So we are in the final stages of preparing a refugium product. I want a cool name for it, but haven't been able to come up with any. Refugia is what we got so far, used to call it Chaeto Plus, (which was much more scaled down). Picked that name b/c it is suppesed to be a "natural filtration media", or at least I am throwing that in the short description. Anywho let me run the list by:

The product will be a 1 quart bag of:

Chaetomorpha crassa
Chaetomorpha linum
ulva - hopefully more than one species, but we don't want to be held to more than b/c I don't want to have to track them down on shipping day. shipping deadlines.....
enteromorpha flexuosa
brown and red gracilaria - a feature of it too
flame algae
euchema isoforme (regularly sold as a gracilaria species, actually probably sold as Red Gracilaria more than actual Gracilaria sp. - cool plant though, just thinks it needs it own credit is all.)
+ many other frags from our leftover from the penny frag tank

inverts -

copepods, amphipods, etc... I think I have like 6 different species altogether. 2 amphipods, (Gammarind and Caprellid), but the others come and go so I don't want to include them in the description. Probably do like "copepods and amphipods"
stomatellas - not much to start breeding with though, won't include them first round
dwarf ceriths - reproduce...
dwarf pheasant snails - reproducing algae eater, small like the related zigzag periwinkle, but better.
Mixed snails that we regularly carry
Empty shells... Great for growing amphipods and copepods. They love breeding in these.
some limpets - they breed too. i got some small limpets right now actually just taking hold on my 72
mini brittle stars - again limited though

Will separate critters that need more water to travel, other than that this will come as one large ball of mixed algae.




Should I include beneficial flatworms? I can get the clear ones I think, I know a spot that had them once. SO many little critters to id, I wish there was a better guide book on the subject. Chuck's addiciton has been a lifesaver for me.

On a down note for some of you...no bristles for me, I have what may be an irrational distaste for them, but I still don't like them. The good news, if you don't want bristle worms in your tank you are in luck! Neither do I!



nothing invasive, all easy to keep, 100% safe etc....


so...are we missing anything? Questions on why the diversity of macros? Alleopathy concerns?

Has allelopathy deep conclusively found in some macroalages? They grow so darn fast it seems that they would have little use for such a mechanism and wouldn't have the resources to divert to it.

Also, will the limpets explode and take over? I saw a thread on here recently where someone made such an accusation.

Beyond that, I looks really nice.

How about: The Algae Stack Pack or the Refugi-YUM Combo?

like both those names better than what i got. Refugi-Yum sounds good, going to do a Tang friendly pack, I wanted to call it something like Happy Tang, or Fat Tang, etc...

Glad you asked about alleopathy Fosi. Apparently the scientific community thinks it exists, and has aan impact etc... I keep all these macros species together, and they grow just fine like this. Never really noticed any alleopathy problems really.

Tang Buffet?

+1 better than what I got.


OH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I forgot to check the mailbox. I have like 10 field guides coming in today.

aargh...not there.

L-O-L

Calm down! You're geek is showing!

No luck today. Marine patrol kicked me out of the water! Apparently the conditions were "treacherous". He should have been there yesterday. Yeah the current was really, really strong but visibility was awesome! Gulf stream within a few miles from the coast brought in some nice water. Oh and a bunch of cool algae. Sciania complanata, etc...

we also added the snail Anthony Calfo described as a tiny reef safe conch:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/MolluscPIX/Gast...NassariusF1.htm
(Near the bottom)

We have identified as a smooth dove shell, the variable markings are suggestive of that species of dove snail. Harmless detrivore, and breeds to some extent. More of those will be available in batch 2...

Is this still available? If so, how do we order it and how much does it cost?

Tang you; come again...

Yeah once i set up my new sump i would love to buy this!!!

This thread is like 5 months old...

Yeah, I kind of figured that out after I posted... But at least the other 2 might like finding out about the package.

hey guys, we offered the package for 1 month and no one took us up on it so we got rid of it. To keep the micro fauna levels and all took up a large 210 stock tank, and we had to divert it to more profitable avenues...

business stuff....