So I just fragged up about half of my BN colony. Well my dumbself cracked open my bostonaquafarms glue for the first time... That stuff is garbage! I think I would have had better luck using my own spit. Seriously it ran all over the place, it is the consistency of water. Thankfully almost all the frags were big enough to sit in the egg crate. Unfortunately I will have to go buy some random super glue that isnt even for reefing!

The "reefing" glues are all garbage to me. I use krazy glue or loctite

I use krazy glue also

i was big on krazy glue for awhile, but Loctite is awesome....I have yet to glue myself to anything with it. I usually end up with more on my hand then in the project.

Really? I like the BAF glue.

Yeah, I had always used loctite. There was one other I had used that was a really good "reefing" glue. I read the back of the BAF glue, and it says you should use it with the BAF accelerant! Way to try and get people to spend more money on your crap.

I found the one I had used before. Reef glue gel from Oceans wonders. I would say it is on par with the loctite.

Whats so special about these "reef" glues? Whats supposed to make them better than any super glue gel? I've used all sorts of super glue gel and haven't had a problem yet.

Nothing apparently, I just thought it would work better. Across the front label it says THICKER. Yeah right...

What makes the reefing glue better is NOTHING except you get a bigger bottle and it is cheaper. I used this Boston Aquatic Reefing glue that was purple and it was super thick.I got it from Petsolutions.


Perm I always wanted to ask you is that you in your Avatar?

It is me! Its too bad the pic isnt bigger, I was make a ridiculous face when the pic was taken. Im going to pick up some loctite tonight for the rest of my stick fragging tomorrow.

What are you standing in? (Picture)

It is a gondola going up the side of a mountain in west Texas.

I like oceans wonders, you can get it from thier site or on ebay. I guy it on ebay and it is thick and cheaper then buying the locktite.

BSI IC-GEL, only stuff i'll ever use. Love it. Comes out thick, doesn't run, holds strong, and the tube lasts for a lot of fraggin.

http://www.bsi-inc.com/Pages/hobby/ca.html

All I use is BAF glue, and it's phenomenal. They also have the superglue gel in a toothpaste tube which is the kind that you're looking for but I guarantee you that it's not what you want for SPS. Yes, you need the glue accelerant to go with their thinner superglue gel, but that's the only way to safely and effectively glue own SPS for the fastest recovery and growth after fragging.

There's a video on the site in my sig called "fragging a birdsnest" in the tutorials section that'll show you how unbelievably fast that glue you're using will glue down SPS when used with an accelerant, I think it took me like 3 minutes or so to frag and glue down 20+ birdsnest frags. It also lasts me through about 1000+ frags, so it's about 100x cheaper and 10x faster to set than the thick gel you're used to once all is said and done. Their glue and accelerant combo has saved me easily $10k in lower frag costs and faster growth in the last three years or so, it's the only thing that nearly every commercial farm I know of uses in their greenhouses for SPS frags, and there's a good reason for that, it works

You would know better than I. I will have to check out you sig.

I know exactly where you're coming from though, the first time that I tried that glue I was like WTF?! Now I don't know what I'd do without it, I don't even use the gel for anything anymore, too messy and way too expensive in the long run

I'm going to try that stuff out then. I love the BSI superglue gel but it IS messy and I can see how in the long run it will be way more expensive. I guess since I'm not fragging at a huge volume yet, that I don't notice it as much.

Yeah, I used to go through like an entire box of the bsi gel a month and stress tons of SPS with it, once I switched to the thinner gel in the bottles with the accelerator I'd only go through one of those a month and the SPS would be encrusting onto the plugs within a week and a half at most. Saved me tons of money in the long run.

fyi, the link through the tutorials section is ok but there's a fragging a birdsnest link on the front page that leads to the toadstool video.

I just get dollar store glue. really, it works good and is like 5 bucks for a whole pack of glue

+1 TLF reef glue
I like my glue like I like my women

what kind of dollar store are you shoppin at? cuz i pay a DOLLAR for a 3 pack.
i like the loctite gel, but bang for the buck, the dollar store stuff is great, one tube just doesnt last long, and i always look like some sort of glue sniffing fiend buyin 20 dollars worth at a time

I know, that's how I feel. I go and get like 10 of the 3-packs at a time along with other random things. It is the dollar store though, so there is always someone making a stranger purchase.

So nice for zoanthids,
buy yourself a 30 gram tube on ebay for $8 shipped and get the honey thickness.

True, but you can conservatively glue 10x the zoanthids frags with the BAF glue + accelerator than you can with the gel. I've done 600 frags so far in the last month and a half and am 3/4 tube down on the one tube of glue... It'll probably clear at least 900 by the time it's done

How many zoanthids frags are you getting per tube of bsi gel, out of curiosity?

This is what I use....

http://www.loctiteproducts.com/products/de...15&plid=196

I get it from work so it's no cost to me. It works very well, and is nice and thick.

I have no idea,
I think it will go really far because it's a nice gel.
Being a 30 gram tube for $8 shipped to Hawaii it's a great deal.
I've done a few frags,
not a ton.
Like a drop for a 5 polyp frag...
Crap that's a lot of frags per tube..

The gel is nice for other applications,
like gluing $1 coins to the concrete then telling ym younger siblings to remove it

I think you'll be really surprised if you actually start counting out how many you make, chances are really good that you're not hitting 10% the amount that you could with the thinner glue plus accelerator. I guarantee you that you're not hitting 20%, trust me I was going through 20+ tubes of BSI gel a month before I switched to the other kind, and the day I did I was thinking wow, that's going to save me a ton of money... And I was even getting the BSI tubes wholesale at $4.50 a piece.

The thick loctite/bsi gel/dollar store glue will never even come close to the amount of frags you can hit with the thinner gel plus accelerator, it's simply not physically possible due to the mass of glue that each kind dispenses for efficiency. If anyone wants to debate otherwise please start off with "I've tried them both and..." There's a reason no farms of any decent size use the bsi super glue gel tubes anymore

And actually, those smaller, cheaper loctite tubes are so ineffiecient that it would take well over $100 of those to do what $20 of the gel plus accelerator can, probably over $200.