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weeber
I would like to know what fish you people at Nano-reef like better that you think i should put in my 12 gallon Aqua Pod with one Yasha goby that has been in there for a while. So please vote on which fish you think would look the best and maybe has an intresting behavior and most importantly will not bully my yasha goby. Also feel free to say that one of the fish in the poll will not be compatable with the tank size or if you think another fish would be a good addition tell me and ill put it on the poll and last but not least please post why you like the fish if you can.
hear are some pics of each fish just in case you have never seen one. smile.gif
neon goby
green banded goby
Yellow assessor
Nemo Niblets
The blue flasher is sick...
Carlton'sTank
I like the fish you have chosen, but i don't know how good the choices are for your system. I don't think any wrasse should be put in a tank that small, especially flashers that swim ALOT. I think the only fish that fits your tank would be the hi-fin goby, but you already have a bottom-dwelling goby and that is a fairly small tank to have two of them. I think it is cool that you are doing the vote thing though. Maybe a citron goby, or yellow clown goby would be a good choice.
6-line
I would have to agree with carlton...I just added a firefish in my 14 and will only add one more fish, prob a clown goby...I researched and thought long and hard about adding a wrasse, namely a 6-line, but I eventually chose against it because of the tank size...those flasher wrasses even require more room than a 6 to be happy, IMO...
As much as you would like a wrasse you should think about the fish and perhaps bought the tank sized accordingly to the size fish you would of liked to keep...I did and was set up knowing i wouldn't get a 6-line (my fave fish) but my conscience wavered and I was going to get one anyhow but realism took over and I decided against it...

it's your tank, it's up to you--just my thought from someone who recently went thru same dilemma...

Mechano
McCosker's wrasse. beautiful fish, but maybe your tank is just a little too small for it.
asting
mcCoskers wrasse needs 50 gals... The vast majority of the fish listed are too big for a 12 especialy because you already have an appropriate bioload.
plainrt
yeah no wrasse.maybe a 6 line but will prob be a mean little guy after bit in small tank
weeber
i figured that the wrasse would need a larger tank but i had kept a carpenters wrasse in a 14 gallon Biocube and had no problemsso i wasnt sure. I aslo thought the six line would get too agressive. but keep on voting. smile.gif
DBTReefer
GOBY. everything else just needs much more space. you could get a pistol with it too
zachxbass
I like all of the fish that you had on the list, and at one point have had almost all of them. I have a McCosker's in a 20H that i've had for about a year and he is doing great. The 12g may be a little small but i think you could pull it off. I'm sure many people disagree though, and i can understand why. I also had a blue flasher at one point (he decided to go carpet surfing). The flashers are probably my favorite group of fish. Awesome personality.

I would be a little concerned with adding the high fin goby (yellowhead). I could be wrong but i had considered purchasing a yasha but was under the impression that it would not get along with my high fin in a 20gallon.

at one point i also had a striped fang blenny, got along fine with everyone. Lost that one to a power outage.

One last thought for the flashers... both the blue and the McCosker's that i had survived seperate ich outbreaks that killed most other fish in my tank. They seem to be very disease resistant. They are known jumpers though, so make sure you have a top.

The clown goby that was suggested would be cool too, i think you'd be fine adding a small group of them (3).
They aren't real active, but during feeding they start jumping all over the place. Cute little fish.
weeber
QUOTE (zachxbass @ Nov 15 2009, 12:17 PM) *
I like all of the fish that you had on the list, and at one point have had almost all of them. I have a McCosker's in a 20H that i've had for about a year and he is doing great. The 12g may be a little small but i think you could pull it off. I'm sure many people disagree though, and i can understand why. I also had a blue flasher at one point (he decided to go carpet surfing). The flashers are probably my favorite group of fish. Awesome personality.

I would be a little concerned with adding the high fin goby (yellowhead). I could be wrong but i had considered purchasing a yasha but was under the impression that it would not get along with my high fin in a 20gallon.

at one point i also had a striped fang blenny, got along fine with everyone. Lost that one to a power outage.

One last thought for the flashers... both the blue and the McCosker's that i had survived seperate ich outbreaks that killed most other fish in my tank. They seem to be very disease resistant. They are known jumpers though, so make sure you have a top.

The clown goby that was suggested would be cool too, i think you'd be fine adding a small group of them (3).
They aren't real active, but during feeding they start jumping all over the place. Cute little fish.

see i dont really want a clown goby or even a goby because i would like something that is active because my yasha goby is not out all of the time except around feeding time. thanks for all of your opinions.
weeber
im thinking about adding cherub angelfish to the list. any thoughts? smile.gif
lakshwadeep
A sleeper (yellow head) goby is not a good choice for a small tank because it's a sand sifter and doesn't stay small. They can get to 7" in length. However, your link is to a hi fin red banded goby is a great choice as they stay small and are not hyperactive.

Fang blennies are also fish that aren't small.

The sixline would be okay by itself.

+1 to the flasher wrasses being open water and very active fish, not good choices when you place one in a 12 gallon aquapod (which has less than 12 gallons of display space).
weeber
QUOTE (lakshwadeep @ Nov 15 2009, 04:54 PM) *
A sleeper (yellow head) goby is not a good choice for a small tank because it's a sand sifter and doesn't stay small. They can get to 7" in length. However, your link is to a hi fin red banded goby is a great choice as they stay small and are not hyperactive.

Fang blennies are also fish that aren't small.

The sixline would be okay by itself.

+1 to the flasher wrasses being open water and very active fish, not good choices when you place one in a 12 gallon aquapod (which has less than 12 gallons of display space).

by yellow head goby i meant the fish i put in the link because that is one of the names i know it by and i thought striped fang blennies only get like 3 inches and on live aquaria they have a type of fang blenny recommened for a nano aquarium.
lakshwadeep
QUOTE (weeber @ Nov 15 2009, 07:16 PM) *
i thought striped fang blennies only get like 3 inches and on live aquaria they have a type of fang blenny recommened for a nano aquarium.


The link you posted has lengths of 4.3" for both blennies. Two small fish is a good maximum, so your tank may be enough for one fang blenny and the hi fin goby.
BlueAbyss
QUOTE (weeber @ Nov 15 2009, 01:25 PM) *
see i dont really want a clown goby or even a goby because i would like something that is active because my yasha goby is not out all of the time except around feeding time. thanks for all of your opinions.


You obviously haven't done your research then. My goby is out all the time, but he's a herbivore so maybe that makes a difference. Also, Neon, Gold Neon and Sharknose Gobies are both perchers and hoverers (and are known to clean other fishes of parasites).

You would be better off with a Four Line rather than the Six Line. They are slightly smaller and seem to have a better record of survival. That and one other fish (with the other fish in first) should be the maximum you put in this tank, unless they are all going to be the size of Neon gobies. Then you could probably do 3 or 4. But when you're talking about a 3" fish, the max you should consider is 2. Specially since your tank actually only has about 8 gallons of swimming area (that's before rock and sand)... I'd go with a firefish (open water swimmer) and your goby and stop there. Considering how active something like a flasher or fairy wrasse is, I wouldn't consider this tank to be an acceptable home... that's like keeping your cat in the bathroom.

As far as the Cherub angel, I can guarantee that you won't be able to keep anything else in there with it.
weeber
QUOTE (lakshwadeep @ Nov 15 2009, 09:12 PM) *
The link you posted has lengths of 4.3" for both blennies. Two small fish is a good maximum, so your tank may be enough for one fang blenny and the hi fin goby.

as i haved mentiond before i already have a yasha goby in the tank and i only plan on putting one other fish in the tank.

QUOTE (BlueAbyss @ Nov 16 2009, 03:27 PM) *
You obviously haven't done your research then. My goby is out all the time, but he's a herbivore so maybe that makes a difference. Also, Neon, Gold Neon and Sharknose Gobies are both perchers and hoverers (and are known to clean other fishes of parasites).

You would be better off with a Four Line rather than the Six Line. They are slightly smaller and seem to have a better record of survival. That and one other fish (with the other fish in first) should be the maximum you put in this tank, unless they are all going to be the size of Neon gobies. Then you could probably do 3 or 4. But when you're talking about a 3" fish, the max you should consider is 2. Specially since your tank actually only has about 8 gallons of swimming area (that's before rock and sand)... I'd go with a firefish (open water swimmer) and your goby and stop there. Considering how active something like a flasher or fairy wrasse is, I wouldn't consider this tank to be an acceptable home... that's like keeping your cat in the bathroom.

As far as the Cherub angel, I can guarantee that you won't be able to keep anything else in there with it.

well i have done a bit of reasearch on the fish i am looking at and even though some of the minimum tank sizes are much larger than the size of my tank (and i do know that the display area of my tank is smaller than 12 gallons) you can never really trust them because on live aquaria it says that you should only keep a yellow clown goby in a 10 gallon or larger tank but people are keeping them in 2.5 gallon picos all of the time. I did consider some of the smaller gobies like trimmas and neon but i thought that they were just to small even though they stay out in the open. also my yasha does not come out to often he is usually hidding in his hole. I have kept a carpenters wrasse in a bio cube 14 with no problems so i thought another flasher wrasse would be ok in the tank and i have kept a fire fish before and i liked them but they just jump to much. i will add a group of neon gobies and trimma gobies to the poll because they i do like those fish.
BlueAbyss
Hmm, yeah liveaquaria is in the business of selling stuff, after all... some of their guidelines are a little strange laugh.gif

Now that I've reread my earlier post, it came off a little harsh... I didn't mean to imply that you hadn't done any research. I still stand by the 'cat in the bathroom' statement though... it might be alright, since the cat can indeed live in there healthfully, but what kind of life is that? wink.gif
asting
I think you're looking into stocking too heavily.
Size isn't all that matters, as the activity level of the fish does as well.

I'd say maybe a sixline and a sand-dwelling goby (shrimp gobies, etc) or a goby and a firefish.
It sucks, but don't torture the fish. if you want more upgrade to a larger aquarium.
fewskillz
QUOTE (weeber @ Nov 15 2009, 03:14 PM) *
im thinking about adding cherub angelfish to the list. any thoughts? smile.gif

DON'T DO IT. They swim way too much, I wouldn't keep one in anything smaller than a 30" long tank.
weeber
QUOTE (asting @ Nov 16 2009, 08:49 PM) *
I think you're looking into stocking too heavily.
Size isn't all that matters, as the activity level of the fish does as well.

I'd say maybe a sixline and a sand-dwelling goby (shrimp gobies, etc) or a goby and a firefish.
It sucks, but don't torture the fish. if you want more upgrade to a larger aquarium.

well i think a six line would be to aggresive for my tank and i am planning on upgrading my tank to a 180 gallon tank when we upgrade our house so any of the fish that i have are going to go into that tank so they wont be in the small tank for any more than 2 years.

QUOTE (fewskillz @ Nov 17 2009, 04:56 PM) *
DON'T DO IT. They swim way too much, I wouldn't keep one in anything smaller than a 30" long tank.

thanks for your opinion and same to everyone eles. smile.gif Please keep voting
lakshwadeep
A few very small gobies, like Trimmas or neon gobies, is a good choice.
weeber
bump the mccosker's wrasse has taken the lead. smile.gif
FrankenReef
Boo......white tip reef shark. They can respirate while stationary so they don't even have to swim. BOOM!!! That just happened.
fewskillz
A McCosker's isn't a good choice for your tank, it's just not enough room. They're great fish, don't get me wrong, I bought one today in fact, but they just need room to swim. If you want cooler fish upgrade tanks. Sorry.
crash43
i votd fer the 2-3 neon gobies, had one, it was awesome! whenever my hand went in the tank, he would git on it and 'clean' it it was pretty cool. plus i had it in there with the yasha, they didnt even hardly look at each other...
weeber
i decided to take off the trimma gobies because they were not to popular and i think i would have a hard time getting them. so i added a green banded goby trio instead because i have always like the way they looked, they are easier to get, and they are cheaper. please continue to vote. smile.gif
lakshwadeep
Eviota gobies are another choice. You can find them, and trimmas, on larger online stores like liveaquaria.
Jacobnano
I didn't read the whole thread so I hope the issue of the wrasses has been dealt with. No wrasse should go in a 12g.
weeber
QUOTE (lakshwadeep @ Nov 28 2009, 02:19 PM) *
Eviota gobies are another choice. You can find them, and trimmas, on larger online stores like liveaquaria.

yah i just saw some on diver's den but i would rather get the fish from my lfs.
QUOTE (Jacobnano @ Nov 28 2009, 02:21 PM) *
I didn't read the whole thread so I hope the issue of the wrasses has been dealt with. No wrasse should go in a 12g.

yah i figured that when i put it up.
davyraddy
Yellow or blue assessor. Colorful, stay small (~2.5"), act as dither fish, available aquacultured from ora (and much cheaper than wild, to boot), nonagressive, and i had one w/ a yasha w/o any issues.
weeber
QUOTE (davyraddy @ Nov 28 2009, 03:26 PM) *
Yellow or blue assessor. Colorful, stay small (~2.5"), act as dither fish, available aquacultured from ora (and much cheaper than wild, to boot), nonagressive, and i had one w/ a yasha w/o any issues.

really i do like these fish not the prettiest to me, but i like that they are dither fish. Did your assessor bring out your yasha more? smile.gif
i found it funny we both had candy basslets as our avatars.
davyraddy
QUOTE (weeber @ Nov 28 2009, 03:30 PM) *
really i do like these fish not the prettiest to me, but i like that they are dither fish. Did your assessor bring out your yasha more? smile.gif
i found it funny we both had candy basslets as our avatars.


sort of - my yasha was quite the shy fellow though.

my assessor looks better in real life as opposed to pics - the yellow hue is positively amazing.

Re: our avatars - is there a prettier fish out there? tongue.gif

Nemo Niblets
QUOTE (davyraddy @ Nov 28 2009, 05:18 PM) *
sort of - my yasha was quite the shy fellow though.

my assessor looks better in real life as opposed to pics - the yellow hue is positively amazing.

Re: our avatars - is there a prettier fish out there? tongue.gif


^Flame wrasse, Helfrich's firefish.

IMO tongue.gif
davyraddy
QUOTE (Nemo Niblets @ Nov 28 2009, 04:19 PM) *
^Flame wrasse, Helfrich's firefish.

IMO tongue.gif


had two helfrichi's - really pretty - but different ballpark c/w candy basslet. Imho of course!
weeber
QUOTE (davyraddy @ Nov 28 2009, 04:18 PM) *
sort of - my yasha was quite the shy fellow though.

my assessor looks better in real life as opposed to pics - the yellow hue is positively amazing.

Re: our avatars - is there a prettier fish out there? tongue.gif

im gonna add the assessor now.
cheryl jordan
QUOTE (weeber @ Nov 28 2009, 03:30 PM) *
really i do like these fish not the prettiest to me, but i like that they are dither fish. Did your assessor bring out your yasha more? smile.gif
i found it funny we both had candy basslets as our avatars.

Hey why not a rockfish their cool. Only kidding I would go for Green banded gobie, stays small, non aggressive and 12 gals is small. Good Luck biggrin.gif
NanoClown
get a couple of green banded gobies and call it a day smile.gif
weeber
QUOTE (cheryl jordan @ Nov 28 2009, 05:51 PM) *
Hey why not a rockfish their cool. Only kidding I would go for Green banded gobie, stays small, non aggressive and 12 gals is small. Good Luck biggrin.gif

i would probaly get a scorpion or frogfish if i didnt have a yasha goby i love those type of fish. i miss my old frogfish. sad.gif keep voting.
wombat
QUOTE (davyraddy @ Nov 28 2009, 01:18 PM) *
Re: our avatars - is there a prettier fish out there? tongue.gif


I don't know about your avatar but the pair in weeber's avatar are inside the tank in MY avatar. Biter! tongue.gif
weeber
QUOTE (wombat @ Nov 29 2009, 11:04 AM) *
I don't know about your avatar but the pair in weeber's avatar are inside the tank in MY avatar. Biter! tongue.gif

no way. what other fish are in there?
animalmaster6
I voted for the 2-3 Greenbanded Gobies. I used to have 1 in my 12 G. He was AWESOME!!! He eventually died from ich though tears01.gif My Hi FIn Goby is awesome! He is paired with my mated pair of Red Banded pistol Shrimps. I don't think he would go good with ur Yashia Goby though.

If ur tank was a few gallons bigger i would say get a flasher wrasse but 12 G is too small for one. Maybe u could get a small one though

Good Luck! smile.gif


O yeah- 60th vote tongue.gif
wombat
QUOTE (weeber @ Nov 29 2009, 08:06 AM) *
no way. what other fish are in there?


Mostly anthias.
weeber
QUOTE (wombat @ Nov 29 2009, 11:32 AM) *
Mostly anthias.

deepwater anthias? Thanks for all your opinions and votes but i want more.
weeber
not really but i am liking the green banded goby trio and the striped fang blenny or maybe a yellow assessor
animalmaster6
QUOTE (weeber @ Nov 29 2009, 11:54 AM) *
not really but i am liking the green banded goby trio and the striped fang blenny

Both are really AWESOME choices! Just whatever u do DONT GET THE SIXLINE!!! It will kill ur yasha
weeber
QUOTE (animalmaster6 @ Nov 29 2009, 11:56 AM) *
Both are really AWESOME choices! Just whatever u do DONT GET THE SIXLINE!!! It will kill ur yasha

thats wat i was thinking
animalmaster6
QUOTE (weeber @ Nov 29 2009, 12:05 PM) *
thats wat i was thinking

Ya i went to a public aquarium yester day and they had a six line wrasse in a live coral ehibit. it didn't even harm their mandarin or Engineer Goby! Their tank was HUGE though. I dought it would be the same in a 12 G
weeber
QUOTE (animalmaster6 @ Nov 29 2009, 12:25 PM) *
Ya i went to a public aquarium yester day and they had a six line wrasse in a live coral ehibit. it didn't even harm their mandarin or Engineer Goby! Their tank was HUGE though. I dought it would be the same in a 12 G

yah i really only put it on because they are pretty and active.
animalmaster6
QUOTE (weeber @ Nov 29 2009, 12:41 PM) *
yah i really only put it on because they are pretty and active.

oooooh So u want active fish. I didn't know that.

Try these fish:Royal Gramma, Firefish, Helfrichi Firefish, Orange Lined Cardinalfish, pajama Cardinalfish

All of them are really cool and interesting and peaceful fish!
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