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TriggerHappyDude
Yep I agree, and the BroadwayPhoto was just a couple of hundred dollars less, thats why I thought I'd ask. Their price was in the ballpark of all the others, and they had 2 page ad in Shutterbug magazine. They seemed very legit.

I usually keep an eye on this page: http://www.canonrumors.com/canon-rumors-price-watch/
TriggerHappyDude
Some guy on Facebook sent me a message about a "trick" to use any aperture in the HD Video...

QUOTE
Thanks for reaching out. Coolest tip. . . you can shoot any aperture on your 5d video. Set it to manual. Set any aperture. Unscrew the lens WHILE PUSHING THE DOF PREVIEW BUTTON. Put a little piece of Gaffers tape or masking tape over the contacts inside the body. Reattach your lens and your in business. It works like a charm. A little on the time consuming side but after not having any control it's a dream actually. The thought of putting the tape inside the camera was scary at first but after you try it you'll see it's not dangerous. Catch you later.


Not sure I believe this or would even try it.
05XRunner
that is the most retarded thing I have ever heard...You already have full control of your aperture with the camera by turning the dial. That guy is a scam or an idiot. That would be a REALLY dumb move if Canon or any camera company adding HD vid to their DSLR and took away the aperture control.
TriggerHappyDude
I figured as much. But I thought I had read where you had no manual control when using the video mode? Maybe I read something else and I'm confused...but it does sound very dumb.

Here is some evidence:
http://www.vimeo.com/2530166

Apparently you don't have full control of the aperture in video mode with this 5D Mark II.
wfournier
QUOTE (TriggerHappyDude @ Apr 15 2009, 08:06 AM) *
I figured as much. But I thought I had read where you had no manual control when using the video mode? Maybe I read something else and I'm confused...but it does sound very dumb.

Here is some evidence:
http://www.vimeo.com/2530166


I agree with 05 that this is a dumb idea seems like it could cause problems down the road, and don't tell Canon or you might have a void warranty. However contrary to what 05 says, the 5D Mk. II does not have manual controls for video recording (beyond AE lock).

05 please spend 30 seconds with google before calling people idiots, it just makes you look bad...
TriggerHappyDude
If you are working with the video mode, could you go the manual aperture lens with an adapter route? You lose auto-focus, but that is no big deal on the 5D Mk2.
wfournier
QUOTE (TriggerHappyDude @ Apr 15 2009, 09:30 AM) *
If you are working with the video mode, could you go the manual aperture lens with an adapter route? You lose auto-focus, but that is no big deal on the 5D Mk2.


I think that would work, but I'm not a canon expert. You don't have autofocus in video mode anyway so it's not a big deal. That actually seems like a good work around to me.
cparka23
People recommend getting a cheap adapter for old nikon lenses that have manual aperture settings.

Another way is to use a neutral density filter when you set the exposure to force the aperture wide open.

It also helps to go into the menu and set the metering timer to 30 minutes in "Live View/Movie func. set." so the camera doesn't attempt to automatically change the settings too frequently.
TriggerHappyDude
Those are all good ideas and work arounds!

Maybe a fix is on the way?

http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/04/5d-mark...te-in-the-wild/
05XRunner
Just another reason if you want video..Buy a Video camera
TriggerHappyDude
QUOTE (05XRunner @ Apr 15 2009, 09:47 AM) *
Just another reason if you want video..Buy a Video camera


I want video, but the quality of video that this 5D Mark II can produce is not going to be there in a separate video camera unless I spend upwards of over $5k? The Canon consumer line of HD Video just doesn't have the same IQ, and that to me doesn't make me want to buy a video camera and DSLR, when I can get both in this one unit, 5D Mark II, and have the IQ. This wasn't a popular feature to me at first, until I saw what all the fans of this camera were doing with the HD Video, and now I want to add to that madness.
05XRunner
QUOTE (TriggerHappyDude @ Apr 15 2009, 11:10 AM) *
I want video, but the quality of video that this can produce is not going to be there unless I spend upwards of over $5k? The Canon consumer line of HD Video just doesn't have the same IQ, and that to me doesn't make me want to buy a video camera and DSLR, when I can get both in this one unit, 5D Mark II, and have the IQ.

Gotta pay to play...there is NO 1 solution thing

There is this
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/4470..._Camcorder.html

and its less then 5k and gently used ones go for the lower 2k mark
TriggerHappyDude
That might be a good solution for me if I start to get really into video and need to separate the duties. But from what I've seen online the video the 5DM2 is putting out, is quite enough for what I have in mind. The limited video is perfect for me and my needs, and with a little post production on a nice Mac with some decent software, I will be producing some pretty creative little home videos. I don't expect the 5DM2 to be an all in one solution, but its pretty close...

This is all I'm looking to do...

http://vimeo.com/4161656
latazyo
FWIW

here's a pic of broadway photo

http://donwiss.com/pictures/brooklynstores/h0006.htm
TriggerHappyDude
Nice! Wow, amazing who can startup a company.
TriggerHappyDude
This site only rates out with 3 stars but there are only 3 reviews...

http://www.digitalrev.com/en/canon-eos-5d-...mp;match_type=1
05XRunner
QUOTE (TriggerHappyDude @ Apr 18 2009, 09:46 AM) *
This site only rates out with 3 stars but there are only 3 reviews...

http://www.digitalrev.com/en/canon-eos-5d-...mp;match_type=1

http://www.adorama.com/ICA5DM2K.html

even cheaper and from a trusted source
latazyo
out of stock, bummer
TriggerHappyDude
Its ok, I have time want to check out the lens in person anyway.
jokercykoe
If you're looking at the 5d MK ii just because of the HD video, take a look at the new Canon T1i. Its next in line for the rebel series, with HD video capture.

http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controll...p;modelid=18385
Rehype
QUOTE (jokercykoe @ Apr 20 2009, 09:30 PM) *
If you're looking at the 5d MK ii just because of the HD video, take a look at the new Canon T1i. Its next in line for the rebel series, with HD video capture.

http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controll...p;modelid=18385



only problem its 720p as opposed to the 5D's 1080p
andykee
QUOTE (Rehype @ Apr 20 2009, 07:11 PM) *
only problem its 720p as opposed to the 5D's 1080p

i wouldn't cite that as the only problem either...
TriggerHappyDude
QUOTE (jokercykoe @ Apr 20 2009, 07:30 PM) *
If you're looking at the 5d MK ii just because of the HD video, take a look at the new Canon T1i. Its next in line for the rebel series, with HD video capture.

http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controll...p;modelid=18385


Yeah, I think we are all familiar with this camera but most of us here discussing the 5D Mark II are not after just its HD Video capabilities, so there is more than just that to compare, but thanks jokercykoe, what kind of camera are you using to take your tank shots?
TriggerHappyDude
I know a lot of you all out there aren't using the HD Video a lot, with this camera but wondered about the support equipment for video and the 5D Mark II...found some cool links to a Glidecam 4000 HD, seems like a cool piece to own?

http://exposureroom.com/members/DVideograp...4f038e9a2e7beb/

http://exposureroom.com/members/DVideograp...ade9238352100a/
TriggerHappyDude
QUOTE (Rehype @ Mar 26 2009, 04:04 PM) *
So my 5DII arrived today with my canon 24-70. I think im in love wub.gif


Rehype,

Where did you buy yours at...I forgot if you've already said so.
I guess you had lenses to cover the 24-105mm f/4, so you didn't go with the kit.
Rehype
QUOTE (Rehype @ Apr 20 2009, 10:11 PM) *
only problem its 720p as opposed to the 5D's 1080p



I wanted to correct this statement. the new canon T1 actually supports 720p as well as 1080p.

QUOTE (TriggerHappyDude @ Apr 21 2009, 04:36 PM) *
Rehype,

Where did you buy yours at...I forgot if you've already said so.
I guess you had lenses to cover the 24-105mm f/4, so you didn't go with the kit.



I bought it from B&H. well the 70-105 range isnt much to lose. im going to pick up a canon 70-200 to cover the longer range. It was toss up between the 24-105 and the 24-70. But in the end i prefer to have the extra stop as opposed to IS. And theres something special about the IQ i get from the 24-70. Its probably in my head but i love the IQ i get from this lens.
TriggerHappyDude
Ok, thats what I remember you telling me somewhere else, couldn't find it. We are on the same exact page, I'm just a little behind you...how are you liking/loving the camera so far?
Rehype
QUOTE (TriggerHappyDude @ Apr 21 2009, 04:55 PM) *
Ok, thats what I remember you telling me somewhere else, couldn't find it. We are on the same exact page, I'm just a little behind you...how are you liking/loving the camera so far?


I love it.The IQ never ceases to amaze me.Ive been really impressed with the IQ at higher iso's. I dont hesistate anymore to shoot at 1600 or even 3200. The real treat for me so far has been how good the video quality is. I mean the low light capabilities of this body just amazes me. I had a consumer hd cam for a bit and while the VQ was fantastic it suffered quite a bit in low light. And thats because of how small the sensor is in most consumer hd cams. However the FF sensor on the 5D2 is just amazing at sucking in light without sacrificing IQ. I will say you need to have a really good pc or mac if you want to render or edit any of the videos from the 5D. I just upgraded my pc to 10GB of Ram and (2)3.6 GZ Xeon Processors with a terabyte of HD space to speed up the process of editing photos and video.
wfournier
QUOTE (05XRunner @ Apr 8 2009, 09:14 AM) *
Oh and what about your D300 and the 14bit files..If you want to shoot at its full 6fps you can only shoot in 12bit color..But if you move it up to 14bit color that drops down to what 1.5fps burst. Yea thats useful...why even give the camera 14bit if it cannot use it at all times full speed?


QUOTE (Rehype @ Apr 21 2009, 04:44 PM) *
I wanted to correct this statement. the new canon T1 actually supports 720p as well as 1080p.


But it slows down to 20 fps at 1080p, I don't know why any camera maker would include a feature if you can't use it at full speed...
Rehype
QUOTE (wfournier @ Apr 21 2009, 05:17 PM) *
But it slows down to 20 fps at 1080p, I don't know why any camera maker would include a feature if you can't use it at full speed...



Very true wfournier. I totally agree but the average soccer mom wont notice the difference.All they will see is wow 1080p instead of 720p!! canon is just trying to one up the D90 and i think they totally succeeded.
wfournier
QUOTE (Rehype @ Apr 21 2009, 05:25 PM) *
Very true wfournier. I totally agree but the average soccer mom wont notice the difference.All they will see is wow 1080p instead of 720p!! canon is just trying to one up the D90 and i think they totally succeeded.


My point was not to criticize the 500D, but to make a point concerning some people's statements...

Really just trying to point out why arguing over this little things is pointless, and yes I believe that joe shmoe wannabe gear-head is going to see 1080p and say "wow that is better than 720p." Which it is, but it is marketing based on specs, and everyone does it.
05XRunner
QUOTE (wfournier @ Apr 21 2009, 05:17 PM) *
But it slows down to 20 fps at 1080p, I don't know why any camera maker would include a feature if you can't use it at full speed...

HMMMMM alot like Nikon with the D300 only shooting 1.5fps with 14bit color and 6fps with the 12bit. Why even offer 14bit
wfournier
QUOTE (05XRunner @ Apr 21 2009, 05:47 PM) *
HMMMMM alot like Nikon with the D300 only shooting 1.5fps with 14bit color and 6fps with the 12bit. Why even offer 14bit


You will notice that I quoted you saying just that...
05XRunner
QUOTE (wfournier @ Apr 21 2009, 05:54 PM) *
You will notice that I quoted you saying just that...

a rebel is an entry level camera so its mostly beginners starting with them so if its crippled a little bit who cares..most wont use it fully...But if you cripple a more of a prosumer higher end body..thats just a dumb move.
Pili
QUOTE (05XRunner @ Apr 21 2009, 05:47 PM) *
HMMMMM alot like Nikon with the D300 only shooting 1.5fps with 14bit color and 6fps with the 12bit. Why even offer 14bit


To give you the option if the situation allows it? If I'm shooting portraits, I'm not going hold the shutter release down and fire off 10 pictures in a row of a subject that probably inst moving all that fast.
TriggerHappyDude
I'll be buying my 5D Mark II in the next week or two...hopefully SOONER. Still waiting to hear back from my wifes uncle who's got that guy he works for who can get it at cost...anyone know why I'm waiting on that, is there a big price difference in "cost" and what I can get it for online?
latazyo
yeah - the one your buddy's dad's brother's uncle is getting is grey market or stolen and the one online is legit
andykee
QUOTE (latazyo @ Apr 21 2009, 06:55 PM) *
yeah - the one your buddy's dad's brother's uncle is getting is grey market or stolen and the one online is legit

bingo!
TriggerHappyDude
QUOTE (latazyo @ Apr 21 2009, 08:55 PM) *
yeah - the one your buddy's dad's brother's uncle is getting is grey market or stolen and the one online is legit


Its actually my wife's uncle's boss who owns a photography company. Not gray market.
Its legit, if he gets a discount, he said it would be cost. Thats all.
brooksthepro
5d mark I owner here.

not sure whats going on in this thread because i cant be bothered to read it all. But iv used the mark II and seen the video results and they are pretty damn good. I wouldnt substitute it for a normal HD camera if thats your thing. But its a really nice feature.

Also, if you plan on keeping the lenes u have for ur rebel, u better make sure the lenses u have arent the crop censor only lenses (EF-S) otherwise ur SOL.
brooksthepro
QUOTE (TriggerHappyDude @ Apr 21 2009, 11:57 PM) *
Its actually my wife's uncle's boss who owns a photography company. Not gray market.
Its legit, if he gets a discount, he said it would be cost. Thats all.


if your hoping for a BIG discount, i wouldn't get too excited.

Alot of my good friends work at camera stores and they get me all of my merch at cost.....on camera's and lenses u don't get very much of a discount, the camera stores barely make a profit on cameras and lenses. They just sell them to get you in the store and to get you to buy camera accessories, thats where they make most of there money.

just my .02c
TriggerHappyDude
QUOTE (brooksthepro @ Apr 21 2009, 10:18 PM) *
if your hoping for a BIG discount, i wouldn't get too excited.

Alot of my good friends work at camera stores and they get me all of my merch at cost.....on camera's and lenses u don't get very much of a discount, the camera stores barely make a profit on cameras and lenses. They just sell them to get you in the store and to get you to buy camera accessories, thats where they make most of there money.

just my .02c


Thats what I'm curious to see, what the discount actually is. Even if its a $100 or less, thats still not bad, unless with tax it comes out to be more than an online order? I just want to know the figure before I pull the trigger...
andykee
QUOTE (TriggerHappyDude @ Apr 21 2009, 09:08 PM) *
Thats what I'm curious to see, what the discount actually is. Even if its a $100 or less, thats still not bad, unless with tax it comes out to be more than an online order? I just want to know the figure before I pull the trigger...

there is also a benefit to paying full price from an authorized canon retailer. in the event that you need it serviced / have a warranty issue, you won't encounter any problems. buy it off the gray market and you run the risk of having to ship the camera halfway around the world to get it serviced, or even worse - can't get it serviced at all.
latazyo
Andy, he's getting a Canon, what could go wrong?
TriggerHappyDude
QUOTE (andykee @ Apr 22 2009, 12:01 AM) *
there is also a benefit to paying full price from an authorized canon retailer. in the event that you need it serviced / have a warranty issue, you won't encounter any problems. buy it off the gray market and you run the risk of having to ship the camera halfway around the world to get it serviced, or even worse - can't get it serviced at all.


What are you guys not understanding? Its NOT gray market, he runs a professional photography company, he's not buying gray market equipment for his business for these very reason's you stated. I don't know who he gets his equipment from, because I haven't talked to him, but its not gray market, I promise. I don't know if he gets it retail or not, or if its straight from Canon or what. I'll know more when he gives me this quote.
latazyo
I heard that 65% of family owned camera shops in the US get their Canon products from Somali pirated cargo ships

I don't why it only applies to Canon products though...I think its because NIkon products head east, across the pacific, while Canon products go west via the indian ocean because its faster to get to New Jersey that way
andykee
QUOTE (latazyo @ Apr 22 2009, 06:34 AM) *
I heard that 65% of family owned camera shops in the US get their Canon products from Somali pirated cargo ships

I don't why it only applies to Canon products though...I think its because NIkon products head east, across the pacific, while Canon products go west via the indian ocean because its faster to get to New Jersey that way

happy45.gif
TriggerHappyDude
And moving on to more discussion about the 5D Mark II...

Found a cool little tip for those of you who want to shoot video;

http://prolost.com/blog/2008/5/18/the-dv-r...lready-own.html
Rehype
QUOTE (TriggerHappyDude @ Apr 22 2009, 08:28 PM) *
And moving on to more discussion about the 5D Mark II...

Found a cool little tip for those of you who want to shoot video;

http://prolost.com/blog/2008/5/18/the-dv-r...lready-own.html



Pretty cool...too bad i prefer monopods
TriggerHappyDude
QUOTE (Rehype @ Apr 22 2009, 10:13 PM) *
Pretty cool...too bad i prefer monopods


Well if you already have a tripod, you can do this and its free.
Do you have some footage of you doing these kinds of techniques with the monopod?
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