I saw you hadn't posted since before Christmas and I was about ready to send a search party out for you. This was def worth the wait though. Looks great, keep up the good work.

nice and clean evil. definately top quality. will it come in black? also what is the par rating for it?

now i just have to get a pico

that light is epic.

Nice light. You desk looks just like mine too after my weekly coke can and empty coffee roundup lol.

My desk is an absolute disaster right now. So many tools, parts, projects and junk on it. Needs to be cleaned, but not right now.

The light still needs a little polish. The heatsink was a first run that Chris and I did late at night when we met up a few months back. We learned a lot about how to machine it since then, so it will be a lot cleaner. The next prototype will be anodized black, and will be that way in production too. Got a few more things I want to polish off too.

Performance has been pretty good so far. At full tilt, I was measuring about 250 PAR on the sand. That's more than enough for most any coral you could want. We are not 100% sure if dimming will stay for production models because of the patent issue. This is really killing the industry.

I hope to have the new parts soon so I can build up a final prototype. Should look pretty sexy in black.

oh my gawd.... anodized black?! EXCELLENT!

nice. what patent? you mean some else patented dimming capabilities? what is this world coming to?


the black will definately look sexy!

http://www.orbitec.com/LEDaquarium.html

OR

http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=185167

well then how is the kr-92 produced. does eco-lamps not have to abide by the patent or are they paying royalties?

Don't know. Do they manufacture in the US or over seas?

Eco-Lamps operates outside of the US, so they can get around it. They can get nailed for importing into the country though, but Orbitec hasn't picked on them yet.

Great looking tank, love the light. You do some great work with that stuff!

Slick looking light. definitely an upgrade to having a huge sunpod or something stuck on top of a pico.

money hungry people. oh well. we live in out own little world. lol

Thanks. I try


Ya. Doesn't quite look like a massive lump on top of a little tank. Hard to do without LEDs. I think I can make it even thinner. You may have to come over and check it out some time AJ.


Sad but true. I would have less anger towards them if they actually had a product of their own.

Oh for sure. I'm a huge fan of ingenuity... Of course it doesn't hurt that this will come anodized black as well!

any news if are going to start making these pico fixtures??

Nice looking fixture, mate. Sucks about the ever-lingering patent issues shooting you in the foot (I love Orbitec, but goddamn, drop the patent thing already!), though surely there must be some way to skirt it being that you're a smaller product producer?

How're you finding the Luxeons compare to the CREEs for colour binning and stuff? We don't get them over here so I've never seen them up close.

They will be made. It's just a matter of when. I want to build up one more prototype as a finished product, then Chris and I need to figure out the cost end of things.


Why do you love Orbitech? Nothing to love there IMO. If they actually had a product on the market, that would be one thing.

Luxeons are similar, and the tint from one LED to the next is pretty close. The end colors are slightly different than the Crees, but nothing off-putting. The royals seem to have a little more purple to them. One of these days I'll get an XR-E and a Rebel on the spectrometer to see the spectral differences.

Hi this is my second post new to this stuff.Anyway i have a jbj 6g cube and i like the light setup you have. I live in australia, I have been reading a lot of posts about leds. And i figure i might all well get it right from the start. And you seem to be the man, so the question is can you buy something here in aus, I cant seem to find much information about leds over here. I see the maxspect 60w has a compact version, Also the eco lamps look good, but they are a bit bulky . Maybe you can suggest something suitable. I dont really want to diy . Time is a bit of an issue. If you cant suggest something .Maybe you could let me know your choice between the maxspect or the eco lamps . the maxspect are lot cheaper. But are they similar quality to the eco. You thoughts would be appreciated...ps i want to keep some acans possible some lps sps...

I don't think that it would occur to most inventors today that they could have patented a dimmable LED.

LEDs have always been dimmable. It is how they work. And we have had LEDs for over 40 years.

You give them more power, they become brighter. It is how they work.

They have also been available in various colors for that same amount of time. It is how they work.

So, in effect, it is like someone convincing the patent office that you invented the letter E, and be given a patent on it. No one really expects to actually get that patent, because it has been around a long time.

What this company did was convince the patent office that they invented two features that all LEDs have inherently. And they were given a patent for it. And that will not change until someone challenges them in the courts.

Orbitec was not even a company when the first dimmable colored LEDs were actually invented. But that does not matter. They have the money to pay IP whores/lawyers to send out cease and desist letters to scare anyone who has a dimmable LEDs system. And most of those people don't have the money to fight them. So they cave.

Compuserve held the patent on the .gif image format. Because they actually invented it. They tried to enforce the patent, and lost several lawsuits. They don't try to enforce the patent now. Because everyone violated their patent. I do, you do, this site does. Everyone violates it. Plus the 10/20 years of patent protection is over anyway.

Either option would work, and the quality seems similar on both. Those are probably going to be your only two commercial options though for the time being.

Thanks for the reply .I suppose you get asked a bit about making custom leds for the members etc .I think you would have a niche market here .
money does speak all languages

No time unfortunately.

lemme know when this fixture will hit the classifides, id be happy to test a prototype

Won't be in the classifieds. When it's ready, it will be for sale on the Nanocustoms/Nanotuners website.

Can't wait to see this LED fixture . . .

Currently working on a Picotope build and have a new dual 12" current satellite waiting to go on it, but I was considering the par38 pendant and now this! Having individual controls over the actinic, daylight and moonlight on the satellite is great - but not having to change lamps for almost forever is even better

Evilc66, any chance these can be modded to be dimmable if they aren't offered that way?

sellout....





















j/k

*make yer $$ son!

Because of the patent issue currently in place, these may not ship dimmable. We are still deciding which way to go. Mine is dimmable though


Why I oughta...!!!!

Evilc doesn't forget his roots.

what about the new pico lamps on my 6g would that suffice. i want to eventually kept a range of corals . If i could use them would i go 1 or 2. Sorry for all the questions buy i want to get it right. If there is such a thing

Which lamp? The PAR38? What are the dimensions of the tank?

is a jbj nano 6g do you think the par38 would be ok

Ya.

Evil: I'm a little confused. How many LEDs is in the par 38 bulb? As I have just ordered 9 x Cree XR-E's for my 5gal tank.

There are 5 LEDs in the PAR38. I have a feeling I know where your question is leading, and you have 9 LEDs to provide more consistant coverage for your tank. The 5 LEDs that are used in the PAR38s create a very different look (much more pronounced shadows), and the optics raise the PAR levels. Your setup will have about the same PAR levels (as well as being adjustable) with the LEDs mounted closer to the tank, but will have far more even coverage.

Cheers! Glad I went with the 9 then definitelty Building my pendant right now, hopefully ready in a week

First and foremost I'm an aerospace nut... which means it's a bit of a sore point seeing the bull#### associated with reefing going against their other research. Regardless of any allegiance... I'm just interested to see what would be possible in an open market. Progress is a powerful thing, and I guess some are afraid of it. Sucks but it's life.

I'd definitely love to see a spectral analysis of them side-by-side, unlike most other forms of lighting there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of spectrum plots to go off of available to us. Still, the proof seems to be in the pudding in terms of colour quality..

Yeah, I may have to bust out the spectrometer this week.

Any idea at all what the new fixtures price rang will be??

Do you ever get tired of talking Leds?It just seems thats all people ask you about.

By the way love the tank and the water line on the side is a great idea wish I would of thought of that when I painted mine.lol

Not yet. Trying to keep it as low as possible.


Never get tired of it. IMO, the more people talk about it, the more people are going to be willing to use the technology. I'm a big fan of lighting technology in general.

i went the 20000k 80 optics from nanocustoms yesterday thanks for all your help

Sure. Hope you like it.

check this floor lamp out $80 aussie dollars. It slides up and down. I can always cut back a bit to make it looks a bit less intrusive, once i find the desired height. I will take the shade off for heat issues. But it does look good with it on. Whatcha reckon?

O.k. Well you will let us all know when pricing is released....... That would be somethin I'd be all over for my Finnex!
Sleek, high performance, elegant fixture.....

Looks good to me.


Of course I will let you guys know. I have a different mount for the Finnex and JBJ crew. It will be a side mount so that you can still keep HOB filters on the back wall.

Nice.
Will there be options as far as color combos? Meaning LED combo....15K,20K, ect..

Not sure. Depends on how we feel about dimming control.