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Jamie
Okay, well, if you've been following my thread for my surge tank, you already know about this, but if not, here it is, the formal thread for my newest coldwater tank.

The tank itself may look familiar - see it's earlier stage in my sig. There have been some modifications though. New stand, more flow, and new light (which I haven't really decided on yet). I got rid of this tank before because the flow wasn't enough to keep the nems happy. Hopefully what I've got now will keep them happy - I'm certainly looking forward to a smaller tank.

Right now the tank doesn't have a light fixture, so pictures are difficult. I tried taking some under normal lights, and just holding an actinic fixture above the tank, out of view of the camera. It didn't really work. I messed with them on the comp to try to get them to look better, but that didn't work either, since I don't have photoshop. But you get to see them anyway!

this was the best one. (still fail though)



and some of my more failed attempts







and a not very good top down anemone picture



sorry, I'll try to come up with some better pics tomorrow.
SmittyCoco
I am on board . Looks great. Always amazed with the cold water, and ZERO edge to boot !!!! ohmy.gif
Lalani
Suweet!
ddr_phish
This is gonna be really cool... Once we see some pics that is tongue.gif
jeremai
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lakshwadeep
I liked that last anemone shot. It's almost like a ghost picture.
clifford513
Can't wait for some good pics biggrin.gif
Jamie
Thanks all. I'll try again tomorrow when the sun is up. wink.gif
dshnarw
QUOTE (jeremai @ Dec 30 2008, 12:13 AM) *
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thats my line sleep.gif
Jamie
^ tongue.gif

Yay for slightly better pics! (I really need to get a light)





I might try to diy some sort of led thing, but I'm terrible with electronics, so I probably shouldn't try. But if anyone has any suggestions...
blizzardscout2
A Zeroedge Coldwater tank, how cool is that? Cant wait to see pics when you have good lighting.
Jamie
Seattle! You should be the one with a coldwater tank. Sooo much good stuff hanging off the docks just waiting to be collected. Still no light, unfortunately, so no pics yet.

I did just take a brief trip to the beach, though, and the washed up kelp was fun to sift through, as it it always is, though you do get some weird looks from people walking by. tongue.gif One piece of kelp brought up what it was attached to (a few barnacles) with it. And on those barnacles, there just so happened to be a little baby chiton! So he's in my tank now. I think he's alive, though he was sitting on the beach for quite a while. And, they don't move very much, so I can't really tell. If he's in a different spot tomorrow then I'll know. tongue.gif

The tank had been a little murky since the change, and all the nems are closed. I added carbon while I was gone, and it seems to have mostly cleared up by now, but still a little murky. I think tonight I'll test nitrates and see if something funky is going on. Could also be allelopathy, the nems have never been in the same tank before. dunno, we'll see, I guess.

Since I have no tank pictures for you, you can see a few pics I took at the beach this morning. I got a little cannon point and shoot with an underwater housing for christmas, and I was eager to try it out. No actual underwater shots, because it was high tide, but someday. Maybe next weekend - there's a very big low (-1.7). anyways, pics:

kelp on the beach


Looks tropical in this picture. In reality, it was about 35 degrees with occasional hail and snow showers. tongue.gif


Seagull


Squall off of Neahkahnie mountain.


-Jamie
Jamie
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The tank is leaking.


I think it's coming from the outflow pipe, but I dunno. All I know is that I definitely don't have time to fix it in the foreseeable future. That means, for at least a month or so, this tank is going to have to come down. Sorry to get you guys all excited. sleep.gif
OB1
QUOTE (Jamie @ Jan 4 2009, 11:34 AM) *
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The tank is leaking.


I think it's coming from the outflow pipe, but I dunno. All I know is that I definitely don't have time to fix it in the foreseeable future. That means, for at least a month or so, this tank is going to have to come down. Sorry to get you guys all excited. sleep.gif

If it's not a pressure fitting you could get some of that epoxy stuff for plumbing and try to stop it.
Jamie
I could, yes, but that's how I sealed it originally, and apparently that didn't work, though I'm not even sure that's where the leak is coming from, the whole back board of the tank is equally soaked. For now, everything has been moved into my old 16 gallon bow. I'm actually somewhat interested in pursuing a larger tank like this - it would allow me to keep fish (other than catalina's and tiny sculpins), which I have always wanted. So, if the bigger tank goes well, I might just keep it, but if after a few months, I think I want to switch back to something smaller, I'll fix up the zeroedge and give it another go.
Boomboy
cool pictures. very cool tank
adinsxq
woo i like the photos
OB1
QUOTE (Jamie @ Jan 4 2009, 10:39 PM) *
I could, yes, but that's how I sealed it originally, and apparently that didn't work, though I'm not even sure that's where the leak is coming from, the whole back board of the tank is equally soaked. For now, everything has been moved into my old 16 gallon bow. I'm actually somewhat interested in pursuing a larger tank like this - it would allow me to keep fish (other than catalina's and tiny sculpins), which I have always wanted. So, if the bigger tank goes well, I might just keep it, but if after a few months, I think I want to switch back to something smaller, I'll fix up the zeroedge and give it another go.

What other kind of small fish could you keep?
Jamie
boom and adin - thanks!

ob1 - well, there are these cool, small greenling (no formal ID) that I have had before (look in the beginning of the surge tank thread) that were just a little too big for the tanks I was keeping them in. Also, some of the slightly larger sculpins and a couple kinds of gobies that might work.
Needreefunds
ugh.....sorry 'bout the leak Jamie.

Hopefully you can get it repaired and running again soon. Was looking purdy too.. sad.gif

Hang in there buddy.
OB1
QUOTE (Jamie @ Jan 5 2009, 07:21 PM) *
boom and adin - thanks!

ob1 - well, there are these cool, small greenling (no formal ID) that I have had before (look in the beginning of the surge tank thread) that were just a little too big for the tanks I was keeping them in. Also, some of the slightly larger sculpins and a couple kinds of gobies that might work.


The greenling I know of can get 2'+ and happens to taste very good laugh.gif I found one of these when diving and thought it would be a cool fish. Grunt Sculpin
My diving experience was years ago and I regret not paying to much attention to the very small things. I was more into spearfishing and collecting stuff from wrecks.
kingwintergreen
QUOTE (Jamie @ Jan 5 2009, 08:21 PM) *
boom and adin - thanks!

ob1 - well, there are these cool, small greenling (no formal ID) that I have had before (look in the beginning of the surge tank thread) that were just a little too big for the tanks I was keeping them in. Also, some of the slightly larger sculpins and a couple kinds of gobies that might work.


There are smallish garibaldi available right now at foreshores.net. Also, if you ever get further south look in the Coos Bay area (Charleston docks) pull up some rocks at low tide-- you'll find gunnels of all sizes squirming everywhere. It's beautiful.
Hope you fixed that leak, good luck.
Jamie
QUOTE (OB1 @ Jan 6 2009, 08:53 AM) *
The greenling I know of can get 2'+ and happens to taste very good laugh.gif I found one of these when diving and thought it would be a cool fish. Grunt Sculpin
My diving experience was years ago and I regret not paying to much attention to the very small things. I was more into spearfishing and collecting stuff from wrecks.


yes, some greenling get big, and are quite delicious. tongue.gif The type I found seems to be a smaller variety -there are something like 15 different species here! And I'd also love a grunt sculpin, though I've never seen one tidepooling. Maybe once I start diving here I'll find one!

QUOTE (kingwintergreen @ Jan 6 2009, 01:54 PM) *
There are smallish garibaldi available right now at foreshores.net. Also, if you ever get further south look in the Coos Bay area (Charleston docks) pull up some rocks at low tide-- you'll find gunnels of all sizes squirming everywhere. It's beautiful.
Hope you fixed that leak, good luck.


ohmy.gif WANT! But what would I do when it got big? I wonder if the zoo/aquarium would take it? are they particularly fast growers?

If I'm ever down there I'll try and remember. wink.gif
adinsxq


in diver's den -- hurry!
Jamie
omg, I'm totally buying it - but what's with their temperature suggestion? huh.gif
Jamie
okay, it should be here friday biggrin.gif
dshnarw
QUOTE (Jamie @ Jan 7 2009, 11:30 PM) *
omg, I'm totally buying it - but what's with their temperature suggestion? huh.gif


A. equina is found from England to South Africa, so they probably got it from a tropical source
jeremai
Or they could just be morons.
dshnarw
QUOTE (jeremai @ Jan 8 2009, 01:21 PM) *
Or they could just be morons.


...i wont deny that possibility
Kraylen
Jamie, can you take a post more picture of your collection grounds? I may do a similar set up in Monterey.
jeremai
Monterey? Enjoy your night in jail. wink.gif
Kraylen
Not as much as you would cupcake!

you have to get caught to goto jail sir.
Jamie
So, if it's from a tropical source will it be okay in a coldwater tank? How should I acclimate it? I don't really have the option to slowly lower the temp, since the tank is already cold.

QUOTE (Kraylen @ Jan 8 2009, 12:41 PM) *
Jamie, can you take a post more picture of your collection grounds? I may do a similar set up in Monterey.


I'll probably go to the beach this weekend, so I might be able to get one then (though it will be at night, so it might not work super well. DEFINITELY bringing underwater camera and a flashlight.

QUOTE (Kraylen @ Jan 8 2009, 01:13 PM) *
Not as much as you would cupcake!

you have to get caught to goto jail sir.


lol, this is like my dad fishing. "I don't care if we snagged it in the tail, it's out of season, and we forgot our fishing licenses at home. It's a spring chinook, and we're keeping it!"

true story
dshnarw
QUOTE (Jamie @ Jan 8 2009, 06:13 PM) *
So, if it's from a tropical source will it be okay in a coldwater tank? How should I acclimate it? I don't really have the option to slowly lower the temp, since the tank is already cold.


should be fine. i did it with the red guys from 80* summer weather at the wholesaler to 60* tank. I just tied the bag to the outside of the glass to cool the water slower, and after a few hours did the normal float and drop. they seemed pretty ticked off for a few days, but got over it.

for the really paranoid, a bucket and powerhead could keep it a few days, and add more and more ice to a ziploc to chill it at a slower rate.
kingwintergreen
What a score, I'm jealous. Can't wait to see a shot of the blue beads.
Jamie
It's in the tank! The water it came in was 65 degrees, so I just temp acclimated like normal and plopped him in. He's a little po'd right now, but he was all opened up in the bag, so I think he'll be fine shortly. I also scaped the tank (finally!), so you guys'll get to see that, too. I'm going to the beach tonight however (night tidepooling!), so it's possible he won't be opened before we leave. I'll be back sunday, so I'll definitely have some pics of him then, and hopefully some new fishy additions. biggrin.gif
dshnarw
QUOTE (Jamie @ Jan 9 2009, 06:42 PM) *
It's in the tank! The water it came in was 65 degrees, so I just temp acclimated like normal and plopped him in. He's a little po'd right now, but he was all opened up in the bag, so I think he'll be fine shortly. I also scaped the tank (finally!), so you guys'll get to see that, too. I'm going to the beach tonight however (night tidepooling!), so it's possible he won't be opened before we leave. I'll be back sunday, so I'll definitely have some pics of him then, and hopefully some new fishy additions. biggrin.gif



GET EXTRA NEMS AND SEND THEM TO ME!!!


NO...REALLY!! I PAY $$$ biggrin.gif
Kraylen
Awesome man! I cant wait to hit the pools
Jamie
QUOTE (dshnarw @ Jan 9 2009, 06:38 PM) *
GET EXTRA NEMS AND SEND THEM TO ME!!!


NO...REALLY!! I PAY $$$ biggrin.gif


OKAY!!!!

I wasn't planning on getting many, if any for myself, but if you want some wink.gif If I can convince my parents to drive me to barview, I might be able to get some metridiums too. They're intertidal there. cool.gif

QUOTE (Kraylen @ Jan 9 2009, 08:39 PM) *
Awesome man! I cant wait to hit the pools


Me too. Less than 24 hours! I haven't been in sooo long.
Kraylen
QUOTE (Jamie @ Jan 9 2009, 11:49 PM) *
OKAY!!!!

I wasn't planning on getting many, if any for myself, but if you want some wink.gif If I can convince my parents to drive me to barview, I might be able to get some metridiums too. They're intertidal there. cool.gif



Me too. Less than 24 hours! I haven't been in sooo long.



Hell yeah man, Ill be up in Oregon this summer.. might have to check out some of the pools there!
Jamie
DO it!

Meanwhile, while I'm waiting for the tide to go out, I found some awesome coldwater videos! See for yourself!

http://www.racerocks.com/racerock/archiveinvertebrates.htm
dshnarw
QUOTE (Jamie @ Jan 9 2009, 11:49 PM) *
OKAY!!!!

I wasn't planning on getting many, if any for myself, but if you want some wink.gif If I can convince my parents to drive me to barview, I might be able to get some metridiums too. They're intertidal there. cool.gif



!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

omgomgomg.gif

PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jamie
ahhhhhh! Tidepooling was amazing!!!!!!

I ended up going to this place called The Three Graces in Tillamook (google it) which is brackish, but the life there was amazing. Barview would have been nice, but it's a jetty with 13 foot swell breaking over it, which would be unpleasant in the dark.

Anyways, I found these two anemones, and I don't know what either of them are! Not in my book, or on the internets! Well, one could be Anthopleura artemesia, but I don't think so - it's still closed up, so I can't tell, I'll get back to you on that one. But the other one is amazing! It's about 2 inches wide, and, just looking at the oral disk, looks almost exactly like some sort of urticina. Shorter and more numerous tentacles though (I think). But then on the sides, it's striped , like Epiactis prolifera (but the stripes aren't white, more green). It's sooo cool. Overal is sort of a tan-orange green color (hard to tell) but the oral disk has fine maroon lines running around the tentacles. Exactly like U. grebelnyi. Gah! I can't wait to put it in my tank. The other anemone is closed, but superficially looks kind of like a metridium, but it's not squishy enough, and has this sort of blue grey color near the top. No verrucae (maybe). white-ish.

And then there's the fish! There were all kinds of gunnels everywhere! I brought back, like, five or six, so some of you guys might have to take a few off my hands. wink.gif One of them is enormous, 8 inches long maybe, but it's so beautiful. It's light tan-green, but then right behind it's head it has this deep green patch with intense red mottled throughout it. It's a very small area on the fish, but it looks tight! I also found this really cool dark grey-and-white sculpin. Me and my dad were investigating a crack in a big rock, about 4 feet above the water, and this sculpin was just sitting in there, no water or anything! So we scooped him out and he's now in a bucket with the gunnels.

The water was a toasty 47 degrees, it has now warmed up to 50 in my basement (which is probably around 55-60). I will get pics once everything is in the tank tomorrow, I'm so excited!

Daniel, there actually were metridiums there, but they were so tiny and fragile that it was impossible to get them off the rocks without squishing them. sad.gif I also kind of forgot to get more elegants, but I have plenty at home that you can have. smile.gif and you get a gunnel, too, if you like.

yay! so happy! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
jeremai
uh... PICHERS?!?!?
adinsxq
QUOTE (jeremai @ Jan 10 2009, 11:16 PM) *
uh... PICHERS?!?!?
xbwolfx
QUOTE (adinsxq @ Jan 11 2009, 02:24 AM) *
QUOTE (jeremai @ Jan 11 2009, 02:16 AM) *

uh... PICHERS?!?!?

mew
QUOTE (xbwolfx @ Jan 10 2009, 11:32 PM) *
QUOTE (adinsxq @ Jan 10 2009, 11:24 PM) *

QUOTE (jeremai @ Jan 10 2009, 11:16 PM) *

uh... PICHERS?!?!?

lgreen
QUOTE (mew @ Jan 11 2009, 12:39 AM) *
QUOTE (xbwolfx @ Jan 11 2009, 12:32 AM) *
QUOTE (adinsxq @ Jan 11 2009, 12:24 AM) *
QUOTE (jeremai @ Jan 11 2009, 12:16 AM) *

uh... PICHERS?!?!?
Jamie
Sorry guys, I don't have the thing that I plug my camera card into here at the beach, but I'll be going home today, so I'll be able to upload some this evening. smile.gif
Lalani
And they (Daniel) say I'm tough when bugging people for pictures, lol.



Waiting... smile.gif
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