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Nick_Chisholm
Me and my friend decided to try and acclimate a bumblebee goby into salt water at work the other day and it worked! hes eating and healthy and has no issues. hes in a salinity at around 23-24. if he last a while i might put one in my nano reef! ill upload pictures later...
peewee1467
upload pictures... NOW!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
Nano sapiens
Ok, first off these are brackish water fish. A Bumblebee Goby should be kept in lightly brackish water with a specific gravity of around 1.005.

The Goby may tolerate NSW for a while, but probably not for too long. It would be more humane to keep the little guy in the environment that it is specifically adapted to.



ryeguy28
QUOTE (Nano sapiens @ Nov 18 2009, 12:37 AM) *
Ok, first off these are brackish water fish. A Bumblebee Goby should be kept in lightly brackish water with a specific gravity of around 1.005.

The Goby may tolerate NSW for a while, but probably not for too long. It would be more humane to keep the little guy in the environment that it is specifically adapted to.



somebody brung in a budis budis that has gone full salt
peewee1467
mollies and platies are brackish water fish, yet some people have them in their reefs with no problems.
ryeguy28
QUOTE (peewee1467 @ Nov 18 2009, 12:46 AM) *
mollies and platies are brackish water fish, yet some people have them in their reefs with no problems.



and they have them in full fresh water to
Nano sapiens
QUOTE (ryeguy28 @ Nov 18 2009, 12:44 AM) *
somebody brung in a budis budis that has gone full salt


You mean 'Badis badis'? Never heard of them living in full strength salt water, but anything is possible.





ryeguy28
QUOTE (Nano sapiens @ Nov 18 2009, 01:00 AM) *
You mean 'Badis badis'? Never heard of them living in full strength salt water, but anything is possible.


yea lol im tired

it looked realy cool in salt lol

i wanna convert a bbg to full salt one day smile.gif
Nano sapiens
QUOTE (ryeguy28 @ Nov 18 2009, 12:49 AM) *
and they have them in full fresh water to


The mollies and their relatives belong to a unique family of fishes. They are found in all environments from fresh to very salty. Can the same be said for Bumblebee Gobies? From what I have read they are found specifically in brackish environments, but hey, maybe you all have more knowledge than I do.

Good luck with your fish.
ajmckay
I've always thought it would be awesome to be able to acclimate (over months) a fish such as a neon tetra to full saltwater.

I'm probably stupid for thinking this, but I suppose I'll just write that off as a curiosity on whether it can even be done.
Nano sapiens
QUOTE (ajmckay @ Nov 18 2009, 01:18 AM) *
I've always thought it would be awesome to be able to acclimate (over months) a fish such as a neon tetra to full saltwater.

I'm probably stupid for thinking this, but I suppose I'll just write that off as a curiosity on whether it can even be done.


Unfotunately, Tetras have been in fresh water for so long that they have never developed (or have lost) the ability to adapt to high salinity. I've kept them with a small amount of salt, but nothing measurable by reef-keeping standards.
rkelley_10
Brackish water fish will have compromised immune systems if the specific gravity is too low. If you keep one in "regular freshwater" and not in water that is close to 1.005 SP, then their lifespan may be reduced by as much as 50%. The same can be said for keeping such a fish in a reef environment as the SG in a reef should be at 1.026. As I only understand fluid and electrolyte balances in a human, I cannot specifically comment on such effects. I do know that once you understand osmolarity of body fluids and their effect on hydrostatic, oncotic, intravascular, and interstitial pressures, such an environment is detrimental to a brackish water fish. pH and electrolyte composition of the water have a lot to do with metabolic processes of fish as well. This seems more of a "look what I can do" type endeavor than anything else. It would be like keeping a person in a hypercapneic room, say with 40% carbon dioxide and saying that they "look fine". I'm not trying to be a bleeding heart activist here, it is neat, I just think it's a little unnecessary. On side note, an LFS in my area has "brackish moray eels" for sale.
Nick_Chisholm
QUOTE (Nano sapiens @ Nov 17 2009, 09:37 PM) *
Ok, first off these are brackish water fish. A Bumblebee Goby should be kept in lightly brackish water with a specific gravity of around 1.005.

The Goby may tolerate NSW for a while, but probably not for too long. It would be more humane to keep the little guy in the environment that it is specifically adapted to.

its not my fish, its just one at my work. we were bored and wanted to experiment with acclimating fish. we're probably going to try a jack dempsey next! i know a guy whos done it and now im curious. well see
carbon-mantis
Hmm, I've seen some fresh/brackish puffers kept in salt water, but the ones I've seen in shops rarely looked healthy. One way or another though, I'm interested in seeing how this goes in the long run...

@rkelley_10, I've seen those along with a fish labeled as a "brackish lionfish" a few times. From what I've read there's a species or two that lives in brackish water(definitely on my want list happy.gif ). As far as the "lionfish" goes, a couple of sites label it as a species of toad fish, and information on it's husbandry seems to vary from source to source, other than the rather obvious(food, SG, temperament). Really a sort of ugly-cute quality to them; sort of looks like something Jim Henson would of dreamed up- [(-pic-)]

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::quick edit:: I would not advise the Jack Dempsey, however(or really any of this). If you're testing this out on cichlids, you might want to try an orange chromide cichlid instead. Just try not to kill anything...

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