Thank you gentlemen

FTFY

I am sorry ladies and gentlemen

Ah that's very interesting. I didn't think the type of lighting would effect their pigmentation but I guess that makes sense since the pigments are probably a response to the lighting, of course genes and luck have a lot to do with it. It will be interesting to see how many people end up with grade A vs B picassos. Personally I think the B's are a little nicer looking I like the bar that breaks up the white myself. Very informative Christosclowns thanks.

Thanks man! Break out the candles and get those babies in the mood!

Wow, Cristo. I haven't seen your thread in a week and it has really blown up ! I like how you are constantly experimenting. I myself like to do the same. What type of chiller are you going to be using on your new setup in the garage? It has to get really hot in Florida in the summer? Also what type of reastarunt(s) do you own? I am currently willing to train for an executive chef position.

Well thank you for everyones interest. I hope this thread goes crazy I love the responses and the interest that the hobbyist has. I just hope it turns out well and i do produce snowflakes if not then oh well lol but im sure weel get some. Anyway yes i do experiment allot, and i love playing with certain enviornments to see what happens to the outcome of the clowns. I guess you cant find any real answers unless you try it for yourself. I widh I was hiring for chefs but im the head chef in my one restaurant, and my brother is the other head chef in my other restaurant. If you wanna fly out to Tampa and come see how we do it feel free. I have many people who have come in on multiple occasions to learn certain things. When you dont have to pay for help or experience its the best type of help. Anyway hope to hear form everyone soon i will be posting pix as soon as she lays again which will be within this week see ya

http://www.marinebreeder.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=4189

Unicorn u need to grow up. Like I care what you post. I have proven who I am to many people. My fish and my friendlyiness has proven my self. You can post whatever you want its funny how you have five posts.And all fuve are against me trying to cause trouble I already found out who you are. And you know what its pretty pathetic that you would waste your time to be so stupid. .what are you trying to prove. breeding clownfish in my book whether they are rare or basic is an accomplishment. Have you bred clowns you probably dont even know how to spell the word clownfish. LMAO i find your posts humurous and moronic because what I did on marine breeder was nothing in comparison to what they did to me.I guess jealousy speaks for itself. Id like to say thank you Unicorn for envying me and taking time to post on my thread.Why dont you roll a red carpet out and let me walk on it to lol your a noob

I'm curious, what DID they do to you?

http://www.marinebreeder.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=4189

these are some of the best breeders in the world. probably the most knowledgeable group of breeders at any single online location, so if they have an issue with i wonder if its justified..........

Kid, you posted that same topic 13hours ago. This was all explained and there are a few members here who have recieved their fish and are quite happy with them.

Time for you to go away. Ask your Mommy to get you a Yo-Yo or something to occupy your time.

that thread from marine breeder has already being brought up here and discussed with christos. He has proven that they are his fish.

In the meantime, you have provided no information about yourself or your credentials as being knowledgeable about any of this. In fact, your soul purpose seems to be to try to discredit Erik. Put up or shut up, IMO.

yeah put up or shut up lol I like that scott. Anyway forget him I aint worried about some goober that is out to get me ohhhhh. Dude your a joke lmao get a life. Scott and don your fish are on there way. I packed them real well and heat packs so i hope they get there ok

Or is it sole?

the system is up and runnng with most of my pairs in it.Just updating pix





























enjoy

man tho's picasso's are so amazing! I really want to get a pair like yours they are so pretty!

just stumbled across this thread.....wow. just wow.




those are some amazing fish.

I like that male on your first page. these are a morph of false percs right?

please lemme know when they're availible

That has got to be one of the best come backs. I come home from a hard day at work and just for ######s and giggles, re read unicorn's posts and see what crap he's been shoveling since I went to work.

Ah...
I so needed the laugh

Mods...please tell me yo-yo boy has been banned..really make my day

nice fish, are you using the other tanks for grow out? Im curious if your gonna have the broodstock and grow out tanks plumbed together.

Yes the bottom tears are going to be for growout. Each species will have there own unit. The whole system is based off one filtration unit, so yes it is plumbed together. I added another 37 watt uv on it so now I have a total of 94 watts uv lol, sterile aint the word. It holds almost 350 gallons right now and i can max it prob to 400 but im gna leave it the way it is. Thank you for your comments on the fish those are my lil kids. I sold off 9 other pairs and narrowed it down to the ones I really wanted. The onyx in the last pic is a baby from the parents in my onyx spawning thread. She is about a year and a half old. As far as the growout process, if I ever get to many clowns them i have a back up system that i will just add on, which is another three tears. I have it in storage right now so there was no use for it. The snowflake pair should be laying the next two days i just hope the move into this system did not really throw off there spawn see ya

well nothing yet im still waiting she should have layed bu now i wonder if the big move into the new system through off her spawning by a week or two i guess ill have to see

you could try the hcg injection again

Cool!

I think im just gonna let her do her thing. The spawning was def thrown off from the move but i think it wont be long before she lays again. The point of this was to give all my fish a better enviornment for water quality and space we shall see

Wow what a setup! So what do you use for filtration on a system like that? Can we get some pics? Is it weird that reefers rather see the equipment rooms over the fish sometimes?

i am curious in the hcg injection, what doasage ratio did you use? I know that with striped bass it is a very fine line between nothing/spawn/death. Did you traquelize the female first, if so how? Also what method did you use in finding out how far the eggs had migrated?

Snowflakes are THEE only clown.

As far as pix go I iwll update them tonight. The injection process was done by a good friend of mine that is an itchyiologist. I would be lying to you if I told you the exact amount. What he did was very minimal I know that like extremely minimal because clownfish are so small. Im guessing like a quarter of an ml. He took her and put her in BREEDING NET. Then he took this pair of gogles that are magnifying glasses with a bright light on them. He held her head still and cupped her in his hand with a latex glove on. I saw him actually place the needle in her tail right on the edga where the fin starts to go into the round formation. She twitched for about 20 minutes and then settled down. After about a week or two she was hydrated. I know you can buy pituitary hormone but I would be very careful. I did this with a clownfish that I had for over 4 years she is still alive and spawning 1 year later so obviusly it did not do anything to her as far as fertility or any harm to her inner organs, as far as I know. AND SNOWFLAKES ARE FRICKIN AWESOME LOL

I used to work down there in the Tampa area as fisheries biologist, i probably know the guy (especially if he had access to turn your wifes pee, into pure HCG). What about when you used the carp petuitary, how did you check to see if she was even producing eggs? I ask this because I know that you can inject CP and/or HCG and absolutly nothing will happen if there isn't any eggs.

His Name is Raymond Jenkins and as far as the eggs thing goes i have heard of that as well. I wont induce again because there is no need, but i hope this snowflake occ pair lays again soon. That move def through off their cycle. But then again it was for long term purposes as well. When you breed clowns in a non lynked system it is a pain to do water changes and maintain water quality. So I built the new system so its easier for me and healthier for them. Now its jst a waiting game and I hope she spawns soon. Thre male does not stop cleaning all day it is just up to her now

Can't say I know him, who does he work for? Any refrences that you know of where I can look into that doasage ratio for HCG or CP

Im not exactly sure where you can find the correct dosage but I will call him and try to get info out of him for you. Anyway its been now 12 days since the move and still no eggs so Hopefully shes only a week or two off cuz I really need her to lay again lol the more practice and more eggs the better off the male is learning how to fertelize and tend them. I am posting pix again of the system for those who were interested in a bit more detail

The tank approz 350 gallons with the sump



Sump



3 Quarter horse chiller



57 watt UV

My start of a refugium



The controller for the Chiller and the chiller has a 27 watt uv built in so thats 84 watts total



My incubation station

Nice Setup and Pic's. What else is there for filtration aside from the BIO Balls?

The Onyx Clowns you sent me are doing great. I'll put up more pics in the other thread tomorrow.

we;; as far as filytayion theres the bio balls in the top tear and the bottom. Live rock in the 2ns and third tear. filter pads above the bio balls and the sock in front of the bioballs. I am adding a lot of kaluerpa and kelp this weekend plus another 80 lbs live rock. I am going to make a sick refugium lol

any luck with the picasso's? haven't been on here in awhile, set up is tight bro.

Do you remove the eggs, or let them hatch in the breeder tank? If I read correctly you have live rotis in your system? I also noticed no skimmer...is this to keep the phyto from being filtered out?

No I actually incubate the eggs in a different tank. That setup is strictly for breeding purposes and when the clowns are big enough i will put them in the top tear and bottom tear for growout. I dont have a skimmer on there because the way the water flows it skims itself. I put the sock in to catch the smaller particles that a skimmer would. I never do put phyti or rotifer in the setup because i use ten gallon tank until they grow up big enough to put in the bigger system. And as far as the picassos go still no spawn im still awaiting. The new move def stopped most of my breeders. Im not worried though because they will start up again its normal some may take longer than others. Like I said in a previous post its just a waiting game now. Im a lil pissed off lol but i had no choice. stay tuned lol

OK I GOT GREAT NEWS. TONIGHT SHE WAS CLEANING FINALLY AFTER THE MOVE LOL. SHE LOOKS TO BE A BIT HYDRATED WITH EGGS AND IM EXPECTING A CLUTCH WITHIN THE NEXT THREE DAYS I HOPE IM RIGHT

Thats Great news Erik. Looking forward to getting some of these. How about some Pictures of her.

congrats!

Well shes cleaning hard and eating like a pig. I dont see a full abdomen yet so well see her pot is pretty gross with algae, so it might take them a couple days to clean it off but im crossing my fingers for spawn number three

thats dope I would love to see that

Ok we have eggs adain I will post oictures and it looked like the male was doing a bit better we shall see

Congrats Erik, I hope it works out this time.

YAY!!! congrats man... keep us posted...