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Bio_Borg
Well, I was looking for some actinic supplementation for my BC14, and definitely wanted the "pop" LED's provided. Nobody seemed to have a clear idea how well these would perform in a BC14, let alone how exactly a retro would be done safely and with good coverage. I decided to spend the $70 or so via Dr Fosters and took the plunge.. So here's my short review with pics:

Setup/Build quality: Except for the retrofit needed, the device itself is brainless to setup.. You basically just plug it in. They give you a little sticky conduit to keep the power cord out of the water, and the connection between the stunner and power lead is a male/female waterproof type connector. The strip itself has no exposed wiring, and is on a solid piece of aluminum.

Retrofit ease (on a BC14): This took some thought.. Ideally, one would want to put this behind the light shield, but the only options were either over the reflector, or between the bulbs (which would block the moonlights). There was also the issue of heat, and I was worried the PC bulbs would weaken the life of the strip. The strip itself also became hot once plugged in for awhile.. Also, when testing towards the back of the tank (which is where it would be if placed on the reflector), i wasn't satisifed with the intensity at the front of the tank. So, I basically used a hot butter knife to cut slots towards the back of the feeder hood, and snapped the strip right into place. if you cut the slots right, you can make a nice very tight fit.. Picture included below of the retro.. This gave 100% light coverage and doesn't obstruct feeding at all.

Light intensity: Very bright to the human eye. Not blinding, but enough that you'll see stars if you look at it for more than a few seconds.

Tank lighting results: the pics speak for themselves, but one strip has no problem getting full and deep penetration on a BC14. Adds a nice blue shimmer tinge with all the PC bulbs on.

Heat Output: Tank was a steady 78F before install, now is 79.5F.

Effect on Coral: Only have had it in place for 48 hours, but my zoas are now 100% open while before it was no more than maybe 75% on a good day. My Yellow Polyped leather is super happy, covered in a yellow fur, while before just on PC it was basically yellow dots. No diff so far with my ricordia or torch coral, but they seemed happy before anyways.

Unknowns...: The fixture is rated as "water resistant". In its current location, it is 1" above the water surface and will obviously be receiving condensate. Only time will tell whether water/salt will negatively impact it, but so far no problems.

overall rating: 9/10. Got the extra pop I wanted, clean install, and corals seem happy. The pictures don't really do it justice unfortunately, but in person they really do add a nice shimmer and fluorescent pop to the corals.

retrofit picture:



Just Stunner Strip on:



Just PC's on:



PC's and Stunner on:


Marine1
Tank looks a lot better with the new led's. I have a BC29 and was thinking of getting a couple of these. Your pics helped me make the decision to get them. I was just looking to supplement my stock lighting to get better color to my zoa's and acan's. I haven't figured out where I'm going to place them yet. Like you stated there are heat issued if placed near the PC's. I might end up doing that anyway.

Nice looking tank!
Bio_Borg
QUOTE (Marine1 @ Jan 20 2010, 08:11 PM) *
Tank looks a lot better with the new led's. I have a BC29 and was thinking of getting a couple of these. Your pics helped me make the decision to get them. I was just looking to supplement my stock lighting to get better color to my zoa's and acan's. I haven't figured out where I'm going to place them yet. Like you stated there are heat issued if placed near the PC's. I might end up doing that anyway.

Nice looking tank!


I'd highly recommend it. I don't know the layout of the BC29, but if you can squeeze it in the middle, you can get by with one unit. Otherwise two will certainly be plenty. For me, it was definitely $70 well spent.
Screename_116
Ya those make it look awesome!
Marine1
Are you experiencing any condensation or salt creep issues with the placement of that strip? I'm just trying to plan where to put mine.
Jacwil
Thx for the great info Borg! I just did this modd/add-on. Although I was trying to be careful and take small amounts at a time, I inevitably took too much out and I couldn't get enough of a tight fit to feel comfortable with leaving it "as is". I drilled a big enough hole for a small ziptie to fit thru and tied off ea. end of the strip. Looks fine, can barely notice.

Love the color pop these offer!!!!
nick1912
What spectrum did you guys go with?
Jacwil
We both did 453.
Bio_Borg
QUOTE (Jacwil @ Feb 3 2010, 01:59 PM) *
Thx for the great info Borg! I just did this modd/add-on. Although I was trying to be careful and take small amounts at a time, I inevitably took too much out and I couldn't get enough of a tight fit to feel comfortable with leaving it "as is". I drilled a big enough hole for a small ziptie to fit thru and tied off ea. end of the strip. Looks fine, can barely notice.

Love the color pop these offer!!!!


Hey, great idea with the Zip ties. Originally I had intended to lightly epoxy mine in place, but in the end the fit was so tight I didn't need to. Zip ties far better imho.

Definitely great bang for the buck. My corals seem to love them, and after I adjusted my Koralia to churn the water surface, I get really nice shimmer. Also, for whatever reason after a few weeks of running, my temp is back to 78.. Can't explain that myself, but I'm not complaining.
Jacwil
Here's a not so wonderful pic with just the Stunner. I'm super-pleased with the color pop I get in person. FYI, this tank has only been setup for 3 weeks...thus the reason for looking so barren.
cbandotho
Do these add any PAR to the tank? Is it significant? Or is it more for the shimmer effect of halides
and some additional "color pop"? I am looking for something to supplement my T5's and increase the PAR a bit...

Bio_Borg
QUOTE (cbandotho @ Feb 4 2010, 05:48 PM) *
Do these add any PAR to the tank? Is it significant? Or is it more for the shimmer effect of halides
and some additional "color pop"? I am looking for something to supplement my T5's and increase the PAR a bit...


Well it must add some PAR, as they are pretty bright and the tank is small.. The main goal is color/shimmer though.
Yreka
I am also running a strip as my main light source on a desktop Pico Barracuda.. Very happy with them so far. ( I have the act/daylight strip)




LogansRunRx
QUOTE (Yreka @ Feb 24 2010, 11:38 AM) *
I am also running a strip as my main light source on a desktop Pico Barracuda.. Very happy with them so far. ( I have the act/daylight strip)


just 1 strip?... how much light do these things put out???
Bamato
I'm interested in these... tell us more!!
Crackerballer
Very nice. Clean retro and great results.
Weetabix7
Found this link with PAR numbers for these Stunner Strips: http://www.yousaytoo.com/ecoxotic-stunner-...-numbers/194627
mrezn8
I have the 453nm in my 3 gallon pico and I love it. Granted, these lights won't put out enough light for a larger tank, but for small nano/pico tanks, they could be used as primary lighting. I have a Coralife 18W above my 3 gallon pico and the light is very harsh. I'm thinking of buying the 8000K to compliment the 453nm and get rid of my PC.
EliPhant
weetabix, i saw that link before. but it doesnt mention which strip was used to measure the par, the white, blue, or the combo.
ihatesears18
I have got to pick up a couple of these for my tanks!
Bamato
These seem like they would be excellent primary lighting for Picos and small nano's.
Weetabix7
QUOTE (EliPhant @ Apr 20 2010, 12:59 PM) *
weetabix, i saw that link before. but it doesnt mention which strip was used to measure the par, the white, blue, or the combo.


According to evilc66, one of the unique things about LED lighting is that Blue LEDs put out just as much PAR as White LEDs.
Don't know if that's just as true of these LEDs as it is of the LEDs evilc is working with, but if so it would make it a moot point which color strip was used for the tests.
05XRunner
so are these able to give shimmer like a MH..I was wondering if I got 2 and put on each side of my 4x24 T5 it would give me a MH shimmer effect
Weetabix7
QUOTE (05XRunner @ Apr 20 2010, 05:37 PM) *
so are these able to give shimmer like a MH..I was wondering if I got 2 and put on each side of my 4x24 T5 it would give me a MH shimmer effect


Yes, LEDs give a shimmer effect.
pismo_reefer
Too... Friggin'... Tempting...
05XRunner
QUOTE (Weetabix7 @ Apr 20 2010, 06:53 PM) *
Yes, LEDs give a shimmer effect.

I know LEDs give a shimmer..but are these powerful enough to actually show the shimmer effect with my main lights on..or will the main lights just wash them out completely like they do to most moonlight type LED
Weetabix7
QUOTE (05XRunner @ Apr 21 2010, 11:06 AM) *
I know LEDs give a shimmer..but are these powerful enough to actually show the shimmer effect with my main lights on..or will the main lights just wash them out completely like they do to most moonlight type LED


I dunno. :shrugs:
Try it and let me know! biggrin.gif
Or you could ask the OP....
jfarabaugh
I have 3 stunners (1 453 2 mixed) with 3 PCs in my bc29. They add more light (I can tell the difference between off and on) but shimmer is washed out.
05XRunner
QUOTE (jfarabaugh @ Apr 21 2010, 12:24 PM) *
I have 3 stunners (1 453 2 mixed) with 3 PCs in my bc29. They add more light (I can tell the difference between off and on) but shimmer is washed out.

bummer..well thanks for saving me $140 anyway smile.gif
jfarabaugh
very tight with 3 PCs but hope to get the 18" T5s once they come out

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LogansRunRx
QUOTE (jfarabaugh @ Apr 21 2010, 10:28 PM) *
more pics

thanks for all the pics, jfarabaugh... looks great!
just think what the output of ur hood is gonna be with the new PCRs from nanotuners ohmy.gif
jfarabaugh
QUOTE (LogansRunRx @ Apr 21 2010, 11:40 PM) *
thanks for all the pics, jfarabaugh... looks great!
just think what the output of ur hood is gonna be with the new PCRs from nanotuners ohmy.gif



I had the PCRs ordered via the presale then I canceled it and waiting for the T5R conversion kit.
arbimass
Very nice ... Now only if our buddy Borg went out of his way and shot a short video of this tank to demonstrate the shimmer effect of those bad boys! wink.gif
Pilg0re
I wonder how much of a difference there is between the 403 and the 453?
mrezn8
The 403 is more purple than blue. The 453 is better as far as actinic coloration. I bought both the 403 and 453 and ended up returning the 403. Not sure what the 403 would be good for.
VtheMaestro
QUOTE (mrezn8 @ May 11 2010, 09:28 AM) *
The 403 is more purple than blue. The 453 is better as far as actinic coloration. I bought both the 403 and 453 and ended up returning the 403. Not sure what the 403 would be good for.


I read somewhere that the 453 blue appears to be closer to actinic coloration, but the 403 purple is actually "the closest approximation to true 420nm actinic light from an LED."

jfarabaugh & mrezn8, we need you to come join the ecoxotic club!
http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=236372
Zo0k365
QUOTE (05XRunner @ Apr 21 2010, 02:09 PM) *
bummer..well thanks for saving me $140 anyway smile.gif


You only get shimmer if you get surface agitation. That's a bigger factor. You can get some shimmer with T5s and PCs if you make enough water movement at the surface.
ganjero
any updates, is the stunner having any issues with the water?
lhernandez86
My stunner stripe gets water splashed on it...have had it for 6 months no issues yet
Jacwil
QUOTE (lhernandez86 @ Jul 8 2010, 03:17 PM) *
My stunner stripe gets water splashed on it...have had it for 6 months no issues yet



+1...i absolutely love ours over the bc 14...i hate the stock bulbs that came in the hood but I'm not ready to dump a ton of money into a huge led retro gig. If I wasn't worried about burning stuff I would put like 4 of the stunners in the hood.
fmfa0801
I have drop mine comptely under water while on a few times. no problems in almost a year






JakeF150
I have biocube 29, with upgrade 3.36, PC-R (2) 50/50 and one dual actinic.

I added stunner 453 to it..

with all lights off- wow it pops colorful!

With (2) 50/50 on- NOTHING...hard to tell if stunner is on or off.

Kind of disappointed. oh well..

Jake
dvsclownfish1
The 403 is more UV than actinic and is not bright at all. They are used to increase coloration but it takes time for it to develop that most people won't wait for.
grafx13me
QUOTE (ihatesears18 @ Apr 20 2010, 02:04 PM) *
I have got to pick up a couple of these for my tanks!
I picked these up at my lfs for a great deal i picked up the 8000k white and there perfect par number are compaired to just under A 150 W METAL HALIDE
gabe_j
QUOTE (grafx13me @ Mar 9 2011, 12:25 AM) *
I picked these up at my lfs for a great deal i picked up the 8000k white and there perfect par number are compaired to just under A 150 W METAL HALIDE



i doubt that. lol

got a par meter and a camera handy? cuz this sounds alot like a "pics or it didn't happen situation"

i know a local store that was going to light the entire fish section with only stunner strips and they took them all down because they weren't bright enough.so now they have upwards of 100 strips they need to get rid of. i'm just saying i've seen these attempted in a professional setting and it isn't that bright. not at all.
FishStrings
Stunners were never advertised as an independent light source. I believe If you were going for a primary light source, you would be buying panoramas.
streetsong
I just did added a single strip just as described in the original post with the zip ties to hold it in place. So far it looks great but it got incredibly hot yesterday, quickly raising the tank to 82 degrees. Anyone else have this issue?
reef-luva
I LOVE them!!! cool.gif
http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?...p;#entry3311575
4f1hmi
i have one on my 20 gallon acrylic as a supplement to my t5's. I love the blues and their combination lights. smile.gif Dropped the lights and wires in the water also and it didn't budge. Awesome lights.
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