QUOTE (scubasteve2580 @ Sep 5 2009, 05:44 PM)

i dotn want to get one if its not going to live. not into killing livestock for a test
The lower light species are Derasa and Squamosa. Either of those would do fine under 4xHOT5. The real question is how quickly will they outgrow your setup. I personally had a 20g that could only hold them for about 6 months before they outgrew the tank. They certainly do grow fast given the right conditions.
You could also try Hippopus. They tend to grow slower, requires much less light than the other species. Trick is getting your hands on one... They are harder to come across these days.
I would reserve the Maximas and Croceas for 6xHOT5 if you really want them to thrive and keep their color full pop.