andykee
Mar 9 2009, 05:47 PM
so all this time i've been shooting with the world's cheapest "glass" (if you can even call it glass in quotes!) that's right, i'm still shooting with the kit lens that came with my rebel 2000. it's a 28-80/3.5 pile-o-poo.
UPGRADE TIME!!
should I get the 50/1.4 or the 24-70/2.8L (which will require me to eat ramen for about a week)?
discuss
05XRunner
Mar 9 2009, 05:51 PM
that depends on your shooting style..I do not like primes so I have the L
also what 50 1.4
the Sigma 50 1.4 is better then the canon one. I have owned it and it was a very nice piece of glass..So far most of the reviews back that as well.
SulfurAcid
Mar 9 2009, 05:56 PM
I love my 50mm/1.8, and Im pretty sure a 1.8 is a cheaper alternative to a 1.4.
BTW, Ramen noodles aren't that bad, lol.
andykee
Mar 9 2009, 05:58 PM
QUOTE (05XRunner @ Mar 9 2009, 02:51 PM)

that depends on your shooting style..I do not like primes so I have the L
also what 50 1.4
the Sigma 50 1.4 is better then the canon one. I have owned it and it was a very nice piece of glass..So far most of the reviews back that as well.
i was looking at the canon model. also, i haven't shot a prime lens in 5+ years, and never on digital (or when i really knew what i was doing)
also, how is the sharpness on the L, especially at shorter focal-lengths? i'm eventually hoping to pick up the 16-35 II but know that it goes soft above 24-ish mm.
QUOTE (SulfurAcid @ Mar 9 2009, 02:56 PM)

I love my 50mm/1.8, and Im pretty sure a 1.8 is a cheaper alternative to a 1.4.
BTW, Ramen noodles aren't that bad, lol.
yeah, i'm looking for something a little more durable than the 1.8. plus, if i'm gonna spend the money, i may as well get the fastest (practical to own) 50 canon sells.
05XRunner
Mar 9 2009, 06:17 PM
my copy is tack sharp wide open from 24-70....but I know its not out of the ordinary to get one of them that is not that sharp..I bought mine 2nd hand so i knew I was getting a good copy. instead of playing a guessing game with it.
Orangegsx
Mar 9 2009, 06:21 PM
If you can't decide get your L lens AND a 50mm 1.8.. they are like 80-90 bucks. You can't go wrong with L glass, But primes are really fun and create some fun effect to the picture, amazing bokeh from the 1.4
This was shot with a 50mm 1.4 at 1.4,, 3 am and no tripod. very clear and collects a LOT of light

This one was with my 50mm 1.8
andykee
Mar 9 2009, 06:26 PM
QUOTE (05XRunner @ Mar 9 2009, 03:17 PM)

my copy is tack sharp wide open from 24-70....but I know its not out of the ordinary to get one of them that is not that sharp..I bought mine 2nd hand so i knew I was getting a good copy. instead of playing a guessing game with it.
yeah, do you know what the procedure is (if there is one) to deal with an out of sync lens? i'd assume you can send it to canon to have it recalibrated for a price. is it possible that i get a flat out crappy lens that can't be fixed at any cost though?
05XRunner
Mar 9 2009, 06:30 PM
well if its new..then you just send it to canon for calibration. if they cant get it right I am sure it would be replaced.
Now I know if you send a lens in for work there is a min fee of about $130 so thats what it would cost if it was out of calibration if it wasnt in warranty
latazyo
Mar 9 2009, 06:33 PM
andy,
fwiw, I bought the sig 24-60/2.8 in january and I love it
I also have a 50/1.8, but it is nikkor so that doesn't help you any
I honestly think your best bet is to get BOTH the 24-70/2.8 AND the 50/1.8
the 50/1.8 is only $100 and will serve you VERY well until you can afford the 50/1.4
and its not like you wouldn't be able to sell a 50/1.8 everyone wants them that's in the hobby and not looking for the 1.4
andykee
Mar 9 2009, 06:33 PM
QUOTE (05XRunner @ Mar 9 2009, 03:30 PM)

well if its new..then you just send it to canon for calibration. if they cant get it right I am sure it would be replaced.
Now I know if you send a lens in for work there is a min fee of about $130 so thats what it would cost if it was out of calibration if it wasnt in warranty
ok, so it is (obviously) safer to buy a new lens sight unseen than a used one which is supposedly "good". i'll just think of the extra cost as my insurance policy on it
latazyo
Mar 9 2009, 06:36 PM
do you guys have an 85 1.4 or an 85 1.8 at all?
05XRunner
Mar 9 2009, 06:39 PM
yea got an 85 1.8 and an 85 1.2
andykee
Mar 9 2009, 06:42 PM
also have a 50/1.2 for a small fee of $1400
05XRunner
Mar 9 2009, 07:01 PM
QUOTE (andykee @ Mar 9 2009, 07:42 PM)

also have a 50/1.2 for a small fee of $1400

and I feel is worthless..due to its deisgn and the focus shift makes it a pure pain in the ass
latazyo
Mar 9 2009, 10:18 PM
now that I have my 50, I wish I had an 85
andy if you're using it for people, look into the 85
andykee
Mar 10 2009, 03:31 PM
QUOTE (latazyo @ Mar 9 2009, 08:18 PM)

now that I have my 50, I wish I had an 85
andy if you're using it for people, look into the 85
i have a crop body, so 50 is 80
now the real question is whether the 28-80 i have is an EF or EF-S lens. hmmmm...
Orangegsx
Mar 10 2009, 03:38 PM
red dot on mount is ef, white is ef-s
andykee
Mar 10 2009, 03:43 PM
QUOTE (Orangegsx @ Mar 10 2009, 01:38 PM)

red dot on mount is ef, white is ef-s
kick ass, didn't know that
it is a red dot. i also figured it out anyways, since it was originally shipped on a 35mm film camera, it HAS to be EF
dshnarw
Mar 10 2009, 04:01 PM
might be useful:
http://photonotes.org/articles/beginner-faq/lenses.htmlabout a quarter of the way down, it lists nearly every canon-made lens. some other good info as well.
andykee
Mar 10 2009, 04:50 PM
QUOTE (dshnarw @ Mar 10 2009, 02:01 PM)

might be useful:
http://photonotes.org/articles/beginner-faq/lenses.htmlabout a quarter of the way down, it lists nearly every canon-made lens. some other good info as well.
yep, and #7 on the lint under "cheapies"... my rad lens
i'm 99% sold on picking up the L on friday. it's just a shame that amazon is a few hundred dollars cheaper than any of the stores around here, so i'm going to have to wait to get it :-/
latazyo
Mar 10 2009, 05:07 PM
damn, I have amazon prime, so its 3.99 overnight shipping, sucker
andykee
Mar 10 2009, 05:16 PM
QUOTE (latazyo @ Mar 10 2009, 03:07 PM)

damn, I have amazon prime, so its 3.99 overnight shipping, sucker
moar prz
edit: they offer a free month. now i get $3.99 overnight shipping too
dshnarw
Mar 10 2009, 05:37 PM
QUOTE (andykee @ Mar 10 2009, 05:50 PM)

yep, and #7 on the lint under "cheapies"... my rad lens
not far in front is my 18-55
i'd really like the 17-55 f/2.8 to replace it...just gotta find a thousand bucks sitting around somewhere
andykee
Mar 10 2009, 05:41 PM
QUOTE (dshnarw @ Mar 10 2009, 03:37 PM)

not far in front is my 18-55
i'd really like the 17-55 f/2.8 to replace it...just gotta find a thousand bucks sitting around somewhere

working overtime last week is covering the cost of this one (almost)
dshnarw
Mar 10 2009, 05:53 PM
QUOTE (andykee @ Mar 10 2009, 06:41 PM)

working overtime last week is covering the cost of this one (almost)
stupid grad school
latazyo
Mar 10 2009, 06:25 PM
no kidding, it sucks
my wife gives me an allowance like a little kid
dshnarw
Mar 10 2009, 06:30 PM
QUOTE (latazyo @ Mar 10 2009, 07:25 PM)

no kidding, it sucks
my wife gives me an allowance like a little kid
Our wives must talk to each other...
O well, only a year or so left, I hope.
latazyo
Mar 10 2009, 07:01 PM
same here
Andy, my sensors are crop also, but I still wish I was a little closer in sometimes, the 85 1.8 is definitely on my middle-short list
andykee
Mar 10 2009, 08:52 PM
marriage ftl
i buy whatever i want, whenever i want

then again, my best friend is my left hand...
05XRunner
Mar 10 2009, 09:13 PM
1D Mark III for me in the next month or so
dshnarw
Mar 10 2009, 09:28 PM
QUOTE (andykee @ Mar 10 2009, 09:52 PM)

marriage ftl
i buy whatever i want, whenever i want

then again, my best friend is my left hand...
lol, but the wife is an accountant. i get to play around with rocks and cameras, while she makes the money.
Lalani
Mar 10 2009, 09:31 PM
QUOTE (andykee @ Mar 10 2009, 07:52 PM)

then again, my best friend is my left hand...
I knew I was watching this thread for a reason.
andykee
Mar 10 2009, 09:34 PM
QUOTE (Lalani @ Mar 10 2009, 07:31 PM)

I knew I was watching this thread for a reason.
thanks for the lens input

QUOTE (05XRunner @ Mar 10 2009, 07:13 PM)

1D Mark III for me in the next month or so

5D Mk2 > 1D Mk3 IMO
Lalani
Mar 10 2009, 09:36 PM
QUOTE (andykee @ Mar 10 2009, 08:34 PM)

thanks for the lens input

I'm completely out of the loop as far as lenses are concerned.
andykee
Mar 10 2009, 09:41 PM
QUOTE (Lalani @ Mar 10 2009, 07:36 PM)

I'm completely out of the loop as far as lenses are concerned.

what are you shooting?
Lalani
Mar 10 2009, 09:46 PM
My general purpose lens is the Canon 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM. 100mm f2.8 for macros, 50mm f1.8 for some others. A couple others that never see the light of day, lol.
05XRunner
Mar 10 2009, 09:47 PM
QUOTE (andykee @ Mar 10 2009, 10:34 PM)

thanks for the lens input

5D Mk2 > 1D Mk3 IMO
not in my eyes..the 5D II has no interest to me what so ever..its slow and just crammed with MP..and a 5year old focus system that wasnt that great to begin with.
I need pure speed and made for sports.
andykee
Mar 10 2009, 11:50 PM
QUOTE (05XRunner @ Mar 10 2009, 07:47 PM)

not in my eyes..the 5D II has no interest to me what so ever..its slow and just crammed with MP..and a 5year old focus system that wasnt that great to begin with.
I need pure speed and made for sports.
yeah, for me MP and low light performance > speed
05XRunner
Mar 11 2009, 08:11 AM
QUOTE (andykee @ Mar 11 2009, 12:50 AM)

yeah, for me MP and low light performance > speed
yes but the 1DIII has about the same low light performance up to ISO 6400 that it goes to...It was compared side by side on the canon forums..the 5DII might be a tiny tiny bit better..but then the AF of the 1DIII blows it away in any lighting. I bet if you ever picked up a 1 series you would never want to go back...Ever since I got my 1DII I dont think I could ever buy a non pro body again. It just fits and feels so good in hands.
andykee
Mar 11 2009, 12:55 PM
QUOTE (05XRunner @ Mar 11 2009, 06:11 AM)

yes but the 1DIII has about the same low light performance up to ISO 6400 that it goes to...It was compared side by side on the canon forums..the 5DII might be a tiny tiny bit better..but then the AF of the 1DIII blows it away in any lighting. I bet if you ever picked up a 1 series you would never want to go back...Ever since I got my 1DII I dont think I could ever buy a non pro body again. It just fits and feels so good in hands.
i know, that's what i'm afraid of. i have zero use for the HD video capabilities of the 5D2, but one of my huge concerns with the 1D line is their size. many of the locations i photograph require a pretty serious hike, and i'm trying to minimize size and weight as much as i can.
what i really need to do is go out and play with the 5D2 and 1D3 and see which i like better. i'm just not sure if the extra $500 to get the better AF and burst speed is worth the halving of the MP in my case.
05XRunner
Mar 11 2009, 12:57 PM
well just wait a few more days..canon is announcing something on March 25TH of their EOS line..Alot are thinking its a New 1D..some are thinking maybe a 7D or 3D..but we shall see
andykee
Mar 11 2009, 01:42 PM
QUOTE (05XRunner @ Mar 11 2009, 10:57 AM)

well just wait a few more days..canon is announcing something on March 25TH of their EOS line..Alot are thinking its a New 1D..some are thinking maybe a 7D or 3D..but we shall see
oh nice, i was unaware.
i'm not planning on upgrading bodies for at least a few months anyways
andykee
Mar 13 2009, 08:11 PM
bought the 24-70 today... it'll be here on tuesday. woot!
Lalani
Mar 13 2009, 08:43 PM
Yay!
At the same time I saw this post, I stumbled across this pic.......... hummina hummina hummina
jeremai
Mar 13 2009, 08:46 PM
I think that 16-35 may be my next purchase.
Lalani
Mar 13 2009, 08:55 PM
I only have maybe 2-4 of those boxes..... *sigh*
dshnarw
Mar 13 2009, 09:04 PM
got my next 3 planned out...
sigma 150 macro
17-55 f/2.8
one of the 70-200 L
nearly enough to get the macro now. hopefully 17-55 in time for hawaii too
andykee
Mar 13 2009, 09:17 PM
QUOTE (jeremai @ Mar 13 2009, 06:46 PM)

I think that 16-35 may be my next purchase.

mine too
05XRunner
Mar 13 2009, 10:04 PM
QUOTE (Lalani @ Mar 13 2009, 09:43 PM)

Yay!
At the same time I saw this post, I stumbled across this pic.......... hummina hummina hummina

thats not even that big of a box collection as to what people have posted in the show your boxes thread on the canon forum
Lalani
Mar 13 2009, 10:06 PM
It still makes me feel inadequate.
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