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poidog
Does anyone have some tips on how to cut the stems of the plastic ORA plugs? I want to cut them off so i can mount the disk to my rock.

NanoReefNovice
dremmel?
poidog
that would work great, but I don't have one.
I do have a home depot gift card.... how much does a cheap one cost?
plier? hacksaw?

mind you there is a frag on the other end.
NanoReefNovice
what is it a frag of, often i can pry a frag off a plug with a sharp flatblade screwdriver.
poidog
acros that are encrusted nicely over the top of the plug.
121a
maybe try wire clippers. i use that to break off the plug part on my frag plugs. but they are arganite (sp) ones. biggrin.gif
Kraylen
Your best bet is to drill a hole in a rock and set the plug in. They will encrust overtime but I've ####ed up more ORA frags by trying to mess with the plug than anyone. They are hard to cut, dremel or sand. Just submit to the ORA demons and drill a piece of rock.
poidog
can't take the rock out. those that I can are too thin to drill.

I'm thinking buying a dremel might be the best thing to try.

a pair of wire clippers work great on aragonite plugs, but won't work on these, unless you had bolt cutters.
basser1
I use channel locks and a good grip! If you use enough pressure, I've had the frag "pop" off. The other way I've used is a hacksaw. I put the frag in a vise grip and saw it.
Kraylen
Good luck man Ive tried dremeling them.


Your best bet is to take a plastic bag and poke a small hole through it. Put the plug out of the hole and cover the coral so no crap gets on it. Dremel, hacksaw whatever away with the best of luck.
m'akoyPINOY
i use dremmel and it's so easy a cavemen can do it. cool.gif
Kraylen
QUOTE (m'akoyPINOY @ Aug 7 2009, 11:42 PM) *
i use dremmel and it's so easy a cavemen can do it. cool.gif


What bit are you using with the dremel? I was lazy so I tried the diamond wheel but shot the plug out onto the floor of my garage.
NanoReefNovice
Why does ORA use retarted ass plastic plugs anyway??

Ive never dealt with them but i hear they are a pain. I would be very careful and slow with the dremmel b/c the plastic will heat up real quick. If not that a good large pair of wire cutters should do the trick.
poidog
ya, m'akoy what bit did you use?
m'akoyPINOY
QUOTE (Kraylen @ Aug 7 2009, 11:43 PM) *
What bit are you using with the dremel? I was lazy so I tried the diamond wheel but shot the plug out onto the floor of my garage.

diamond wheel.the trick is put the dremmel in full power and it cuts like a hot knife on a butter.
NanoReefNovice
QUOTE (m'akoyPINOY @ Aug 7 2009, 08:48 PM) *
diamond wheel.the trick is put the dremmel in full power and it cuts like a hot knife on a butter.


the hot part is what i would be concerned about.
poidog
that's what I would think. If the dremel is spinning too slow it may snag on the plastic and send it flying like kraylens.

The hot part is no where near the coral though. cut it where the head meets the stem.
Kraylen
I had it up to 35k RPMs, it melted the plastic then grabbed and vrooom it went.
m'akoyPINOY
and always wear a eye shield/protector.now got get urself a dremmel tomorrow and cut those damn ora stem plugs..
NanoReefNovice
QUOTE (m'akoyPINOY @ Aug 7 2009, 08:56 PM) *
and always wear a eye shield


^this ive had hot plastic i was grinding melt right in my eye, not fun.
poidog
haha. I wear glasses. biggrin.gif

where do I get the diamond wheel at? I couldn't find it on home depots site.
NanoReefNovice
diamond seems way overkill on plastic, i think any ceramic wheel will more then do the trick.
StevieT
Just cut the coral off the stupid plastic plug
poidog
the hot wire foam cutters looks scary

Steve, there is some good encrusting gong on there with new branches coming up. don't want to ruin those.
NanoReefNovice
QUOTE (poidog @ Aug 7 2009, 09:10 PM) *
the hot wire foam cutters looks scary


thier pretty cool, i know a guy that built one to cut high density foam airplanes. http://www.combatwings.com/catalog/product...0to%20Fly%20XE2
Sledgerton
the key is high amps if your cutting someting that is dense
steely185
+1 for the dremmel and diamond wheel. High speed cuts like a knife through butter like stated. Home depot sells the wheel. It's located with all the other dremmel stuff. Very worth the money for many a reefing project (go cordless if you can).
ajmckay
If you have one nearby Harbor Freight sells a rotary tool just like a dremel for $10
Harbor Freight

I wouldn't use pliers/cutters as you could tweak the plastic and crack the coral. Drilling a hole in the rock would be the safest/strongest way, but a rotary wheel with any cutting disk should cut the end off just fine. Use the plastic bag idea someone had and just apply light, even pressure (do NOT press hard or it will go flying) and just whittle down the plastic, stopping every few seconds to avoid heat buildup. FYI this also works well for ceramic plugs, but you'll want a more durable cutting wheel and a mask as the smell is horrible for some reason.
basser1
You guys are going to way too much trouble. I have popped off many ORA plugs with a pair of channel locks. It worked and even with the encrusting part. No need for dremmels or diamond wheels or whatever. Save your money for more corals! wink.gif
poidog
how would a channel lock work? it's just like a plier... huh.gif

something like this?


i have a pair of these in my tool box, but i cant imagine them making a clean cut on the plastic.
StevieT
QUOTE (poidog @ Aug 7 2009, 10:34 PM) *
how would a channel lock work? it's just like a plier... huh.gif

something like this?


i have a pair of these in my tool box, but i cant imagine them making a clean cut on the plastic.


zactly what I use

QUOTE (poidog @ Aug 7 2009, 10:10 PM) *
Steve, there is some good encrusting gong on there with new branches coming up. don't want to ruin those.


it will grow back
NanoReefNovice
QUOTE (poidog @ Aug 7 2009, 09:34 PM) *


^not channel locks,


^channel locks
Sledgerton
Both are Channel Locks. Thats a brand name not a type of tool. The ones poidog is refering to are called end cutters, the ones nanoreefnovice is refering to is tounge and grove pliers. But they are both made by the same company, being ChannelLock....you can tell by their signature blue handle. I would probably reccomend a small set of cable cutters. would easily cut plastic a little bigger than your thumb.
dpnano
QUOTE (poidog @ Aug 7 2009, 09:26 PM) *
that would work great, but I don't have one.
I do have a home depot gift card.... how much does a cheap one cost?
plier? hacksaw?

mind you there is a frag on the other end.



on the harbor freights add they had one for 6.99 with some add ons i think it was the drimmel and 30 peices which is a hella deall lol
Sledgerton
The 9 inch channellock brand cable cutters will cut 4 ought aluminum wire which is a little under half an inch in diameter.
NanoReefNovice
QUOTE (Sledgerton @ Aug 7 2009, 10:11 PM) *
Both are Channel Locks. Thats a brand name not a type of tool. The ones poidog is refering to are called end cutters, the ones nanoreefnovice is refering to is tounge and grove pliers. But they are both made by the same company, being ChannelLock....you can tell by their signature blue handle. I would probably reccomend a small set of cable cutters. would easily cut plastic a little bigger than your thumb.


when say channel locks i mean that type of adjustable pliers. kleenex makes tissues and toilet paper, but when i ask for a kleenex i want a snot tissue. Crescent makes a lot more then a crescent wrench but if im in a tight spot and i ask for a crescent wrench i would be pretty pissed if you gave me cressent brand end cutters just b/c i didnt ask for an adjustable wrench.


^channellocks are this smart ass, i dont give an eff if thier made by ChannelLock or not.
cptbjorn
I own both a real dremel and one of the harbor freight rotary tools mentioned above and trust me they are nothing alike. Either one should work for this purpose though except with the HF one you will have to go much slower as it has approximately 0 torque. If you are concerned about heat you can stop several times during the cut and dip the plug in water to cool it down but remember you are just cutting through plastic... Not sure why this thread makes it sound so complicated blink.gif
Sledgerton
You are correct, most tool types are refered to by the brand that either started making them or were most widly used, just wanted to clarify for everyone so somebody didnt go buy tounge and groove pliers when they wanted slip joint pliers, or end cutters or any other tool that channel lock makes.
poidog
QUOTE (Sledgerton @ Aug 8 2009, 12:29 AM) *
You are correct, most tool types are refered to by the brand that either started making them or were most widly used

like vise-grip.

But again how are you using regular adjustable wrench to cut the stem off.... I don't get it
huh.gif
NanoReefNovice
QUOTE (poidog @ Aug 7 2009, 09:57 PM) *
like vise-grip.

But again how are you using regular adjustable wrench to cut the stem off.... I don't get it
huh.gif


i think their talking about prying the plug from the frag. unsure.gif
poidog
QUOTE (NanoReefNovice @ Aug 8 2009, 01:06 AM) *
i think their talking about prying the plug from the frag. unsure.gif


ya, umm.... no
dpnano
oh the hf isn't good? idk i was gunna tell my dad to go pick it up lol guess i shouldn't, yeah i ment rotary tool its not really a dremal
Kraylen
Man almost everyone in this thread is an idiot.


DREMEL NOT DREMMEL
NanoReefNovice
QUOTE (Kraylen @ Aug 7 2009, 10:49 PM) *
Man almost everyone in this thread is an idiot.


DREMEL NOT DREMMEL


did i miss spell it??? Kinda need to move over to the drung thread now... wacko.gif

laugh.gif
Kraylen
It happens Carl dont be mad.
basser1
QUOTE (poidog @ Aug 7 2009, 10:19 PM) *
Does anyone have some tips on how to cut the stems of the plastic ORA plugs? I want to cut them off so i can mount the disk to my rock.




QUOTE (NanoReefNovice @ Aug 7 2009, 11:58 PM) *

^channel locks



^ This what I use. If you'll take the pliers and apply pressure aound the large round part of the ORA disk, the pic you provided. When enough pressure is applied, the whole frag will pop off, even the encrusting part. My tank is full of ORA corals and this is how I do it without any problems.
StevieT

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poidog
I'll try the plier thing on one of the plugs and see how it goes. Otherwise I got myself one of these

RagDoll
I'm so sick of those BigA FHI frag rocks, why don't they just jam the damn thing in a 5 lb live rock?
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