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evilc66
Ooh err missus indeed. I'm surprised that those power supplies need fans to keep cool even at that low of an amperage. Sounds like a poor design to me. While it may cost a little more, see about stepping up to a better power supply.
Dave_uk
QUOTE (evilc66 @ Jan 14 2010, 02:22 PM) *
Ooh err missus indeed. I'm surprised that those power supplies need fans to keep cool even at that low of an amperage. Sounds like a poor design to me. While it may cost a little more, see about stepping up to a better power supply.


Hi mate :-D

They arent cheap power supples. They sell for £55 each and are rated up to 6A@24V so should do the job nicely if theyre not just crap.

Do you think its likely that its a short or something in my array thats causing is to draw too much current?

If its probably just down to crap quality power supplies I will try to exchange them for a different model. these are the current ones and im thinking these may be better. They are alittle cheaper but are rated just as high and dont need a fan to keep cool.
gdayskippy
QUOTE (Dave_uk @ Oct 29 2009, 10:25 AM) *


What kind of tank is that ? Looks amazing.
Dave_uk
QUOTE (gdayskippy @ Jan 14 2010, 02:44 PM) *
What kind of tank is that ? Looks amazing.


Its a Fluval Osaka 320
evilc66
QUOTE (Dave_uk @ Jan 14 2010, 09:41 AM) *
Hi mate :-D

They arent cheap power supples. They sell for £55 each and are rated up to 6A@24V so should do the job nicely if theyre not just crap.

Do you think its likely that its a short or something in my array thats causing is to draw too much current?

If its probably just down to crap quality power supplies I will try to exchange them for a different model. these are the current ones and im thinking these may be better. They are alittle cheaper but are rated just as high and dont need a fan to keep cool.


It's possible that a short would cause a problem, but I think you would be seeing a multitude of issues elsewhere also.

Get this power supply if you are looking for the same capacity

http://www.simplypowersupplies.com/Merchan...egory_Code=01C7

I will guarantee that it will be higher quality than the unit from Maplin. Only 2 pounds more. They have smaller, cheaper units there too.

24v 3.2A chassis mount £42.00

24v 5A laptop sytle £54

24v 3.33A laptop style £50
johnamon
I think the fact that my psu isnae happy should suggest that you probably don't have a short.

The only issue with evil's suggestion is that I power the arduino off the USB port on the psu; if i went with a different style of psu then I'd need a 5v regulator :-( :-(
Dave_uk
QUOTE (evilc66 @ Jan 14 2010, 03:36 PM) *
It's possible that a short would cause a problem, but I think you would be seeing a multitude of issues elsewhere also.

Get this power supply if you are looking for the same capacity

http://www.simplypowersupplies.com/Merchan...egory_Code=01C7

I will guarantee that it will be higher quality than the unit from Maplin. Only 2 pounds more. They have smaller, cheaper units there too.

24v 3.2A chassis mount £42.00

24v 5A laptop sytle £54

24v 3.33A laptop style £50


Bugger.. to late. before reading this I just went to maplin and bought that other model of 150w supply. It does look much better quality though although i suppose thats just cosmetics. I also noticed that the new one has a proper multi-speed fan instead of the mechanically-slowed one in the first model. I'm going to try this one for a while and If I have any issues I will return it and get the one you suggested. Im also going to split the pwer supplies so there is 1 in each cupboard instead of both together to help them stay cooler.

The bloke in maplin did suggest that it might be my fault for buying a power supply thats meant for laptops.. cheecky git. tongue.gif
evilc66
Meanwell makes some dual voltage power supplies in a 24v:5v setup, but they aren't cheap. A simple TO-220 5v regulator will cost very little. With a little hunting, you may even be able to find one that could directly replace the regulator on the Arduino board. This one will fit and will take up to 30v

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/STMicr...JcGtMnQnSZII%3d
Dave_uk
I just used a cheap 9v power supply I had lying around for the arduino. Makes things nice and simple.
redguppy
Wow this is impressive makes me waht to push something like this in the future (on an upgraded tank cool.gif ) ... someone was saying about the LED being so cheap but a ipod touch LCD costs like £8 there surprisingly cheap to make these days :-)
Dave_uk
Spent this evening knocking together a spare LED controller. It took about 3 hours and I was amazed when it worked first time. I followed the schematic in the documentation to the letter and it worked perfectly which is great news for anyone that wants to build a controller as Im a electronics novice, so if I can do it anyone can.
chuckstyl5
did you happen to find a reliable power supply yet?? I read that you had some problems with the original ones you tried
sammy113
QUOTE (Dave_uk @ Jan 27 2010, 08:13 PM) *
Spent this evening knocking together a spare LED controller. It took about 3 hours and I was amazed when it worked first time. I followed the schematic in the documentation to the letter and it worked perfectly which is great news for anyone that wants to build a controller as Im a electronics novice, so if I can do it anyone can.

Wait, what was that? huh.gif DIY controller? I need one! i'm afraid to mess everything as I know chit about programing and little knowledge on electronics.

where can I get an instructional manual? laugh.gif
Dave_uk
QUOTE (sammy113 @ Jan 28 2010, 05:49 AM) *
Wait, what was that? huh.gif DIY controller? I need one! i'm afraid to mess everything as I know chit about programing and little knowledge on electronics.

where can I get an instructional manual? laugh.gif


Have a look at post #130

Its got a link to the manual with a full parts list, schematic, code and photos etc. Theres a new, more comprehensive manual on the way but the first edition is enough to get one built pretty easily. Someone else built the first controller for me as Im an electronice newb but Ive just built a spare controller follwing these instructions and it was very easy. All the parts, including the arduino and screen only cost around £50 and it will run a pretty large array without any extra parts.



QUOTE (chuckstyl5 @ Jan 28 2010, 02:22 AM) *
did you happen to find a reliable power supply yet?? I read that you had some problems with the original ones you tried


So far the new ones have been ok and are running much cooler.. touch wood.
evilc66
You got Hackaday'ed

http://hackaday.com/2010/01/29/salty-leds/
Dave_uk
QUOTE (evilc66 @ Feb 1 2010, 01:50 PM) *


Lol. I hadnt heard of that site until 5 mins ago. I dont know why they chose my build thread.. surely there are loads of better examples.

I cant believe how many people have commented who have obviously no knowledge on the subject although there appear to be a couple of reefers that have set the record straight.
evilc66
I tried happy.gif

I read that site every day, so I was pleased to see your tank.
Dave_uk
QUOTE (evilc66 @ Feb 1 2010, 07:14 PM) *
I tried happy.gif

I read that site every day, so I was pleased to see your tank.


Cheers. I thought it was someone that knew their stuff.

It must be a popular site as it made my copy of this thread on the UK forum get about 15000 more hits in just a few days.

I still cant understand why they chose my thread though.



EDIT: Just noticed your name by the comment too. Dead give away...lol Maybe the LEDs made me blind as well as the fish tongue.gif
flygremlin
Man, just finished going through this whole thread. Phew. Awesome!! My only problem is loading the program into my arduino. I get tons of error messages when I verify/compile the sketch. I think my problem is the zip file locations. ha ha actually figured it out while I was writing this. Working fine now. This thread is stellar thank you!!!
Dave_uk
QUOTE (flygremlin @ Feb 6 2010, 02:53 AM) *
Man, just finished going through this whole thread. Phew. Awesome!! My only problem is loading the program into my arduino. I get tons of error messages when I verify/compile the sketch. I think my problem is the zip file locations. ha ha actually figured it out while I was writing this. Working fine now. This thread is stellar thank you!!!


Glad you like the thread

Have you built the full controller with proto-shield etc?

BTW. if you havent noticed, release 12 of the code is now available and works much better than R10
flygremlin
QUOTE (Dave_uk @ Feb 6 2010, 07:31 AM) *
Have you built the full controller with proto-shield etc?


Not yet, I'm still waiting for parts. LED's, meanwell drivers & LCD are on their way. I already have the arduino and protoshield. I'm going try the meanwell drivers just to see if they'll work, if they dont I'll go with the buckpucks. Just looking for a way to try somthing different to add to the thread. cool.gif

Do you know of any sites that sell the chips I need for the in the US? Cant find any. Thanks again for an awesome thread!!
Dave_uk
QUOTE (flygremlin @ Feb 6 2010, 01:12 PM) *
Not yet, I'm still waiting for parts. LED's, meanwell drivers & LCD are on their way. I already have the arduino and protoshield. I'm going try the meanwell drivers just to see if they'll work, if they dont I'll go with the buckpucks. Just looking for a way to try somthing different to add to the thread. cool.gif

Do you know of any sites that sell the chips I need for the in the US? Cant find any. Thanks again for an awesome thread!!


It will be really good to know if the controller works well with meanwell drivers. Hugh (designed the controller) said that it should work with the addition of a pull up resistor but it hasnt been tested. If you dont mind, please can you let me know once you have it put together.

I think Farnell are in the US as well as the UK so should be able to get the chips as they are pretty standard. The only difficult part may be the LCD shield as I havent seen them anywhere apart from nuelectronics.
chuckstyl5
any updates on the tank and everything in it? corals? fish? etc ... color? growth? Thanks Dave!

Charlie
Dave_uk
QUOTE (chuckstyl5 @ Feb 10 2010, 02:56 PM) *
any updates on the tank and everything in it? corals? fish? etc ... color? growth? Thanks Dave!

Charlie


Everything is going well so far. Ive had really good coral growth especially from my LPS with the exception of 1 candycane thats refusing to grow. My Frogspawn has at least doubled in size and the SPS frags I added just after the LED upgrade have grown well too. My sofies are also growing really well, especially my zoas. The colours also seem better although that could just be down to the amazing flourscence you get with blue LEDs rather than and actuall change on the corals.

The fish seem much happier and my clowfish have started spawning which I think is at least partly because of the proper sunrise-sunset cycle.

All in all Im extremely happy with the upgrade and would not go back to T5s.
chuckstyl5
you would or wouldnt go back to T5s???
Dave_uk
QUOTE (chuckstyl5 @ Feb 10 2010, 09:33 PM) *
you would or wouldnt go back to T5s???


Sorry.. typo blush.gif

I would not go back to T5s
chuckstyl5
ok good to know!!! i guess since i am a "noob" i wanna go the best route the first time especially when stuff inst cheap

so you did add a little more confidence for LEDs lol
chuckstyl5
any new pictures you could post????
Dave_uk
I'll get an updated FTS asap
flygremlin
Ok, update. Meanwell drivers are not plug and play as suspected. They actually do have a few minor dimming capabilities but as a working system it will not work plug and play as expected. For those of you who don't know the Arduino puts out a 5V pwm signal to the meanwell driver. The meanwell driver needs a 10V pwm signal to operate properly. So, my guess is your going to need to wire in a mosfet chip to up the 5V pwm to a 10V pwm. I'll let you know when I get the parts. wink.gif
chuckstyl5
any new pics of the tank??
Dave_uk
Heres a quick FTS update. Since switching to LEDs, most of the LPS have grown at least 50% and the frogspawn has at least doubled in size. The Organ Pipe coral (back left) has grown like a weed and my zoas are growing really well too. The few small SPS frags I have are all growing well too.

Sorry about the crap photo but Im no good with a camera.





Sahin
Looking really good there.
adinsxq
QUOTE (Sahin @ Feb 27 2010, 01:08 AM) *
Looking really good there.


omg. you're alive.
Sahin
QUOTE (adinsxq @ Feb 27 2010, 09:17 AM) *
omg. you're alive.


biggrin.gif Have you just realised that I'm still around. Been here since 2002! Who are you by the way cos I dont recall you...did you change your username?
adinsxq
i didn't post much back in the early days... just sat back and did my best to learn from you and the rest of the old crew.
sammy113
Looking good. Glad LEDs are working nicely for you. I'm in love with mine biggrin.gif


QUOTE (adinsxq @ Feb 27 2010, 06:54 AM) *
i didn't post much back in the early days... just sat back and did my best to learn from you and the rest of the old crew.

This is the longest post I've seen from you. Can't believe it
micos_1972
Hello I saw you put the R13 in the assembly but is
changed anything?
To use the Meanwell what you need to set?
GreyFox
QUOTE (flygremlin @ Feb 26 2010, 08:07 AM) *
Ok, update. Meanwell drivers are not plug and play as suspected. They actually do have a few minor dimming capabilities but as a working system it will not work plug and play as expected. For those of you who don't know the Arduino puts out a 5V pwm signal to the meanwell driver. The meanwell driver needs a 10V pwm signal to operate properly. So, my guess is your going to need to wire in a mosfet chip to up the 5V pwm to a 10V pwm. I'll let you know when I get the parts. wink.gif


im gonna follow you on this one as im wanting to use the controller with ELN-60-48. I have no knowledge of electronics so a little help in this area would be awesome:P. I want some awesome sun rise sun set for my diy aquarium!
Dave_uk
QUOTE (micos_1972 @ Mar 8 2010, 11:16 AM) *
Hello I saw you put the R13 in the assembly but is
changed anything?
To use the Meanwell what you need to set?


There is now a variable in the code which allows the value used for PWM to be inverted for use with meanwells etc.
pazhope
Hi Dave, I have the exact same tank and lamps smile.gif and I am looking into upgrading to leds before I need to replace my bulbs.

I like your controller, so I want to replicate it, can you please post the PDF document again? The link you post before its not longer working (at least not now)

thanks..

Never mind, is working smile.gif
thewire
Dave

Hi mate, nice tank!
Lexoid
Hi Dave,

What a great build thread.

I ordered an Arduino starter kit to muck around with based on this thread. While I haven't built a light controller unit (yet), my 7yo son has taken a shine to the technology and we've built a robot with all kinds of sensors, he is hooked. I've all the components to copy your build ordered, so hopefully the skills and blisters we've acquired in the meantime will pay some dividends.

When the bits arrive we'll have a go at a (your) controller unit for some LEDs. My wife is totally chuffed with the father-son projects, I'm happy that she's happy, and me and the boy are stoked that we have the go ahead for a reef aquarium. Win win.

Thanks mate smile.gif

btw: Can you believe that postage to Australia only costs 3 quid?! That is less than internal Aus postage. God save the Queen.

Edit: the Queen comment is in reference to the Royal Mail. Australia post are a bunch of grasping bastards who charge ridiculous prices.
Netfreak
Hi All,

My first post, & it begins with a couple of appologies...

Firstly, I'm not a Salty Aquarium type, Tropical Planted is my thing. wink.gif

Secondly, this seems a way strange place to be asking the question, but as this thread put me onto the track of LED lighting & the Arduino, it's kinda appropriate. cool.gif

OK, I'm building a setup for my 4' loosely based on the great build & advice here. I am going to use the Arduino & Krusdino code, just maybe tweak a few bits to suit. I've got the Arduino & all the parts listed in the pdf.

Here's the problem, I have the Arduino connected to my PC, I can load the test program, Blink. But, when I try to load the Krusdino program I get nothing but compile errors, sample below.. There is more before & after this sample.

QUOTE
C:\Users\Dad\Documents\Arduino\libraries\String\WString.cpp:144: error: prototype for 'const String& String::operator+=(int)' does not match any in class 'String'
C:\Program Files (x86)\arduino-0019\hardware\arduino\cores\arduino/WString.h:44: error: candidate is: const String& String::operator+=(const String&)
C:\Users\Dad\Documents\Arduino\libraries\String\WString.cpp:158: error: prototype for 'const String& String::operator+=(long int)' does not match any in class 'String'
C:\Program Files (x86)\arduino-0019\hardware\arduino\cores\arduino/WString.h:44: error: candidate is: const String& String::operator+=(const String&)
C:\Users\Dad\Documents\Arduino\libraries\String\WString.cpp: In member function 'const String& String::operator+=(const String&)':
C:\Users\Dad\Documents\Arduino\libraries\String\WString.cpp:175: error: '_array' was not declared in this scope
C:\Users\Dad\Documents\Arduino\libraries\String\WString.cpp:178: error: 'setArray' was not declared in this scope
C:\Users\Dad\Documents\Arduino\libraries\String\WString.cpp:182: error: '_array' was not declared in this scope
C:\Users\Dad\Documents\Arduino\libraries\String\WString.cpp:182: error: 'const class String' has no member named '_array'
C:\Users\Dad\Documents\Arduino\libraries\String\WString.cpp: At global scope:
C:\Users\Dad\Documents\Arduino\libraries\String\WString.cpp:190: error: no 'const String& String::append(char)' member function declared in class 'String'
C:\Users\Dad\Documents\Arduino\libraries\String\WString.cpp:195: error: no 'const String& String::append(char*)' member function declared in class 'String'
C:\Users\Dad\Documents\Arduino\libraries\String\WString.cpp:200: error: no 'const String& String::append(const String&)' member function declared in class 'String'
C:\Users\Dad\Documents\Arduino\libraries\String\WString.cpp:205: error: no 'const String& String::append(int, int)' member function declared in class 'String'
C:\Users\Dad\Documents\Arduino\libraries\String\WString.cpp:216: error: no 'const String& String::append(long int, int)' member function declared in class 'String'
C:\Users\Dad\Documents\Arduino\libraries\String\WString.cpp:225: error: no 'const String& String::append(int)' member function declared in class 'String'
C:\Users\Dad\Documents\Arduino\libraries\String\WString.cpp:233: error: no 'const String& String::append(long int)' member function declared in class 'String'
C:\Users\Dad\Documents\Arduino\libraries\String\WString.cpp:320: error: prototype for 'char String::charAt(int)' does not match any in class 'String'
C:\Program Files (x86)\arduino-0019\hardware\arduino\cores\arduino/WString.h:57: error: candidate is: char String::charAt(unsigned int) const
C:\Users\Dad\Documents\Arduino\libraries\String\WString.cpp:336: error: prototype for 'void String::setCharAt(int, char)' does not match any in class 'String'
C:\Program Files (x86)\arduino-0019\hardware\arduino\cores\arduino/WString.h:71: error: candidate is: void String::setCharAt(unsigned int, char)
C:\Users\Dad\Documents\Arduino\libraries\String\WString.cpp:352: error: prototype for 'boolean String::equals(char*)' does not match any in class 'String'
C:\Program Files (x86)\arduino-0019\hardware\arduino\cores\arduino/WString.h:60: error: candidate is: unsigned char String::equals(const String&) const
C:\Users\Dad\Documents\Arduino\libraries\String\WString.cpp:363: error: prototype for 'boolean String::equals(const String&)' does not match any in class 'String'
C:\Program Files (x86)\arduino-0019\hardware\arduino\cores\arduino/WString.h:60: error: candidate is: unsigned char String::equals(const String&) const
C:\Users\Dad\Documents\Arduino\libraries\String\WString.cpp:369: error: no 'boolean String::contains(char*)' member function declared in class 'String'
C:\Users\Dad\Documents\Arduino\libraries\String\WString.cpp:377: error: prototype for 'byte* String::getBytes()' does not match any in class 'String'
C:\Program Files (x86)\arduino-0019\hardware\arduino\cores\arduino/WString.h:79: error: candidate is: void String::getBytes(unsigned char*, unsigned int)
C:\Users\Dad\Documents\Arduino\libraries\String\WString.cpp:383: error: no 'void String::setArray(const char*)' member function declared in class 'String'
C:\Users\Dad\Documents\Arduino\libraries\String\WString.cpp:390: error: prototype for 'int String::indexOf(int)' does not match any in class 'String'
C:\Program Files (x86)\arduino-0019\hardware\arduino\cores\arduino/WString.h:65: error: candidates are: int String::indexOf(const String&, unsigned int) const
C:\Program Files (x86)\arduino-0019\hardware\arduino\cores\arduino/WString.h:64: error: int String::indexOf(const String&) const
C:\Program Files (x86)\arduino-0019\hardware\arduino\cores\arduino/WString.h:63: error: int String::indexOf(char, unsigned int) const
C:\Program Files (x86)\arduino-0019\hardware\arduino\cores\arduino/WString.h:62: error: int String::indexOf(char) const
C:\Users\Dad\Documents\Arduino\libraries\String\WString.cpp:396: error: prototype for 'int String::indexOf(const String&)' does not match any in class 'String'
C:\Program Files (x86)\arduino-0019\hardware\arduino\cores\arduino/WString.h:65: error: candidates are: int String::indexOf(const String&, unsigned int) const
C:\Program Files (x86)\arduino-0019\hardware\arduino\cores\arduino/WString.h:64: error: int String::indexOf(const String&) const
C:\Program Files (x86)\arduino-0019\hardware\arduino\cores\arduino/WString.h:63: error: int String::indexOf(char, unsigned int) const


I'm running Windows 7 64bit, Arduino software is installed at C:\Program Files (x86)\arduino-0019

The sketch directory is here with the libraries C:\Users\Dad\Documents\Arduino\libraries - this is the default location & correctly identified within the Arduino software environment preferances.

I've looked on the Arduino site, & to be honest, I may as well just throw the Arduino away. There's nothing in the pdf about loading the Krusdino onto the Arduino apart from where to put the libraries.

Can anyone offer any help, a thorough step by step loading guide?

TIA

Gary
Netfreak
QUOTE (Netfreak @ Sep 14 2010, 02:47 PM) *
Hi All,

My first post, & it begins with a couple of appologies...

Firstly, I'm not a Salty Aquarium type, Tropical Planted is my thing. wink.gif

Secondly, this seems a way strange place to be asking the question, but as this thread put me onto the track of LED lighting & the Arduino, it's kinda appropriate. cool.gif

OK, I'm building a setup for my 4' loosely based on the great build & advice here. I am going to use the Arduino & Krusdino code, just maybe tweak a few bits to suit. I've got the Arduino & all the parts listed in the pdf.

Here's the problem, I have the Arduino connected to my PC, I can load the test program, Blink. But, when I try to load the Krusdino program I get nothing but compile errors, sample below.. There is more before & after this sample.



I'm running Windows 7 64bit, Arduino software is installed at C:\Program Files (x86)\arduino-0019

The sketch directory is here with the libraries C:\Users\Dad\Documents\Arduino\libraries - this is the default location & correctly identified within the Arduino software environment preferances.

I've looked on the Arduino site, & to be honest, I may as well just throw the Arduino away. There's nothing in the pdf about loading the Krusdino onto the Arduino apart from where to put the libraries.

Can anyone offer any help, a thorough step by step loading guide?

TIA

Gary



Ok, sorted this out..

I was using the Arduino build 0019 - the latest build - & I couldn't get it to compile the Krusduino code. I looked at the change log & they've added a new "string function". As I was getting string related errors, I went back to build 0018. Krusduino compiled straight away, & loaded onto the Arduino biggrin.gif

That'll do me..

swjim
How is the tank doing, Dave? Can we see some current pics? Thanks.
GnobarEl
This project is amazing, I'm also making a similiar project to this one, but mine is for feeding the fish. I'm also using an arduino and a 3310 LCD.
Thanks for sharing your ideas and your code, i will study it and i might get some ideas to my project.

Using build 0018 I didn't have problems compiling the code.

Congratulations!
TankRazr
Would love to see an update, including a FTS.
Dave_uk
QUOTE (TankRazr @ Jan 2 2011, 05:40 PM) *
Would love to see an update, including a FTS.


The array is still running really well and coral growth has been good. The best results under the LEDs have been a hammer coral that has grown from a small 2 headed frag to a large coral with 15-20 heads and the Organ Pipe which is now about 12" accross even though I must have already taken 20 frags from it. I also had a small (2"ish) plating monti frag thats grown to about 8" accross.

Ive had an issue with the tank recently when the cross-brace came away from the front glass which required part-draining and re-siliconing and meant I had to remove the skimmer. As its been running skimmer-less for a while (going back on this weekend) the tank is not looking its best with some algae etc but I'll post an updated FTS as soon as the tank is back to normal.
Pyrocide
Hey dave,

I have a quick question.

First off, thanks for all the info regarding this controller.

Would a touchscreen, for instance on sparkfun there is the PSP screen with touchscreen, be able to work with this controller?

http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8335
http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8448

Second would a prebuild RTC module like this one work in place of building the RTC module?

http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10160

Also, since Flygremlin hasnt responded to this thread in over a year I figure i might ask.

How is the meanwell support for the R14 code? Is it now plug and play? or is there some code I have to manipulate to get it going?

Thanks
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