QUOTE (thecowkid @ Oct 29 2009, 09:46 PM)

Hey MJ your talking my stuff now. Can we PLEASE toss in the hard sciences into the mix? Huh,, Huh,... Can we,...Can we PLEASE.....??? I mean do you wana start with the tree falling in an unmanned forest, the butterflys wings flapping,... or ants marching in step....
Or
Is time really relative,.. Or is it that only the space around objects suspended in time can be altered. Kinda like asking are we in a vacume or pressurized system.
GOT AN ANSWER YET CADET?
BOTH. But whats first?
Ok, let's take them in turn.
The answer to the trees question is yes. If sound is defined as an oscillating wave transmitted through a medium, then yes, there is a sound. Even if sound is defined as the above and an added requirement that the oscillating wave is within the range that can be heard, the fact that an observer is not present does not mean that the sound could not be heard. I love it when legalism meets science.

The butterfly wings question... well, I think that it's sheer coincidence, unless you are referring to something other than what I'm thinking.
Ants marching in step is simply a learned behavior, must like a soldier marching in step.
Time: Time is a constant, but it is related to a unit of space. Therefore, they are one and the same. So, when you warp space by the presence of a heavy mass, time continues to follow along the same lines of space that it had, but now it takes longer to get from point A to point B along a single plane.
Let's see if I can work up an example. There is a distance of 5 units
d between point A and point B with no large mass placed in between. Time progresses at a rate of 1 unit
t per unit distance. Now, insert a large mass between points A and B. Because of the warping of space, the distance between A and B is still 5 units, but to an observe above the plane, it appears that A to B is only 2 units
d (assuming the mass is large enough to warp 3 units). However, an object traveling from A to B will still travel the 5 units
dand do so in a total time of 5 units
t. Time will pass normally for the traveler, but to the outside observer, only 2 units
t will have gone by.
This phenomena has been observed in sensitive satellites in earth orbit.
Oh how I enjoy the sciences!
QUOTE (ap123 @ Oct 29 2009, 09:59 PM)

It's bedtime, yanno.
As you wish! I think that's enough hard thinking for one day anyways.
It's now Sammy time!