junginit
May 23 2011, 11:53 AM
Thanks for the info! Good to keep in mind!
Pjanssen
May 23 2011, 06:15 PM
QUOTE (O-man21 @ Apr 23 2008, 10:22 AM)

Beautiful!
A local store suggested adding a stress syme or bio spiria when changing water. You didn't mention it. I just did a 20% water change and added the stress syme and actually ended up with higher nitrates than before I changed. Could the stres syme be the culprit.
StevieT
May 23 2011, 10:35 PM
Don't use any of that junk. If you are using RO water there is no point to start with. Junky freshwater products and bad advice IMO just to make a sale.
Nitrates can come from you stirring up junk during the water change.
Pjanssen
May 24 2011, 06:40 AM
QUOTE (StevieT @ May 23 2011, 11:35 PM)

Don't use any of that junk. If you are using RO water there is no point to start with. Junky freshwater products and bad advice IMO just to make a sale.
Nitrates can come from you stirring up junk during the water change.
Okay. Thanks
brandon429
May 25 2011, 02:51 PM
well written stuff so far, agreed I would never use bacterial supplements for water changes the bacteria are set in balance naturally and don't go away unless you use antibacterial products. they never need boosting during the life of the tank after they are established. No normal mistake you could make would kill them either> salinity issues won't kill them, pH issues won't kill them, they are the last thing to die in any reef tank.
google this: "nitrate in the reef aquarium by randy holmes farley" its the best nitrate workup Ive ever seen.
junginit
May 25 2011, 07:28 PM
Thanks for the tips...I didn't think about the extra heater to pre-heat the water. Good thing I read this post.
bjbass
Sep 1 2011, 12:11 PM
How do you know how much salt to put it in? I am going be needing to fill my BioCube 14 and I am going to use 5 gallon buckets of RO water. How much salt would I need in a 5 gallon bucket full of water?
clownfish14
Sep 1 2011, 01:04 PM
Depends on the salt. For the first time you kinda guess and mrasure with a refractometer. Then once you figure out about how much you need its easy.
1fishmonger
Sep 1 2011, 01:16 PM
I wonder how much money StevieT made off making this guide... #badmrcoral
BTW - You should make one for how to get rid of cyano

That's where the big money is. LOL
Great job st
seanathen
Sep 1 2011, 01:17 PM
Most of the salt packages will tell you how much salt to add and come with a measuring cup. That's usually a good starting point. It always seems like I have to add a little more though...
Rocket
Sep 1 2011, 01:20 PM
The standard measuring of salt is 1/2 cup per gallon of water. Start with that.
bjbass
Sep 2 2011, 09:26 AM
QUOTE (Rocket @ Sep 1 2011, 01:20 PM)

The standard measuring of salt is 1/2 cup per gallon of water. Start with that.
Ok, great! Thanks!
I am using the same salt as Stevie-T. Red Sea Coral Pro Salt. It comes in the mail today.
Does anybody have any experience with this brand and how much a gallon of RO would need? Somebody mentioned it depends on the brand.
Jrmiller
Sep 26 2011, 09:08 PM
awesome walk through
Nanny
Oct 1 2011, 08:47 AM
From a new bee stand point this guide rocks! Thanks for taking the time to write it up!!!
Lokko21
Dec 8 2011, 02:02 AM
Awesome guide, it help me a lot. THANKS.
dubmaneh
Jan 25 2012, 03:12 PM
Thanks for the great guide!!
One question though, can I store salt water that I have already made in a new "jerry can" bought at a local hardware store?
StevieT
Jan 25 2012, 03:16 PM
You can, but what do you mean by jerry can? Like a bucket?
If so yes, just keep it covered to avoid evaporation and always test it's salinity and heat it up with circulation before use.
dubmaneh
Jan 25 2012, 03:22 PM
QUOTE (StevieT @ Jan 25 2012, 03:16 PM)

You can, but what do you mean by jerry can? Like a bucket?
If so yes, just keep it covered to avoid evaporation and always test it's salinity and heat it up with circulation before use.
A red plastic gas can. It is new and never used for gas, but it is not food grade. Will it leach toxins into the water?
I will definately test paramaters and make sure it matches the tanks water before using. I only plan on keeping enough for 1 or two water changes on hand, so it would be kept for a week or two.
StevieT
Jan 25 2012, 04:28 PM
Can't answer if it is safe or not, don't know if they line those with any coating.
Would be easier just to make it in a bucket. I know it's easier to pour out of a can but you can't put a pump in it, you probably can fit the heater.
drewbold
Feb 1 2012, 02:43 PM
I just hook a tube to my water mixing pump and pump my new water into my tank so I dont have to worry about dumping in any until its down to like the last 1/4 inch of water.
Was wondering though, my nitrates are high and I want to do a 15g water change from my 29bc, so I need a larger container for my water because I only have 2 xtra pumps and 1 xtra heater. So my 5gal bucket isn't going to do the trick. Any cheap suggestions I could run out to pick up?
StevieT
Feb 1 2012, 02:56 PM
Rubbermade type container. storage area of a hardware store. I use something similar for my ATO reservoir
drewbold
Feb 1 2012, 02:59 PM
oh ya great idea, I think I actually have some big ones in my storage room from when I moved, things are huge though, probably 40-50gal but that should work as long as I rinse it with RO first right? Or should I just be safe and go buy a new one. Thanks for the quick reply.
~Andy
StevieT
Feb 1 2012, 03:05 PM
You make the call but if they were for dry storage just rinse them out.
I've moved my tank twice and both times I just go get a garbage can to make all the new water up in a head of time
trong
Mar 22 2012, 01:21 PM
Hello, I am new to this and I am in a cycle right now so I have yet to change the water. I was wondering do i really need a siphon or can i just scoop water out with a big jug or pitcher? is the a reason for the siphon?
Chrisl1976
Mar 22 2012, 01:34 PM
QUOTE (trong @ Mar 22 2012, 12:21 PM)

Hello, I am new to this and I am in a cycle right now so I have yet to change the water. I was wondering do i really need a siphon or can i just scoop water out with a big jug or pitcher? is the a reason for the siphon?
Just the way I do it.....
I went a got two plastic food storage bins from Walmart. 6 gallons each. I mix up my water 3-4 gallons the night before. Check to make sure salinity, PH, and temp of the mixed water all match the tank. Set the empty bin next to the full bin next to the empty one and use a pitcher (cut the top off a 1 liter water bottom) to fill it up to the same amount. Then dump the new water in through the sump on the back of the tank.
solefald
Mar 22 2012, 01:34 PM
QUOTE (trong @ Mar 22 2012, 10:21 AM)

Hello, I am new to this and I am in a cycle right now so I have yet to change the water. I was wondering do i really need a siphon or can i just scoop water out with a big jug or pitcher? is the a reason for the siphon?
you should be fine, but syphon is much easier and you wont be spilling/dripping water everywhere. plus syphon is good for vacuuming sand and sucking in crap that you have floating around or laying at the bottom.
StevieT
Mar 22 2012, 01:43 PM
You can remove it any way you want but a siphon is the easiest and cleanest way.
Chrisl1976
Mar 22 2012, 01:52 PM
QUOTE (StevieT @ Mar 22 2012, 12:43 PM)

You can remove it any way you want but a siphon is the easiest and cleanest way.
Just remember to pre-prime the hose or make sure you pay close attention to how hard you suck......Nothing like a mouth full of tank water.
trong
Mar 22 2012, 02:25 PM
Thanks guys, your advice is really appreciated. also I am in my 3 week now and I been getting brownish algae on my sand about a week ago. will this go away or do I need a good CUC? If I need CUC what do you recommend? It is a 15g column tank
Chrisl1976
Mar 22 2012, 02:28 PM
QUOTE (trong @ Mar 22 2012, 01:25 PM)

Thanks guys, your advice is really appreciated. also I am in my 3 week now and I been getting brownish algae on my sand about a week ago. will this go away or do I need a good CUC? If I need CUC what do you recommend? It is a 15g column tank
Go to ReefCleaner.org. They have express crew packs already designed for different size tank. Best price around, great service and you get a bunch of extra to cover die-off's during shipping. If you check around the posts, there seems to be very little die off so you get lots of bang for your buck!!!.
If you have different kinds of algae growing, send them a picture and they will design a crew just for your tank!!
Pipposanta
Apr 2 2012, 02:03 AM
I use the following method to change water. Never had a problem.
Remove the needed water using an 1/2 liter beer glass, really quick method.
Then I wash accurately the glass with tap water and I use it to pour the desired RO/DI water in a dedicated container where I mix the salt water. To find the correct quantity of salt, I initially used a simple balance now I know that I need to pour 3-4 tea spoons of salt every liter and then correct with RO/DI or more salt after reading the hydrometer.
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