm hoping to get my first tank started happydance.gif
Pickle010
QUOTE (dylan1464 @ Feb 7 2011, 06:11 PM) *
pickle you must be sooo excited lol



Yeah I am... just hope they make it alright.

Fedex says they'll be here by 10:30 so we'll see then!

QUOTE (Mini-Dude @ Feb 7 2011, 06:37 PM) *
Yeah, it's ok I have till June I can wait. That's also when I'm hoping to get my first tank started happydance.gif



Yeah.. it's not that far away - besides enjoy the next few months of your childhood before the lounge taints you and changes you forever. It a shame... you seem like such a good kid.

mrbigshot
very nice looking clowns for sure. i myself would like a pair.

i mentioned the b/w because of what ive read on the internet. but ive seen contradicting information thats supposed to be from sa themselves, a rep said they were a retired ora pair that came from divers den that showed a heavy black/ dusty outline around one of the fishes stripes. they were both regular orange ocellaris.

the other i have seen was supposedly told by matt carberry president of sa, he said they were selectively bred to show more black, similar to what we seen in this thread a few months ago, there is no way those fish came from 2 orange ocellaris.
http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?...57282&st=20
Mini-Dude
[quote name='Pickle010' date='Feb 7 2011, 11:15 pm post




Yeah.. it's not that far away - besides enjoy the next few months of your childhood before the lounge taints you and changes you forever. It a shame... you seem like such a good kid.
[/quote]

Thanks Pickle!
Pickle010
QUOTE (mrbigshot @ Feb 7 2011, 10:27 PM) *
very nice looking clowns for sure. i myself would like a pair.

i mentioned the b/w because of what ive read on the internet. but ive seen contradicting information thats supposed to be from sa themselves, a rep said they were a retired ora pair that came from divers den that showed a heavy black/ dusty outline around one of the fishes stripes. they were both regular orange ocellaris.

the other i have seen was supposedly told by matt carberry president of sa, he said they were selectively bred to show more black, similar to what we seen in this thread a few months ago, there is no way those fish came from 2 orange ocellaris.
http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?...57282&st=20



Interesting for sure - at first I thought you where talking about the Smores but then I saw the last post. I'll have to see if Hyperboy can tear himself away from his busy life these days and maybe chime in on what I should pair her with.



QUOTE (Mini-Dude @ Feb 8 2011, 04:35 AM) *
[quote name='Pickle010' date='Feb 7 2011, 11:15 pm post




Yeah.. it's not that far away - besides enjoy the next few months of your childhood before the lounge taints you and changes you forever. It a shame... you seem like such a good kid.


Thanks Pickle!



No worries - You setting up a tank yet or still doing your research? Take your time and do all the reading you can. Lots of great people on here that will help you out. Just don't turn into a know it all smart ass.
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dylan1464
QUOTE (Pickle010 @ Feb 8 2011, 09:45 AM) *
No worries - You setting up a tank yet or still doing your research? Take your time and do all the reading you can. Lots of great people on here that will help you out. Just don't turn into a know it all smart ass.
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exactly i dont see a point in joining a forum if you plan on being rude to everyone....im all about keeping the hobby going no need to be a smart ass it gets you no where in life.

Eileen
I have 2 pairs of the fancy ocellaris in my classroom tanks that I got directly from SA for our classroom breeding program. They are really beautiful fish with various amounts of black (they are still young) and their orange is more of a reddish orange. I'll try to remember to post pics of them next week when I return to school. I'm home all of this week recovering (was in the hospital for 6 days with a collapsed lung sad.gif ).

Looking forward to see your pics, Pickle. How old are yours?
mrbigshot
did they come? did they come?

where are the pictures
Pickle010
QUOTE (dylan1464 @ Feb 8 2011, 07:19 AM) *
exactly i dont see a point in joining a forum if you plan on being rude to everyone....im all about keeping the hobby going no need to be a smart ass it gets you no where in life.



I'm going to mark this post and remind you of it in a year!

QUOTE (mrbigshot @ Feb 8 2011, 08:08 AM) *
did they come? did they come?

where are the pictures



Fedex is already over an hour late mad.gif


I won't be able to get pictures up till tonight though

QUOTE (Eileen @ Feb 8 2011, 08:07 AM) *
I have 2 pairs of the fancy ocellaris in my classroom tanks that I got directly from SA for our classroom breeding program. They are really beautiful fish with various amounts of black (they are still young) and their orange is more of a reddish orange. I'll try to remember to post pics of them next week when I return to school. I'm home all of this week recovering (was in the hospital for 6 days with a collapsed lung sad.gif ).

Looking forward to see your pics, Pickle. How old are yours?



Collapsed Lung? OMG... that can't be good. Hope you are feeling better.

The Picasso is an adult - I believe the Fancy is still a Juvi
Pickle010
Still no Fedex - they are making me nutz! rant01.gif
Pickle010
Just saw the Fedex guy in my parking lot and got all excited... only to watch him drive right on through.

Turns out it was the "ground" truck and I'm waiting on the "overnight guy" SON OF A $%##%$%$
Lalani
Sucks. My Fedex guy didn't get here until after 4pm too... lost my male snowflake. :/
UPS seems to be much more prompt and always arrives before noon or 1pm at the latest.
Eileen
That's pretty bad when the ground guy makes it there before the overnight guy! And you posted that at 2:00 PST, right? Isn't there some type of guarantee that they're supposed to be there by 10:30 a.m. or within x number of minutes of that time?
Pickle010
Well neighter one made it... I honestly don't think it was the time in the bag as it was the packaging. The top piece of styro didn't cover the entire top of the box - there was a 1" gap in the lid and it wasn't taped on or anything just set on top. Judging by the cloudiness of the water and smell in my office - I don't think they made it out of their origin alive.

I already spoke to the shipper and he is going to make it right. He's getting the correct shipping box and will send out two new fish once he has the materials.

Unfortunately he left it to someone else in the shop to pack them and the person really did a terrible job.

It's really a shame - they were really beautiful fish.

Vodka tonic anyone?



QUOTE (Eileen @ Feb 8 2011, 02:53 PM) *
That's pretty bad when the ground guy makes it there before the overnight guy! And you posted that at 2:00 PST, right? Isn't there some type of guarantee that they're supposed to be there by 10:30 a.m. or within x number of minutes of that time?



I'm not sure if the sender would have a claim with Fedex if he had a gaurantee on arrival time. I've had live fish shipped here to office before and they've all come in the afternoon - never been a problem.
Mini-Dude
QUOTE (Pickle010 @ Feb 8 2011, 07:42 PM) *
Well neighter one made it... I honestly don't think it was the time in the bag as it was the packaging. The top piece of styro didn't cover the entire top of the box - there was a 1" gap in the lid and it wasn't taped on or anything just set on top. Judging by the cloudiness of the water and smell in my office - I don't think they made it out of their origin alive.

I already spoke to the shipper and he is going to make it right. He's getting the correct shipping box and will send out two new fish once he has the materials.

Unfortunately he left it to someone else in the shop to pack them and the person really did a terrible job.

It's really a shame - they were really beautiful fish.

Vodka tonic anyone?






I'm not sure if the sender would have a claim with Fedex if he had a gaurantee on arrival time. I've had live fish shipped here to office before and they've all come in the afternoon - never been a problem.



That's sucks Pick. I'm sure they were very cool.
nanoty
Damnit Pickle that sucks. Things like this are making me more and more nervous about shipping the clowns I bought. Anyone for a road trip to San Antonio?
Eileen
Pickles, I am REALLY sorry to hear that they didn't make it. It's bad enough that they were late and you had to sit there and keep wondering when they'd arrive, but to finally get them and then find them dead. I know you must be so bummed right now. Again, SO SORRY TO HEAR THIS. tears01.gif
Pickle010
QUOTE (nanoty @ Feb 8 2011, 05:08 PM) *
Damnit Pickle that sucks. Things like this are making me more and more nervous about shipping the clowns I bought. Anyone for a road trip to San Antonio?



You just got to pack them right... is all. The person I'm getting them from knows what he is doing - unfortunately the guy he had pack them didn't. It really was a bad job - besides the lose fitting lid - it wasn't taped in place and inside the box there wasn't any newspaper - just random pieces of styrofoam wedged between the bags and sides. So the gap left all kiinds of room for the heat to escape and the cold to get in.

The temp of the water was in the low 60's when I got them - but I'm sure it got much colder before it left the east coast and more than likely warmed up here as it sat on the truck.

So we are going to try again once he has the correct packing materials - I know it will go much better the next time.

Pickle010
I was thinking more about what you said Ty on my drive home from work... the nervous about shipping thing... and honestly when it boils down to it, it will probably happen to all of us. You know shipping fish and having them arrive DOA.

I guess the difference is how you handle it.

For this seller, I can say he's been really great so far. The communication has been outstanding, he even warned me last night that he had a bad feeling about this shipment and when I called him he was all over it and apologetic. Said he'd make it right and handle the next shipment himself.

Yeah, I'm still bummed as the two that died today where my first picks but #### happens. I'm still confident that the guy will do his best to get me some nice fish and try to make up for it.

I guess that's all we can really do - as a buyer i get taken care of and as a seller I get a lesson on how to treat others.

Lalani
Awww sad.gif
Pickle010
QUOTE (Lalani @ Feb 8 2011, 07:31 PM) *
Awww sad.gif


ikr? tears01.gif
mrbigshot
did they send overnight or spend the extra for priority overnight.

overnight is by end next buisness day.
priority overnight is by 10:30 most location next buisness day.

that sucks, its a good thing the shipper is making it right.
Pickle010
QUOTE (mrbigshot @ Feb 8 2011, 10:36 PM) *
did they send overnight or spend the extra for priority overnight.

overnight is by end next buisness day.
priority overnight is by 10:30 most location next buisness day.

that sucks, its a good thing the shipper is making it right.



I'm not sure - I honestly think the outcome would of been the same with the packaging though. He's a stand up guy so I'm sure it's going to work out in the end.

dylan1464
QUOTE (mrbigshot @ Feb 9 2011, 01:36 AM) *
did they send overnight or spend the extra for priority overnight.

overnight is by end next buisness day.
priority overnight is by 10:30 most location next buisness day.

that sucks, its a good thing the shipper is making it right.


yes priority overnight but for some reason fedex was completely screw up today...
mrbigshot
stupid fedex. i hope the next ones arive perfect.
Mini-Dude
Yeah, its just one of those things. Who are you planning to pair them with?
ericm1205
Eileen. my Chrysopterus and Bicinctus arrive tomorrow!! yay! ibluewater.com is the best place to get clowns from. ill post some pics after acclimation. they are calling once a week for a month to see how they are doing. my Tricinctus pair are arriving in 2 weeks after they complete their 8 week QT.
Sorry to hear about your hospital visit. i hate that place. hope you are feeling better.


Pickle, sucks soo bad about loosing the fishies. i simply hate fedex. i lost soo many corals from them its not funny. i never got a package on time. if the person shipping via fedex i make them hold it at the facility and i got pick up in the morning. Fedex does not allow shipping of live items. they will ship it but they will not allow a claim for dead items. i like UPS better. less rides the fish get the better.

i like the fancy clown you are getting. i was thinking to myself on what i would pair them with if it was me, and like someone said before i would pair it with a Darwin. it seems that the fist could use a little more black in their coloring.
FishEyeAquaculture
Pair with a Darwin!!!!!!!!
Mini-Dude
QUOTE (hyperboy @ Feb 9 2011, 02:56 PM) *
Pair with a Darwin!!!!!!!!


Agreed!
Pickle010
QUOTE (ericm1205 @ Feb 9 2011, 09:42 AM) *
i like the fancy clown you are getting. i was thinking to myself on what i would pair them with if it was me, and like someone said before i would pair it with a Darwin. it seems that the fist could use a little more black in their coloring.


I'm a huge fan of the Darwins - deffinately something to consider!
Mini-Dude
I'm a big fan of them too. I'm thinking about getting a pair for the NC 28 I'm gonna get.
ericm1205
yeah i love them too. i got a pair of them and i have 2 more paired with snowflakes. my one female looks like a mini orca whale she is so big.
Pickle010
QUOTE (ericm1205 @ Feb 9 2011, 12:29 PM) *
yeah i love them too. i got a pair of them and i have 2 more paired with snowflakes. my one female looks like a mini orca whale she is so big.



Do you call her Shamu?
Eileen
Ericm1205, are your bicinctus WC or TR? Do share pics after they settle! Would also love to see pics of your Fancys...how old are they and how long have you had them?

I don't think I'd breed them with darwins because most of them have SO much black when they mature anyway. See the pic from this thread on MOFIB.
http://www.marinebreeder.org/phpbb/viewtop...=169&t=8423
ericm1205
QUOTE (Eileen @ Feb 9 2011, 07:35 PM) *
Ericm1205, are your bicinctus WC or TR? Do share pics after they settle! Would also love to see pics of your Fancys...how old are they and how long have you had them?

I don't think I'd breed them with darwins because most of them have SO much black when they mature anyway. See the pic from this thread on MOFIB.
http://www.marinebreeder.org/phpbb/viewtop...=169&t=8423


the Bi's are TR. they are damn near impossible to collect WC anymore. i will get pics up after acclimation. i dont have any fancy's, wish i didnt.
Pickle010
Post da pics... I want to see them as well!
FishEyeAquaculture
QUOTE (Pickle010 @ Feb 10 2011, 10:57 AM) *
Post da pics... I want to see them as well!


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