Klink67
Nov 9 2009, 11:22 AM
Are they really worth there price? How much is reasonable per polyp? I like the look of them I am just worried that they might all of a sudden go down in value. Were is the cheapest place to get them?
DHaut
Nov 9 2009, 11:23 AM
I wouldn't buy them as an investment, personally. You never know when fads and trends will decide to switch directions.
Lawnman
Nov 9 2009, 11:28 AM
50-70 a head is the price. They have been know to look good one day and melt the next.
Sushi
Nov 9 2009, 11:28 AM
QUOTE (DHaut @ Nov 9 2009, 08:23 AM)

I wouldn't buy them as an investment, personally. You never know when fads and trends will decide to switch directions.
Agreed... your best bet is to look in the FS sections from members selling frags. Most of the online vendors will be more expensive than fellow reefers.
JohnOTS
Nov 9 2009, 11:42 AM
Why let yourself get sucked into fads? That price is just crazy! You can always find good looking pieces for much cheaper... Sorry, just my opinion.
burtbollinger
Nov 9 2009, 11:54 AM
not worth 5 bucks a polyp....the ultimate example of fad corals gone hilariously wrong.
skimlessinseattle
Nov 9 2009, 12:00 PM
QUOTE (JohnOTS @ Nov 9 2009, 11:42 AM)

Why let yourself get sucked into fads? That price is just crazy! You can always find good looking pieces for much cheaper... Sorry, just my opinion.

Truth. Fads in this hobby cost big bucks and are just plain stupid. If you really want them, go for it, but if you give it a year or two, you might be able to pick up the same frags for pennies on the dollar.
Consider your system first, determine what will be compatible, and then find something reasonable! Would you rather have a brilliant reef, or a brilliant frag?
juniormmm
Nov 9 2009, 12:24 PM
They are worth what ever price you give them. I do not think a Jaguar car is worth 80k, so I do not own one. But many people out there do. I do not think most chalice frags out there are worth $100, so I don't have one. But many reefers out there do.
It's all relevant to your likes, and how much you're willing to pay for it. If I find a coral that I really like, I will be willing to pay the money to get it. Not because it is a fad or because it costs alot. I will pay for it because I like it. We are used to paying too much for not enough in this society. But in the end it is you who decides whether or not the product justifies the price. Not the govt, not your friends, not your family (except maybe your wife/husband), but you.
As for the usual costs. Fellow reefers usually sell them from $50-$80 a polyp. I usually see them in stores and businesses for around $100-$140 a polyp.
If you really enjoy them and have the money go for it. If you don't have the money put them on your wishlist and start saving up.
Phyto4life
Nov 9 2009, 12:34 PM
if your lucky in a few year's there might be few people selling them for $3 buck's each but no guarantees there is a limit to how much a polyp can fall if we go by the 50 cent logic then stores should just pack up now and give everything away for free it take a person with a scuba tank to collect some specimens and if they were common every store would have them
pmoradi2002
Nov 9 2009, 04:25 PM
$50 pp.
Nanobuds
Nov 9 2009, 04:26 PM
i would but one $15 a polyp max. i think they are way toooo overpriced
Klink67
Nov 9 2009, 08:15 PM
Are there any zoas that are actually worth there price PP. I was thinking of some nightmares or darth mauls which are $20 PP. I do want an actual investment coral for my tank. I think PPE have stayed constant right?
Lawnman
Nov 9 2009, 08:23 PM
There are alot of cool zoas that will only be 10-15 a poly. I have a 5 head frag of bam bams plus a baby is starting to grow in the livestock forum for sale for 20 plus 12 shipping.Check it out.
Also got some Green people eaters for 10 dollars a 2 head frag.
HeyLookItsCaps
Nov 9 2009, 08:24 PM
ya, the chalice fad is like that for me, i wont buy em cuz they look ugly to me. corals are all about how much you value them
moto826
Nov 12 2009, 10:59 AM
i bought one and would do it again when i frag it i will get most of my money back plus i wanted to be in the cool coral group
if you want them buy them if not keep looking
Phyto4life
Nov 12 2009, 11:03 AM
QUOTE (Nanobuds @ Nov 9 2009, 04:26 PM)

i would but one $15 a polyp max. i think they are way toooo overpriced

$15 for purple hornet's over the long run is where I think they will settle at
even now if you keep looking you can find them for $40 but when I start selling them this spring I'll probably sell them for $30
GiantBen
Nov 12 2009, 11:08 AM
QUOTE (Klink67 @ Nov 9 2009, 05:15 PM)

Are there any zoas that are actually worth there price PP.
"Worth" is up to you.
It is a personal decision If it is worth spending the asking price to be able to look at it. If you are going to try and grow it out/resell it, then you run some more risk. Especially since what you are doing should increase supply and possibly reduce demand.
Orphicdragon
Nov 12 2009, 11:14 AM
QUOTE (Klink67 @ Nov 9 2009, 08:15 PM)

Are there any zoas that are actually worth there price PP. I was thinking of some nightmares or darth mauls which are $20 PP. I do want an actual investment coral for my tank. I think PPE have stayed constant right?
Not trying to be a jerk, but generally if you ask a question like this, you probably shouldn't purchase something to be used as an investment
yetYeah my Darth Maul was worth the 25$ I paid for it, because I like it. It has grown like a weed, I dig the color it adds to my tank and I would totally buy it again if I had it to do over. Most of my other zoa's went in the 2-3$ a polyp range, and if you are trying to recoup some of the livestock money you spent, I would go that route. I have 1 25$ polyp and 40 or so 2-3$ polyps and it looks like other reefers have the same basic ratio going on. A few $$$$$ polpys and a bunch of plentiful, pretty but less expensive ones. Why not start there?
Take a look at this thread for example
http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=213804Radioactive Dragon Eye's are by no means rare, now do the math on what he made.....ok now look at how fast they went.
Just my .02 but I would go the run of the mill route for a while, use THAT money to buy some higher end stuff then frag and repeat.
shan
Nov 12 2009, 11:25 AM
I bought 4 polyps of Purple Hornets on jan 9th of this year on Ebay. I paid $350 for the frag. My little frag has now grown into a small colony of 24 Hornets. I didnt buy them as an investment. I bought them because they were beautiful and different. I am selling them now for $750 for the colony only because I would like to buy some more corals for my Solana, and others may like the purple hornets as much as I do.
I look at corals like I look at art. DO NOT buy it ever as an investment. Buy it only because you love looking at it. If you make money down the road by selling it, then thats good, If you dont, then enjoy the coral for what you bought it for. Its beauty!
Phyto4life
Nov 12 2009, 11:34 AM
The beauty about this type of artwork is that it grows and multiplies into potentially more artwork if you realy want different artwork and if your dedicated to it you can accumulate multiple master pieces and upgraded showroom's with a little dedication
shan
Nov 12 2009, 11:37 AM
QUOTE (Phyto4life @ Nov 12 2009, 10:34 AM)

The beauty about this type of artwork is that it grows and multiplies into potentially more artwork if you realy want different artwork and if your dedicated to it you can accumulate multiple master pieces and upgraded showroom's with a little dedication
exactly! And my small colony of hornets is more beautiful than the original 4 were!
Lawnman
Nov 12 2009, 11:38 AM
Did you sell them yet?
skimlessinseattle
Nov 12 2009, 11:38 AM
QUOTE (shan @ Nov 12 2009, 11:25 AM)

I bought 4 polyps of Purple Hornets on jan 9th of this year on Ebay. I paid $350 for the frag. My little frag has now grown into a small colony of 24 Hornets. I didnt buy them as an investment. I bought them because they were beautiful and different. I am selling them now for $750 for the colony only because I would like to buy some more corals for my Solana, and others may like the purple hornets as much as I do.
I look at corals like I look at art. DO NOT buy it ever as an investment. Buy it only because you love looking at it. If you make money down the road by selling it, then thats good, If you dont, then enjoy the coral for what you bought it for. Its beauty!
I hope your fragging that colony and keeping a few polyps for yourself!
Orphicdragon
Nov 12 2009, 11:50 AM
QUOTE (skimlessinseattle @ Nov 12 2009, 11:38 AM)

I hope your fragging that colony and keeping a few polyps for yourself!
No he is too scared to fark 'em up, a wise choice IMO
mikedege
Nov 12 2009, 12:02 PM
I guess if they're sold, they were worth it to somebody! If they're not sold then they are priced too high.
simple as that! Supply and Demand at its best!
Keep us updated.
-Mike
shan
Nov 12 2009, 12:05 PM
QUOTE (mikedege @ Nov 12 2009, 11:02 AM)

I guess if they're sold, they were worth it to somebody! If they're not sold then they are priced too high.
simple as that! Supply and Demand at its best!
Keep us updated.
-Mike

Well they are "sold" but I havent heard back from the guy this morning, so they are getting ready to go back on the block in an hour or so.
I would love to keep one or two for myself, but I just dont want to take the chance of ruining the colony or killing the two polyps since i have never fragged before. I love them and really dont want to get rid of them all, but its kinda an all-or-nothing colony lol
Chest Rockwell
Nov 12 2009, 03:18 PM
If I were you I would take that colony into your LFS or a local reef club member with fragging experience - tell them in exchange for fragging for you you'll give them a polyp or two. If they grow that well, you should try to keep at least one of them in your tank and get them going again. Just my .02.
mikedege
Nov 12 2009, 06:45 PM
Akwarius
Nov 14 2009, 06:28 AM
QUOTE (Phyto4life @ Nov 12 2009, 09:34 AM)

The beauty about this type of artwork is that it grows and multiplies into potentially more artwork if you realy want different artwork and if your dedicated to it you can accumulate multiple master pieces and upgraded showroom's with a little dedication
Well said.
Intrinsic vs. Monetary value. Personally I want my corals to have both.
rrcg50
Nov 14 2009, 08:02 AM
i will take them and if wanted i will frag 2 polyps for you and send them back. let me know because i just got scammed from someone in a trade for hornets....
rich
nemmy
Nov 14 2009, 06:41 PM
I saw a whole colony of those suckers at a LFS today, it was like 60 bucks for about 30 polyps, i guess i should have bought it to frag u for you guys. (at fair prices that is)
Phyto4life
Nov 14 2009, 07:10 PM
QUOTE (nemmy @ Nov 14 2009, 06:41 PM)

I saw a whole colony of those suckers at a LFS today, it was like 60 bucks for about 30 polyps, i guess i should have bought it to frag u for you guys. (at fair prices that is)
Hurry while they last
nemmy
Nov 14 2009, 07:16 PM
QUOTE (Phyto4life @ Nov 14 2009, 07:10 PM)

Hurry while they last

They were labelled as Purple Hornets, but i didn't notice if the skirts were alternating colors (ive seen some that weren't before and i guess arent officially purple hornets). Would anyone be interested in frags if i got them?
Lawnman
Nov 14 2009, 07:32 PM
They were probally deep water zoas.You have to look at the skirts and the ring in the middle.
Ow and Shan sold those already
fiction101
Nov 14 2009, 07:36 PM
QUOTE (Klink67 @ Nov 9 2009, 09:15 PM)

Are there any zoas that are actually worth there price PP. I was thinking of some nightmares or darth mauls which are $20 PP. I do want an actual investment coral for my tank. I think PPE have stayed constant right?
Waste your money on chalices then.
nemmy
Nov 14 2009, 07:59 PM
QUOTE (Lawnman @ Nov 14 2009, 07:32 PM)

They were probally deep water zoas.You have to look at the skirts and the ring in the middle.
Ow and Shan sold those already
They had the ring in the middle, but like i said i didnt take notice to the skirt. I was too busy drooling over a hammer coral.
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