ok so i got this bi-color angel but havent seen him eat in about 3days... i was wondering if any of yall have had one and what i should feed him

so you got him before you knew what to feed him? nice! tell me have you squeezed him irresponsibily in the 10g or irresponsibly the 25?

What size tank, 25...?



lol. beat me to it, it seems



Yikes! these bad boys get up to 6" according to liveaquaria

hes likely in deep trouble as youve got him in an overstocked tank that is too small. your best bet is not to figure out his eating requirements, but to return him immediately and begin reading so you can figure out exactly what is and isnt appropriate.

looking thru your threads, I think it would be in your best interest not to trust the experience of people who have joined this website in the latter months of 2009....too many noobs advising noobs around here.

please consider removing him and returning him, along with figuring out what the fish is that you put in your tank that you describe as a black, white and yellow fish.

please slow down, and learn a bit more before continuing.

by the way, having 2 tanks going at once is a mistake for a beginner. I'd highly recommend you focus all your efforts on one tank.

if I come across as blunt I apologize in advance, but you really gotta step your game up....and start asking questions, THEN acting, not the other way around.

well hes really small about 2inches maybe and my mom brought him home because she liked him. hes in the 25... with a clown fish.

big mistake listening to ANYONE but yourself. Bless your mom for her support, but you need to kindly tell her not to purchase livestock for you.

remember youre the expert, not anyone else when it comes to your tanks.

the angel needs to go back or you'll watch him die....too small....not humane IMO....

I in no way am trying to trash you, btw...everyone was a beginner once, and LFS employees dont make it easy on people....I know this from my own horrible beginners experiences....

first step....lets work on you not overstocking tanks, and housing the wrong fish. It looks like your 10g has the same sorts of themes running through it.

yea it does have alot but ive seen peoples tanks stocked with lots of livestock and they seem to do be doing fine...

so im gonna take him back to the lfs 2moro after work.

many LFS call this animal a bi color angel. i hope hes talking about this species.

yeah...some people overstock, I think it can be a case of "know the rules before you can break them"....combined with running media reactors along with oversized skimmers and such.

I think in your case, this bicolor angel is just not a good fit with what you have going on....any angel IMO is not a good nano fish...(again, my opinion) The smallest tank I'd keep one in would maybe be a 39g.

props for considering taking him back. If you'd like, keep watching this thread and see if folks agree with me or not...

in the meantime, keep asking questions and seeking knowledge...its a never ending process. just remember, the correct process in this hobby almost always involves slow, informed progression....good luck

thnks burt as well as everyone else.

and caps its not tht kind this isnt mine but it looks like this

ah okay, ya that can turn ino a HUGE fish!

You might want to PM a moderator to move this thread out of the water chemistry forum.

wow....yeah, that fish has to go back to the store ASAP. sorry bub

well it was nice knowing him haha
ill prolly trade him in for a clown

Make sure you're getting an ocellaris or percula clown. You might see something like a maroon or tomato clown, but they get big like the angel and are aggressive (all clowns are in the damselfish family).

oh yea def. im thinking of b/w ocellaris or percula but i want 2 of them that would be ideal for my tank right

Roland, although Burt seems blunt, I would tend to agree with what he's said so far, although I don't think that you've done everything wrong just yet. Making a bad call on livestock choices is bound to happen, and fortunately it's one of the easier mistakes to get out of.

Angelfish can be kept in smaller tanks (within reason of course! a 25g is definitely on the small end, even for the smallest centropyge angels), however, the care becomes a lot more involved and so does picking the appropriate livestock to go along with the angelfish. As for why it's not eating? Could be a number of things but one thing to keep in mind is that angelfish are almost exclusively wild caught. Add to that they are hardy fish and that means they can carry all sorts of parasites & diseases which might not affect them in the wild but will affect them once they get stressed out being captured, shipped, purchased, and acclimated to a new tank. For a beginner the best environment for an angel is a larger tank, at least 6 months old to encourage it's natural foraging behavior. Additionally, angels can be picky eaters and they fit into the omnivore category very well. They eat everything (although that's not always a good thing!). So to keep it healthy you need to be able to feed it a wide variety of foods (sponges, algae, worms, crustaceans....).

Anyways, listen to laks on the clown recommendation. Don't you already have another clown in the tank? If you do, you might consider moving the clown and getting a pair (typically clowns should all be introduced at the same time to minimize aggression). I really like the scape you have in your 25 tall, but there's not a lot of "territory" due to the smaller footprint. You might consider a good open water fish like a firefish or a cardinalfish. Good luck.

sorry if I was too blunt on ya

The Angel fish sure is beautiful and I am sorry you have to return her, however a Firefish is a lovely creature as well and they are fun to watch once they come out of hiding after a few days.

Good Luck with your tanks

Just to concur, the Bicolor angel, if you see a mature one, is just barely a Centropyge size-wise and it definitly does not fit the "dwarf" name. I've seen a couple look cramped in 90 gallons before, but those were also a freak pair of fish that had made it to about 7".