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Proud parents!




Here they are spawning!




Here is the result!



It will take a few months to see what color they will actually become. Either chocolate or black.
badfish816
congrats! not a big fan of hybrids, but those are stunning. goodluck with the rest.
Nanobuds
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ryeguy28
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QUOTE (Nanobuds @ Dec 9 2009, 05:19 PM) *
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FishEyeAquaculture
QUOTE (badfish816 @ Dec 9 2009, 05:18 PM) *
congrats! not a big fan of hybrids, but those are stunning. goodluck with the rest.

They are not hybrids, both parents are different color variations of the species ocellaris. They will be pure/true Ocellaris.
usf fan
Stunning!!!!!!!!!!!!
d'Espresso
awesomeness! Can't wait to see how these turn out!
FishEyeAquaculture
QUOTE (d'Espresso @ Dec 9 2009, 06:23 PM) *
awesomeness! Can't wait to see how these turn out!

Me too! Even though I have a pretty good idea, since I have worked with the orange X black genetics before. The most likely outcome is chocolates. It doesn't matter what color the male or female is.
christosclowns
Well all i can say if she finally spawned that is awesome. Great jpb i said it before if it can be done you can do it. Regardless of the color the fact that a female snowflake is laying is incredible. And as far as coloration you may be surprised, i had black males with orange occ and i had allot of extreme black fish with orange dorsals and an orange face. You might get some john that have allot of black good work see ya
usf fan
You will have a whole new variety of snowflake clowns!!!!!!!!what are you going to call them???????
RyanR1212
HOLY SHIIT THATS CRAZY!!! clowns at my school did that same dance when they were laying eggs but not those cool clowns! i hope all goes well man.. keep me posted i might have to buy a pair
christosclowns
well if they are black what about tuxedo clowns lol
FishEyeAquaculture
QUOTE (usf fan @ Dec 9 2009, 06:52 PM) *
You will have a whole new variety of snowflake clowns!!!!!!!!what are you going to call them???????


QUOTE (christosclowns @ Dec 9 2009, 06:59 PM) *
well if they are black what about tuxedo clowns lol

If they are black...then, Phantom Clowns!
If they are chocolate...then, Chocolate Smores!
badfish816
gotcha. sorry, mistake on my part. awesome
FishEyeAquaculture
QUOTE (badfish816 @ Dec 9 2009, 07:09 PM) *
gotcha. sorry, mistake on my part. awesome

No problem! Thanks!
usf fan
QUOTE (hyperboy @ Dec 9 2009, 08:01 PM) *
If they are black...then, Phantom Clowns!
If they are chocolate...then, Chocolate Smores!

Perfect names!!!!!!!
FishEyeAquaculture
QUOTE (usf fan @ Dec 9 2009, 07:19 PM) *
Perfect names!!!!!!!

Thanks!
weeber
i think a black snowflake clown would be the coolest clown ever much better than the orange snow flakes. congrats hope they are black. smile.gif
FishEyeAquaculture
QUOTE (weeber @ Dec 9 2009, 08:17 PM) *
i think a black snowflake clown would be the coolest clown ever much better than the orange snow flakes. congrats hope they are black. smile.gif

That would be cool...we shall see! I think chocolates would be cool too, because it would be very different, everyone has seen orange snowflakes...but I am biased.
clownfish617
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NightAtTheOpera
QUOTE (hyperboy @ Dec 9 2009, 07:01 PM) *
If they are black...then, Phantom Clowns!
If they are chocolate...then, Chocolate Smores!


I swear to God I just snorted tea out of my nose! Chocolate Smores laugh.gif

Congrats on the babies! My swords have had babies in my FW tank but I think any ignoramous can get swords to breed. Your tank must be pretty awesome to get baby Clowns.
FishEyeAquaculture
QUOTE (NightAtTheOpera @ Dec 9 2009, 10:15 PM) *
I swear to God I just snorted tea out of my nose! Chocolate Smores laugh.gif


See...it's catchy.
badfish816
hey hyper, i am tryin to understand the genetics.

i thought:

picassos came from true percs
snowflakes came from picassos
platinums came from snowflakes

so set me straight. should it be:

picassos and platinums are true percs?
snowflakes are occilaris?
illidan
picassos came from true percs : YES PIcassos are true percs
snowflakes came from picassos: FALSE you are probably mistaking DONIS SNowcassoo wich has caused alot of confusion. SNOWFLAKEs are their own occelaris MOrph.
platinums came from snowflakes: FALse PLatinums came from picassos being inbred over the years. And if you read at the top picassos are percula
FishEyeAquaculture
QUOTE (illidan @ Dec 10 2009, 01:44 AM) *
picassos came from true percs : YES PIcassos are true percs
snowflakes came from picassos: FALSE you are probably mistaking DONIS SNowcassoo wich has caused alot of confusion. SNOWFLAKEs are their own occelaris MOrph.
platinums came from snowflakes: FALse PLatinums came from picassos being inbred over the years. And if you read at the top picassos are percula


True story! Thank you illidan!
MarvinsReef
NiCE!!! congrats... I've been wondering who would get a chance to do this combo... looking forward to seeing them mature... either Chocolate or Black SnowFlakes would be awesome!!!

tagging along... smile.gif
FishEyeAquaculture
QUOTE (MarvinsReef @ Dec 10 2009, 02:53 PM) *
NiCE!!! congrats... I've been wondering who would get a chance to do this combo... looking forward to seeing them mature... either Chocolate or Black SnowFlakes would be awesome!!!

tagging along... smile.gif

Thank you for your kind words!
badfish816
I SEE THE LIGHT!!!!
illidan
Correct me if i am wrong but the ones that derived from the UK were being breed from Snowflake/B&w mix?
FishEyeAquaculture
QUOTE (illidan @ Dec 10 2009, 04:57 PM) *
Correct me if i am wrong but the ones that derived from the UK were being breed from Snowflake/B&w mix?

I purchased my female Snowflake back in late 2004 from TMC (UK). That was when Snowflakes first became available. As for the Snowflakes coming from TMC being a Snowflake/B&w mix, I don't think so. Not dark enough. ORA released Chocolate Ocellaris as a Valentines day special back in '08, they were from a Orange/B&W mix...they are no longer available from ORA.
abominalsnowman
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Llewos
Hyperboy, love the fish!

Can you tell me a bit about the fry tank and what you did to raise the fry? I am having a bit of trouble with that part. I have a breeding pair of percs. (female is a black onyx, and the male is an ORA misbar)
but i cant seem to get past day 5/6.
any help would be greatly appreciated on food, tank set up, etc.
FishEyeAquaculture
QUOTE (Llewos @ Dec 10 2009, 06:10 PM) *
Hyperboy, love the fish!

Can you tell me a bit about the fry tank and what you did to raise the fry? I am having a bit of trouble with that part. I have a breeding pair of percs. (female is a black onyx, and the male is an ORA misbar)
but i cant seem to get past day 5/6.
any help would be greatly appreciated on food, tank set up, etc.



Llewos, Thank you for the compliment.

All of my fish; percula, snowflakes, ocellaris, picassos, and gobies are raised in 10gal tanks filled halfway with aged saltwater. They are fed rotifers twice a day and their water is kept green at all times. Water changes happen in the morning, roughly 10%. This happens till day 3 or 4. I then start adding freshly hatched brine (decaped). On day 5 or 6 the baby brine and rotifers are done and crushed flake is fed. Hope this helps, feel free to PM me if you have any further questions!
usf fan
I love this thread!!!!!!!!
usf fan
Any more pictures??????
FishEyeAquaculture
Here are some new pictures I took this morning. Enjoy!





badfish816
wow. look at the black already
usf fan
They are darker than a normal snowflake or occellaris!!!!!!!so cool!!!!!
FishEyeAquaculture
Update! They spawned again last night...every 8 days, which is a really nice fast cycle! Thank you everyone for your generous compliments!
usf fan
What percentages have snowflake patterns
FishEyeAquaculture
QUOTE (usf fan @ Dec 14 2009, 11:46 AM) *
What percentages have snowflake patterns

It really varies per spawn, never less than 50%. However, I have counted 75% or higher. This is exciting because as with any pair of clownfish their spawns only get larger each time. I just wish I knew for sure what color they are going to be, but I guess that's why the unknown is exciting...... laugh.gif
MarvinsReef
QUOTE (hyperboy @ Dec 14 2009, 08:44 AM) *
Update! They spawned again last night...every 8 days, which is a really nice fast cycle! Thank you everyone for your generous compliments!

how many batches do you have atm? and how old are the 1st hatchings?

so cool that you get 50% Snowflakes each batch... smile.gif
zjharva
FishEyeAquaculture
QUOTE (MarvinsReef @ Dec 15 2009, 12:40 PM) *
how many batches do you have atm? and how old are the 1st hatchings?

so cool that you get 50% Snowflakes each batch... smile.gif



They have spwned 8 times since early October. So, currently I have 8 batches growing. Their first batch was really a learning expierence being a new pair....and really there is only one survivor from that first batch, but it just so happens that it has snowflake patterns!
MarvinsReef
QUOTE (hyperboy @ Dec 16 2009, 01:42 PM) *
They have spwned 8 times since early October. So, currently I have 8 batches growing. Their first batch was really a learning expierence being a new pair....and really there is only one survivor from that first batch, but it just so happens that it has snowflake patterns!

wOw... that's a lot of babies... smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

looking forward to seeing more pics when you take some... smile.gif
badfish816
i like those percentages!
FishEyeAquaculture
QUOTE (badfish816 @ Dec 16 2009, 05:40 PM) *
i like those percentages!


Me too! laugh.gif
usf fan
Those are good percentages.on another note I love the title to this thread!!!!!!!lol!!!!!!I just realized it!!!!!
FishEyeAquaculture
QUOTE (usf fan @ Dec 17 2009, 05:31 PM) *
Those are good percentages.on another note I love the title to this thread!!!!!!!lol!!!!!!I just realized it!!!!!

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usf fan
The other thread title having to do with these fish is misleading to what was actually accomplished.any updates?
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