Hello all, I need a little help.

I've been trying to find a couple Sigma lenses with Sigma mounts for some time online, as in-store shopping doesn't work for me-- the nearest store is too far away for my busy schedule.

I haven't been able to find either of these two lenses on (Edit: Amazon,) Adrorama, B&H, Abes of Maine and not even on Ebay. They all carry the lenses in Canon/Nikon/Sony/Pentax mounts, but not for good old Sigma.

Can you guys suggest some more reputable internet store-fronts that I could try?


BTW these are the two lenses (in order of desire)
1) Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 IF EX DG HSM (sigma mount!)
2) Sigma 17-70mm F2.8-4 DC Macro OS HSM (sigma mount!)

I've found one site that has them, photo4less.com, but the store has really mixed ratings....mostly 5 stars, and some 1 stars with a terrible story behind the rating-- I'd like to save ordering from this store as a last resort unless anyone can convince me otherwise!

Thanks in advance,
MR.FEESH

amazon?

Ooops sorry, forgot to add that one in-- they don't carry them either.

http://www.amazon.com/Sigma-17-70mm-2-8-4-...s/dp/B002ZNJB2I

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/5962..._2_8_IF_EX.html

Getting closer!

I had ordered the first link (that lens through amazon) because it said it was in stock. HOWEVER once I 'bought' the item, it said "not yet shipped" for the past 2 weeks without any change in status because, as B&H puts it, "This is not a regularly stocked item". Needless to say I cancelled my order.

I've also tried placing the orders through Adorama...I waited 3 weeks without any change in status. Then cancelled the order.

Thus I am hunting for a sure fire 'in-stock' product. Unfortunately, the amazon link you posted is a lie

B&H was probably ordering the lens for you, since it is not a regularly stocked item. needless to say, you should have been patient. my advice would be to call B&H and ask them to order the lens for you. what's so necessary about it being currently in stock?

I waited 3 weeks without so much as a peep. And I've tried more than one store. Why wouldn't I try to find it elsewhere where it is already in stock?

Also, if most of the sellers estimate 7-14 days for it to come in from the manufacturer, and there still isn't any word after 3 weeks, I'd wager this means Sigma is the one being slow. I'd rather just find a store that already has it than wait for Sigma to get its rear in gear.

If no place has it in stock, than sure, I'll wait-- what other option do I have? But I don't know every photo store out there which is why I posted here, so I'd have some other places to check before I take up some time consuming hobby like knitting while I wait for Sigma.

So have you called adorama or B&H? Like, talked to a real person? Trust me, if they don't carry it in stock, then no one does. Put forth some initiative. Or use dshnarw's amazon link and wait six days until sigma has it available.

I haven't. And do you think so?
Okay, I guess I'll just talk to some B&H people and see if I can get a fix on getting one of these lenses.

new thread topic:

is feesh phone-phobic?

sigma4less.com

i am most def. phone phobic.

Do you guys know anything about sigma lenses?

B&H etc. doesn't have the 24-70mm F2.8 IF EX DG HSM listed, but it does have a similar lens in stock, the 24-70mm F2.8 EX DG MACRO.

HSM is Sigma speak for the auto-focus motor being in the lens....which I want because I'm using the SD14 body which (if I'm not mistaken) doesn't have an auto-focus motor in the housing.

The 24-70mm F2.8 EX DG MACRO obviously doesn't have the "hyper sonic motor" in it, but the website says it has a "Dual Focus" system:

"This lens incorporates a Dual Focus (DF) system that is designed to make the lens easy to hold during autofocusing, and yet provides a large focus ring for easy manual focusing."

Does this mean it has a motor in it? I'd like my standard zoom lens to be able to auto-focus since I'll be using it in a wide variety of situations....

let me translate the answer to my topic...







have you checked sigma's site for that?

the Dual focus on the 24-70 NON HSM is you pull the barrel up and down to switch between the AF/MF setting..HSM does not mean the motor is built in and non HSM are not..All the sigma mounts should have the motors built in them like the Canon mount sigma lenses...the HSM is just the Hypersonic focus like Canons USM motors..means its very fast, silent and accurate also you are able to MF the lens without having to switch to the MF mode.
you can see the AF on the barrel.

You would pull the barrel up or down to get MF not sure what way..this makes it easier to switch between the two mode so if you want to MF the lens you dont need to look for the switch by the body

Ooooh I get it.

Well it looks by the reviews from amazon and B&H etc that the HSM version of the 24-70 is a little sharper. I suppose I'll continue trying to track down one of those.

http://www.photo4less.com/pd-productid-328...tal_cameras.htm

I'm pretty sure Sigma uses the same bayonet style mount as Nikon cameras. I shot an advertising job for Sigma and they gave me a bunch of lenses. I have that 24-70mm IF EX DG HSM which I've been meaning to sell, just haven't gotten around to it yet. Shoot me a post if you're interested, I send you over some pics.

See original post towards the bottom.




Unfortunately, they are different mounts. Wish they were, because I'd love to buy it from you. Thanks for the heads up, though.

Oh well, didn't realize that. I've got the 10-20mm, the 50 f1.8, 24-70mm, and 70-200mm just sitting around collecting dust.

I'd take my chances on ebay...people will dish out.

If you want sure fire, guaranteed money, go to either adorama.com or bhphotovideo.com
They will both buy your gear-- you won't get as much as you would if you are lucky on ebay, but at least you know how much you're getting ahead of time.

Does sigma have any intention of continuing their own camera line of SLR's ? I was told by a rep (2007) that they will be slowing down commitments and stop making SA mount product. Basically what I am saying, do you think it wise to invest in a product that is so difficult to obtain. Perhaps before you begin collecting lenses and equipment that may possibly have no future ? There are very few Sigma SLR users, least where I am from. Back in the camera store days I never saw one sell. Could be a fantastic camera, but needs to have a future if you want me to invest $$$ in lenses. Just my .2

You may be right...
The SD15 is set to be released at this year's PMA (in a couple weeks). If it's a flop, I could definitely see them slowing down their R&D for their cameras and just focusing on their lenses.

Sigma makes very niche oriented cameras with a tiny-tiny fan base; the foveon sensor and the technology they pair with it is only good for shooting in certain situations. They've made small improvements to ISO and white balance settings, but the results just don't compare to CaNikon. If, however, you are interested in shooting subjects that Sigma/foveon can handle then you have a ball with it. I'm fine with starting up a DSLR system that may be extinct in a couple years because I know I will enjoy it and make some great photos-- that's enough to overlook the fact that CaNikon will continue to make the amazing advances in photography as they always are. When my camera eventually dies and Sigma doesn't make DSLRs, I'll consider moving back to the bayer mosaic sensor. Until then, I'm fine with what I've got.

I see what you are getting at, tools are tools to me. I just like to think that I am making an investment in my gear and belive that is a easy mistake to make when you are starting to purchase more $ gear. But hey, if you feel it makes a difference in your photography go nuts.

Exactly. (I feel) I'm just using the most pragmatic tool to get the particular job I want done.

Best luck in tracking down that lens... Perhaps try contacting Sigma directly ? I think Sigma in the states is based out of New York. In Canada its Gentec Inc. Call them both as you may find that they are in stock in Canada. Gentec buys wholesale from Sigma, as far as I know.

i posted a link for the 24-70 HSM in sigma mount in stock..did you not look?

OK here is my suggestion, buy Canon lenses and convert them to Sigma SA mount. Here is a section from dp preview that came up when I did a search for a sigma sa mount adapter.

Canon EF lenses are relatively easy to convert to SA mount because the Canon EF mount and Sigma SA mount share the same registration distance (44mm) and the same body-lens electrical communication protocalls...As I mentioned above, Canon EF lenses converted to SA mount will retain their AF and AA functions but to date it has not yet been possible to retain the IS (Image Stabilisation) function so its probably best to only convert Canon EF lenses that dont have IS.

This seems like a very viable option as when you are done using it, convert it back and wah lah, you can sell the canon lens for a whole lot more than a sigma mount. I don't know how to do it but it obviously can be done. I would thing it is rather easy and probably just changing the bayonet mount plate. Should be just a couple of screws and you are good. If only that was what she said.

Sorry, I couldn't resist that one. Anyway, good luck. Mark

Did you not see my original post?

"I've found one site that has them, photo4less.com, but the store has really mixed ratings....mostly 5 stars, and some 1 stars with a terrible story behind the rating-- I'd like to save ordering from this store as a last resort unless anyone can convince me otherwise!"

Summary: I'd like to avoid ordering it from this store because of the mixed ratings, unless a bunch of you have good things to say about this site.



Thanks, I'll check around the net to see if there are any quick tutorials and add that to my list of options!

Nothing wrong with them..I purchased a Sigma 150mm macro from them and got it in a week..my buddy bought a Nikon D300 from them and got it next day.

You lucky bastard.

What'cha want for the 10-20?

It's in near mint condition with original packaging all the way down to the plastic bag that it came wrapped in from the factory. I did shoot a fair bit with it for the job I did with Sigma. B&H wants $650 new I was thinking $350-$400 for it. Shoot me a message if you want to see some pics.



oh yeah, it's the f3.5 EX DC

Thanks for the info! I was after the 4-5.6 version, I just can't justify the cost difference for the 3.5 to myself. Good luck selling though.

Well there you go, that's a good sign-- thanks for the good word!

who is this kylegeorge and why does he have all of these nikon mount lenses that I want?

semi humble photog living in az. used to travel and shoot a lot. have a family now and needed an occupying hobby for around the house hence fishtanks. shot an advertising job for sigma and they gave me a bunch of lenses. already got a ton of nikon glass so they're just sitting around. anybody that wants em let me know. new to the forum so if your interested we can agree on a price and i'll put on ebay with that price as a buy it now. been meaning to put them on there anyways, just haven't gotten around to it.

I'm sorry that there seems to be some confusion; the 17-70 is most certainly in stock at Adorama, and we have not have a cancelled order for the 24-70 sigma mount for the last 6 months; are you certain that you ordered from Adorama?
If you did, please send me your order number and I will give it my immediate attention.

and just like that

BAM!

it happens again

Thanks for your inquiry, but you'e mistaken.
I ordered the 17-70mm through Adorama and cancelled it because it took too long for the item to ship, not the 24-70mm. It's good to know that you have it in stock now, but apparently it was not when I ordered it and waited more than 2 weeks without any action taking place--I appreciate your concern for your customers, but no further action is required on your behalf as I've been in possession of a standard zoom lens for 2 days now and am no longer searching the online market for a product.

its like they have a device that detects anytime "adorama" appears on our forum