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got2envy
I am starting a new thread so that I can MOD easier mellow.gif
old thread is here, it will be closed due to it being a hawt mess.
Unofficial 12" cube contest

You can click on the contestants links below to follow their progress

Official starting date 9/21/09 official ending date 3/15/10 at Midnight Eastern time


A picture of a T shirt was asked to be posted by the contestants in an empty tank to make sure that everyone started on the same day. If a picture was not posted by 10/5/09 the first FTS pic day at midnight you are disqualified. That is unless you do not have your tank yet.

Thank You Lucid Propagations for the great prizes!!



LUCID PROPAGATIONS

1st prize: $100 Gift Certificate
2nd prize: $50 Gift Certificate
3rd prize: $25 Gift Certificate


And get a free frag with any order from any contest participant from Lucid Propagations!

-Contestants have the option of having a raised (for media rack) or lowered (for fuge) baffle.

This contest is based around the idea that everyone starts with the same exact aquarium, same dimensions, material, false wall, etc. (most of which are being built by erickrm)

Rules:
-spending limit of $250 for livestock
-If the livestock dies, gets eaten, jumps ship or is taken out for it's health or just plain taken out for another coral IT IS NOT DEDUCTED.
-All Livestock has a Generic Listing to go by below, if there is something not listed that you need priced please PM me. Do not post for prices on your thread.
-No sumps allowed, the tank must be an AIO, with the same exact design as the one's erickrm is building. No adding HOB fuges, canister filter's, etc. to avoid adding volume
-"The contest is a 12" AIO cube contest, this doesn't need to be more difficult than need be, use the area in the tank that makes this an AIO for your pump, filtration etc and that's it. This isn't the here's a cube add 400 million outside extra's contest." This will be taken into account when judging for the aquariums is done.
- Winner will be decided by a poll at the end of the contest.
-No restrictions on lighting or other hardware in terms of price.
-everyone starts on the same day, to assure this you will be asked to place a random item in your empty tank, the day before the supposed starting date, and take a picture.
-A FTS update of your aquarium is required every other Monday starting 10/5/ 09 by midnight for the first five months and weekly for the last month, although the more updates the better.
- a link to FTS's are to be on post #1 in your thread and stay there for the duration of contest. The link should say the date. example: FTS 10/5/09
-Pictures must be your own!! Do not use googled pics or someone elses pictures in your thread for pricing or any other reason.
- A list with deductions of livestock and equipment used is to be on Post #1 in your thread

- The contest will last 6 months ending 3/21/10 at midnight Eastern time
- You can build you own aquarium as long as it is the same exact dimensions, material, design, as the one's erickrm is building, if you have any questions in regards to this, PM erickrm. It has to be EXACTLY the same dimensions.
-DEADLINE TO PAY ERICKRM IS JULY 31st
-Pictures must be your own!! do not google images or use someone elses in your thread. Pictures for pricing coral must be your own.

Contestants:
-harthag *Disqualified*
-Isakshu *Disqualified*
-Simplenough *Disqualified*
-nosser
-bluefunelment *Disqualified*
-JoeD
-lajz9(raised baffle to run media rack) *Disqualified*
-shoot me I explode *Disqualified*
-hayseed7 *Disqualified*
-Bob21115(raise the baffle to run a media rack)
-Watts *Disqualified*
-JavaJacketOC *Disqualified*
-Doc Frye *Disqualified*(raise the baffle to run a media rack)
-1337TANKHAX *Disqualified*
-jaygalindo *Disqualified*
-jokercykoe *Disqualified*
-scooternerd (building his own) *Disqualified*
-wljimbo *Disqualified*
- thelastlaugh9 *Disqualified*
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Generic Coral Price List

SOFTIES

Zoas and Paly's

No names- $ .30 PP
not really colorful at all
Common- $1 PP
EE, Whammin' watermelons, red skirts, dragon eyes, pink panthers etc.
Nice- $5 PP
Nukes, PD's, Tubbs blues, Bam Bam's,AOG's, RPE etc.
Rare- $20 PP
Magicians, PPE, Hornets, Captain America

Mushrooms

Any morph- $5 each
All Yumas/Ricordias- $10


GSP, Cloves, Pipe organ

Frag up to 3"- $5

Xenia

Pom Pom -$5 per stalk
Blue xenia - $8 per stalk
Anthelia up to 4" - $5


All Leathers

Frag up to 4" tall- $5

LPS

Fungias- any color $30
Brains- $35
Frogspawn/Hammer/Torch/duncans- $5 per head
Trumpets any color- $3 per head
Blastos- $10 per head
Micromussa -$30
Favias up to 4" -$25
Goniopora up to 5" -$15
Dendros- $15 per head
Sun Coral- $25 up to 5" frag

Acans
Common -$5 per head
Nice -$10 per head
Rare -$20 per head

Chalice-
Common -$5 per eye
Nice -$10 per eye
Rare -$20 per eye


SPS

Any Morph- branching, encrusting, caps etc.
1/2" -1" -$5
1"-2" -$10
2" - 3" - $20
3" - 5" $30

Clams-

Small- $30
Medium - $40
Large- $50

Mini Nems-

Any morph $10 each

Macros-

If it came on your live rock it is free as a hitchiker
Any Macro - $2 a sandwich bag
Mangroves- $1 each
Gargonians, sea fans, sea whips- $3 each
Sponges- $2 each

CUC and Invertebrates

Assorted hermits- $.69 each
Mexican Turbo snail-$1.00 each
Ceriths- $.25
Astraea snails- $.25 each
Nerite snails- $.75 each
Nassarius snails- $.75 each
Conch - $3 each
Cowrie - $2 each
Nudibranch/sea hares- $5 each
Assorted Sea stars- $ 6 each
Coral banded shrimp- $5 each
Skunk Cleaner shrimp- $20 each
Harlequin shrimp- $20 each
Sexy shrimp-$10 each
Fire shrimp- $30 each
Peppermint shrimp-$3 each
Pom Pom crab- $10 each
Porcelain crab- $10 each
Emerald crab- $10 each
Pistol Shrimp- $9 each
Feather duster -$8 each
Coco worm- $15 each

If you add any fish or inverts to your tank that are cheaper than my generic price or Live Aquaria please post a pic of receipt in your thread.


Fish

Since there is such a large variety on this we will refer to the Liveaquaria.com pricing. If you do have a link,then post it on your thread and we will use that price.


If I am missing anything please PM me
If I gave you a previous price please refer to this guide and change accordingly.


Play nice boyz...don't muck up the thread. tongue.gif

Maria
spanko
Now that is a tip top posting job!!!!!!!!
wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif
bluefunelement
yeah that last thread was like welcomesign.gif and happydance.gif then it was like totally rant01.gif wacko.gif omgomgomg.gif until a mod decided to lockdown.gif owneddance.gif and it became mellow.gif and now we're all grouphug.gif

maybe I should never again use emoticons?

FTS posted - trying to id and tally costs now... blingbling-1.gif
bob21115
Are you going to PM everyone the new thread. I don't think everyone will be able to find it?
bob21115
QUOTE (Doc Frye @ Oct 6 2009, 08:02 AM) *
So prices that have been okayed before, are now null and void, and we need to recalculate?


Yes you do, but you should make out better. You should have more to spend after the recalculation...
bob21115
QUOTE (Doc Frye @ Oct 6 2009, 09:32 AM) *
I bought 2 blood red shrimp from Live Aquaria the week we were allowed to add saltwater for $38. We use Live Aquaria as a price reference, but now I have to charge my budget $60 for them? etc etc etc


$38 each?

The Divers Den always has pairs for $79.99 a pair. Live Aquaria they are 29.99ea (Indo) or 34.99ea (Sri Lanka)

Maria has them listed at $30 ea
bob21115
QUOTE (Doc Frye @ Oct 6 2009, 10:32 AM) *
They ran a week long special at $18.99 each. I thought it was too good of a price to pass up. Bought 3 actually, and put 2 in this tank.


Date Order Placed: September 23, 2009
Bill-To:
David Frye
Milan Area Animal Hospital
10101 Tecumseh-Clinton HW
Tecumseh, MI 49286
Day: 734-439-2273
Evening: 734-439-2273
dr.frye.dvm@sbcglobal.net Ship-To:
David Frye
Milan Area Animal Hospital
517 West Main Street
Milan, MI 48160
Day: 734-439-2273
Evening: 734-439-2273
Tracking Information: Your tracking number will arrive with your shipment confirmation email.
Order Number: A2687697
Shipping Category 1: Fish/Corals/Inverts/Tank Cleaners/Algae - Ships from California
Item Details:
CN-90056 SW - Sexy Anemone Shrimp - Tiny Qty: 6, Price: $9.99 each = $59.94
CN-78465 SW - Blood Red Fire Shrimp (Sri Lanka) Qty: 3, Price: $18.99 each = $56.97
CN-89518 SW - Halloween Hermit Crab Qty: 3, Price: $8.99 each = $26.97
CN-80645 SW - Dispar Anthias (Fiji) - Small Qty: 1, Price: $24.99 each = $24.99
Subtotal: $168.87
FedEx Std. Overnight Air: $34.99
Shipping Category 1 Sub-total: $203.86



Pm that to maria.

got2envy
Unfortunately with the new generic pricing all previous prices are null and void. This is what we agreed on, and that we would use the price list, I have turned others down on sale prices as well, this is why I liked the original way better...some get deals on some things and others don't.
Fire shrimp are $30 each
Please use the List and recalculate prices.
jaygalindo
thanks maria, can't have cake and eat it too. New pricing benefits more than hurts in the long run for example, $100 pp zoas like purple hornets are only charged $20pp. Sounds like a great deal to me just wish I could afford some to take advantage of the pricing.
bob21115
QUOTE (got2envy @ Oct 6 2009, 10:50 AM) *
Unfortunately with the new generic pricing all previous prices are null and void. This is what we agreed on, and that we would use the price list, I have turned others down on sale prices as well, this is why I liked the original way better...some get deals on some things and others don't.
Fire shrimp are $30 each
Please use the List and recalculate prices.


I predict a avatar change.
harthag12
What the, I'm disqualified? Sunday we got people holding off posting picts because they didn't want to be a day early, I'm a day late because I didn't post a pict of the 0 things in my tank? I'll post a picture of the empty tank w/ water in it. Here's my update, I removed all the rock w/ aiptasia, I've been scraping it off the sand and walls. I have water in my tank, nothing running. I flooded my basement last night while making Ro/Di water to do water changes on all my tanks. This is my 4th flood, I've decided hell w/ my larger tanks and am giving the livestock away tonight to a fellow reefer & breaking down the tanks only keeping this one, I may move some coral and rock from my tank into this little one because of this. I can take a pict of me breaking crap down w/ a newspaper dated today though taking picts is not really on my priority list since I'm not thrilled to be breaking down my tank and my carpet is still wet so I'll be working on that. Also today's my b'day, so far it's not been a thrilling one, the rest of being 31 better get better.
got2envy
Ok Menz! I know that there will be days when we have caca happen. I don't care if you post your FTS as early as Friday and state that it is the FTS for that Monday...I know some of these are at the work place and people go away on the weekend and so forth.

harthag12 is disqualified as per the rules. If you guys think he should stay since it is the first FTS then I will change it. There will be a penalty of $10 deducted from his build.
wljimbo
Give the poor guy a mulligan it’s his B-day!
bluefunelement
QUOTE (got2envy @ Oct 6 2009, 11:01 AM) *
Ok Menz! I know that there will be days when we have caca happen. I don't care if you post your FTS as early as Friday and state that it is the FTS for that Monday...I know some of these are at the work place and people go away on the weekend and so forth.

harthag12 is disqualified as per the rules. If you guys think he should stay since it is the first FTS then I will change it. There will be a penalty of $10 deducted from his build.


I vote lenancy for these early shots as it's meant to discourage cheating and his reason for not posting is extenuating circumstances, "life".

Let's keep the spirit of competition vs judging in the early phase...
-oh and Maria will slap.gif you owneddance.gif
bob21115
QUOTE (bluefunelement @ Oct 6 2009, 12:11 PM) *
I vote lenancy for these early shots as it's meant to discourage cheating and his reason for not posting is extenuating circumstances, "life".

Let's keep the spirit of competition vs judging in the early phase...
-oh and Maria will slap.gif you owneddance.gif


let him stay.
bob21115
QUOTE (got2envy @ Oct 6 2009, 12:01 PM) *
Ok Menz! I know that there will be days when we have caca happen. I don't care if you post your FTS as early as Friday and state that it is the FTS for that Monday...I know some of these are at the work place and people go away on the weekend and so forth.

harthag12 is disqualified as per the rules. If you guys think he should stay since it is the first FTS then I will change it. There will be a penalty of $10 deducted from his build.



Simple tried to post 2 pictures. His links didn't work. Sould he be disqualified for that? Unless he dosn't care...
hayseed777
QUOTE (got2envy @ Oct 6 2009, 12:01 PM) *
Ok Menz! I know that there will be days when we have caca happen. I don't care if you post your FTS as early as Friday and state that it is the FTS for that Monday...I know some of these are at the work place and people go away on the weekend and so forth.

harthag12 is disqualified as per the rules. If you guys think he should stay since it is the first FTS then I will change it. There will be a penalty of $10 deducted from his build.



Let him stay! If there is nothing in the tank (besides aiptasia apparently) what does it matter?
got2envy
I did not know that about Simple unsure.gif if it's a technical problem then def he can stay.
ok harthag12 is still in with a $10 penalty fee
scooternerd
Yay. 4 harthawg . I think a penalty for rule breaking is way better then banishment!


QUOTE (bob21115 @ Oct 6 2009, 11:23 AM) *
Simple tried to post 2 pictures. His links didn't work. Sould he be disqualified for that? Unless he dosn't care...


i am starting to believe that simple and erick had some sort of pre arangment sleep.gif or maybe one in the same person wink.gif . werent you keeping up with the tracking info bob? was one going to miami?
bob21115
QUOTE (scooternerd @ Oct 6 2009, 11:55 AM) *
Yay. 4 harthawg . I think a penalty for rule breaking is way better then banishment!




i am starting to believe that simple and erick had some sort of pre arangment sleep.gif or maybe one in the same person wink.gif . werent you keeping up with the tracking info bob? was one going to miami?



I was but didn't keep it. I searched the old thread but it looks like its been removed.

I have a few question for everyone.

1. How many people have fish in their tanks?
2. If you have fish in the tank do you feel it took a bite out of your coral budget?
3. If you decided not to put fish in the tank was it because you didn’t want to affect your coral budget?
4. Who has figured out where I’m going with this.

I was just looking at my tank and thinking I love the way it looks, but it’s missing something.


FISH
bluefunelement
1. How many people have fish in their tanks?
-Green Clown Goby, "Fred"

2. If you have fish in the tank do you feel it took a bite out of your coral budget?
- na less then $20 - sexy shrimp add up quickly though

3. If you decided not to put fish in the tank was it because you didn’t want to affect your coral budget?
- never seen a reef without fish and inverts; would look like a desert

4. Who has figured out where I’m going with this.
- you hate fish?


scooternerd
QUOTE (bob21115 @ Oct 6 2009, 03:23 PM) *
I was but didn't keep it. I searched the old thread but it looks like its been removed.

I have a few question for everyone.

1. How many people have fish in their tanks?
2. If you have fish in the tank do you feel it took a bite out of your coral budget?
3. If you decided not to put fish in the tank was it because you didn’t want to affect your coral budget?
4. Who has figured out where I’m going with this.

I was just looking at my tank and thinking I love the way it looks, but it’s missing something.


FISH


i wanted to get a small fish but don't want my shrimp eating it!
harthag12
ok cool, my tank is now running. Watching biggest loser than will work on pictures. broke down my tank, put rock in this new one, put some corals in, clean up crew is way to huge but didn't want the poor guys to die from me emptying the other tank. my thermometer won't read above 71 so threw a 3rd heater in ... put a glass thermometer in and it shot upto 80+ on it, not sure which is accurate but the water felt pretty warm so unhooked 2 heaters, trusting in the glass one.

Didn't really mean to ##### in earlier post I'm just incredibly lazy and pictures seem like work (yeah bad excuse I know) and than the whole flooding basement didn't help. Does that count as repenting.
harthag12
Heh, biggest loser is my wifes and I big date night each week smile.gif Picts going up now though smile.gif
bob21115
QUOTE (bluefunelement @ Oct 6 2009, 04:11 PM) *
1. How many people have fish in their tanks?
-Green Clown Goby, "Fred"

2. If you have fish in the tank do you feel it took a bite out of your coral budget?
- na less then $20 - sexy shrimp add up quickly though

3. If you decided not to put fish in the tank was it because you didn’t want to affect your coral budget?
- never seen a reef without fish and inverts; would look like a desert

4. Who has figured out where I’m going with this.
- you hate fish?


I need fish in my tank.

I wonder is Simple pulled the $250 limit out of the air.

I think we should have set another limit on fish and shrimp.
Doc Frye
I love you, Bob!

According to "the rulezzz" I have $120 in shrimp right now.

and harthag12, go ahead and make your wife happy. See were that gets you.
scooternerd
holy hell doc dem shimpeses gold plated? hahahhaha j/k harthag must be a newlywed "makin the wife happy"
dancingnaughty.gif dancingnaughty.gif dancingnaughty.gif


bob, as much as a few of us (myself included) would love to lift the limit. i can see other participants point. some ppl just don't have the scratch to keep up with others. and i dont see the mod or majority voting to lift it any time soon smile.gif

maybe after this contest we should start a 5.5 gallon glass reef unlimited budget?
simplenough
can i e-mail anyone my pics? i cant seem to upload them for some reason =/
scooternerd
QUOTE (simplenough @ Oct 6 2009, 09:18 PM) *
can i e-mail anyone my pics? i cant seem to upload them for some reason =/



yup shoot me a PM
scooternerd
QUOTE (Doc Frye @ Oct 6 2009, 09:26 PM) *
email them to me at (edit - send me a PM) I will post for you.



writing down email address to send spam tongue.gif
Lawnman
QUOTE (scooternerd @ Oct 6 2009, 10:15 PM) *
holy hell doc dem shimpeses gold plated? hahahhaha j/k harthag must be a newlywed "makin the wife happy"
dancingnaughty.gif dancingnaughty.gif dancingnaughty.gif


bob, as much as a few of us (myself included) would love to lift the limit. i can see other participants point. some ppl just don't have the scratch to keep up with others. and i dont see the mod or majority voting to lift it any time soon smile.gif

maybe after this contest we should start a 5.5 gallon glass reef unlimited budget?


No budget a glass pico I am in.
jokercykoe
I can do it to if you want.
simplenough
ok i sent the pic to scooternerd. And its ridiculous that you guys think erick and i have an arrangement. Ive posted pics before just not with a t shirt in it. I'm a 17 year old kid in highschool in miami, fl. Erick doesnt even live near me.
Lawnman
[quote name='Doc Frye' date='Oct 6 2009, 09:37 PM' post='2465549']
speak of the devil.....


I repented and gave you a apology. Can't we be best buds now? Your tank looks amazing btw. wink.gif


Ow Dr. Piper and Dr. Swengel said to tell you hello.
Doc Frye
hmmmmmmm.... don't get it.

Thanks. I am fond of the tank.
Lawnman
I was at the vet today and asked the doc if he ever heard of you. I told him your name and where you were from. He said ow yes tell him me and dr. piper said hello. I thought he was full of BS so that is why I said that.
nosser
QUOTE (bob21115 @ Oct 6 2009, 12:23 PM) *
I was but didn't keep it. I searched the old thread but it looks like its been removed.

I have a few question for everyone.

1. How many people have fish in their tanks?
2. If you have fish in the tank do you feel it took a bite out of your coral budget?
3. If you decided not to put fish in the tank was it because you didn’t want to affect your coral budget?
4. Who has figured out where I’m going with this.

I was just looking at my tank and thinking I love the way it looks, but it’s missing something.
FISH

I don't have any fish and yes it's because of the coral budget. My wife really wants me to put a fish in there and I would like to but "we gotta watch our budget". I told her Reef-a-Palooza is coming up this month and if I can hold out I may be able to score some good stuff so the fish has to wait.

Can we vote on a $20 under freebee fish? So it doesn't affect our $250 limit and when people see the tank it has signs of life in there?
JoeD
QUOTE (nosser @ Oct 6 2009, 11:39 PM) *
I don't have any fish and yes it's because of the coral budget. My wife really wants me to put a fish in there and I would like to but "we gotta watch our budget". I told her Reef-a-Palooza is coming up this month and if I can hold out I may be able to score some good stuff so the fish has to wait.

Can we vote on a $20 under freebee fish? So it doesn't affect our $250 limit and when people see the tank it has signs of life in there?

Hmmm... got a pod farm, so guess I need a fish... I can grudgingly take it out of my coral budget, or.....
a reef needs fish
harthag12
QUOTE (scooternerd @ Oct 6 2009, 10:15 PM) *
holy hell doc dem shimpeses gold plated? hahahhaha j/k harthag must be a newlywed "makin the wife happy"
dancingnaughty.gif dancingnaughty.gif dancingnaughty.gif


bob, as much as a few of us (myself included) would love to lift the limit. i can see other participants point. some ppl just don't have the scratch to keep up with others. and i dont see the mod or majority voting to lift it any time soon smile.gif

maybe after this contest we should start a 5.5 gallon glass reef unlimited budget?


Nah, married 4.5 years but if the wifey ain't happy ain't no one happy. Also she pays all the bills and lets me use my money for my stupid hobbies. I just pay for when we eat out, it's a good arrangement.
lajz9
I have no problem with seeing the limit removed for FISH since it's what's preventing me from adding anything...
bob21115
QUOTE (lajz9 @ Oct 7 2009, 09:46 AM) *
I have no problem with seeing the limit removed for FISH since it's what's preventing me from adding anything...


I thought you were on a 7 day vacation?
lajz9
QUOTE (bob21115 @ Oct 7 2009, 07:47 AM) *
I thought you were on a 7 day vacation?

I made nice and was forgiven by the powers that be.
bob21115
QUOTE (lajz9 @ Oct 7 2009, 09:50 AM) *
I made nice and was forgiven by the powers that be.



Very cool
scooternerd
QUOTE (lajz9 @ Oct 7 2009, 09:50 AM) *
I made nice and was forgiven by the powers that be.



hahahahahaha WB



QUOTE (harthag12 @ Oct 7 2009, 09:11 AM) *
Nah, married 4.5 years but if the wifey ain't happy ain't no one happy. Also she pays all the bills and lets me use my money for my stupid hobbies. I just pay for when we eat out, it's a good arrangement.




4.5 years is nothing! wait until u hit 20 years married! then u will see about makin the wife happy lmao
Doc Frye
There has been a lot of chatter about a separate fish budget. Anything coming together on this? General feeling?
jaygalindo
not interested, rules have been changed enough. If we lift this limit, next month we will talk about lifting coral limit.
isakshu
Agreed - $250 is still a decent budget, even moreso when you consider the fact we have six months to grow out whatever frags we put in the tank. I don't think anyone needs to put Helfrich's in these tanks, so the cost of a tiny goby or two shouldn't be that overwhelming. I will be spending at least $50 on my fish, limiting my coral budget to $200 (still pretty decent considering the pricing structure).



QUOTE (jaygalindo @ Oct 7 2009, 10:57 AM) *
not interested, rules have been changed enough. If we lift this limit, next month we will talk about lifting coral limit.

1337TANKHAX
QUOTE (jaygalindo @ Oct 7 2009, 07:57 AM) *
not interested, rules have been changed enough. If we lift this limit, next month we will talk about lifting coral limit.



+1
simplenough
no changes to budget.
lajz9
QUOTE (simplenough @ Oct 7 2009, 04:36 PM) *
no changes to budget.

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