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lol...i love that pic

That pic has made the day tolerable.

That is awesome!

That pic definitely sums up the week.

I really need to do a water change and some rearranging on my tanks, but my "spare" time keeps being consumed by stupid stuff for work.

It's been a pretty stressful week at work, but unlike most weeks I've managed to keep it shrunk down to 8 hour days and not had to take any home. That's a very welcome change from the norm.

Needed to copy this one more time.

Thanks Opy- I needed that.

Well, not that, but.. the pic...uh...nvmnd

Some good lulz here.

So I ran across this lady on craigslist who has puppies that are 1/2 Great Pyrenees, 1/4 Anatolian Shepherd and 1/4 German Shepherd.
At first I thought that sounded like an awesome combo, but then I did some more reading and discovered that Pyrs and Anatolian Shepherds can be barkers, strongly independant thinkers that can be resistant to training, and also sometimes need powerful fencing to keep them in.
Hmmm.
I do have a 6 foot privacy fence on all sides except a shared boundary with a neighbor that is chain link fence.
An interested dog would be able to get under the chainlink.
Anyone have personal experience with these breeds?

train them to attack liberals on sight.

ROTFLMAO

Doggie peeps, pls see my post near the bottom of previous page.
As for attacking, all 3 of those breeds are excellent guard dogs and I would actually need to give the dog really good exposure to a variety of ppl and other dogs when young so that it wouldn't be an overzealous guardian.
Sadly, I've wondered in recent months whether I might not need a guard type dog due to some circs with a brother in law.

Guard dogs aren't the way to go if you need protection. MJ can go into all the detail, but they're only a psychological threat. Easily dispatched. If you honestly feel threatened, I might go more the legal route.

I grew up with German Shepards and they love kids. Every single one we and my grandparents had allowed the babies of the family to play in their food bowls and would even allow them to take food out of their mouths, but would be willing to defend any family member in a heart beat. They also got along well with other dogs. I don't remember them being obsessive barkers but its been a few years since I lived with one that was an inside dog.

As for keeping them contained my grandparents shepard stayed put. Our male dog would chew through chain link fencing to get to our female when she was in heat. We only kept her penned up during that time because they were outside dogs and we didn't want her running off and getting knocked up by a strange dog.

With those breeds, they would be a genuine threat in this situation.
Anatolians and Pyrs have very strong guarding tendencies built into their genetic makeup.
He uses his body as a weapon, not a gun, and he does fear that type of dog.
In this particular situation, seeking legal help would be useless. Just not practical.

I've only had experience with GSDs. Fantastic dogs in every way. Dallas is part GSD and it shows.

Yeah, but you said he's been driving you a little nuts too trying to teach him manners and stuff.
What GSD traits does Dallas have?

The GSD isn't the part I'm concerned about, it's the Pyr and Anatolian, which is funny cause they were they reason I was originally interested in the puppies.
I did know some cool stuff about those breeds, I just didn't realize some of the negatives until this morning's reading.

Good Morning WL.

I has medicine head.

He is driving me nuts, but thats more puppy stuff than breed stuff.

He's very assertive, not quite dominant, but he's not timid at all. He's very smart, you can watch him observing things and learning, but then on the other hand like any GSD he's a little neurotic and some of the dumb things he does that he should know better by now because he's just too damn curious. Like trying to play with the cats that hate his guts. He's very independent 90% of the time, and that 10% when he does want you he's the sweetest huge lap dog you've ever seen.

The biggest negative GSD trait is that with the mediocre training he has he's not very good with boundaries. He doesn't fully understand that he can't just do whatever he feels like doing, but luckily he's a pretty good dog so "whatever he feels" isn't usually too unreasonable.

My collie growing up was also half GSD. That was the best dog ever, minus the shedding.

DH is correct that "guard dogs" are primarily psychological threats. A "guard dog" that is also a family pet is easily defeated by a ball of meat, a treat, or a person who isn't afraid of dogs. A "junkyard guard dog" is a step up, in that it isn't a dog that has been trained to be friendly toward people, but it is still easily defeated by a chunk of meat or a hard, swift kick. The only effective guard dogs are the police/military kind, that are trained to like only one person, and attack on demand. They are also roughed up a bit, so that they can take a beating and keep on attacking until commanded to stop. Not kid friendly, obviously.

Legal protection (I assume DH is referring to protection orders/restraining orders/or whatever your jurisdiction calls them) is a good route; however, they are limited in that they are only effective (1) if you see the person, call the cops, and the cops arrive before something happens and (2) to put them in jail for a longer period of time after the fact. Other than those two purposes, they are just a piece of paper. I don't know if you are in a castle doctrine state or not, but what I do is put secure locks on the house, and keep a firearm loaded and securely stored in the house.

he's also implementing a motion-sensor paintball gun deterrent.

Lol, yeah, I read about that.

I think my plans somehow managed to leave out the "paintball" part.

A mix of those breeds will be (most probably) a very independent, loving, and loyal dog. You must be able to display and emit the "alpha vibes" consistently, which is hard for a lot of people. Consistent training from day one and socialization are very important, especially since you have little ones. The little ones will need to be involved in the training process and be taught the commands and how to properly enforce them. The high energy part of the various breeds is going to be a challenge. They need to have a job to do. Since you don't have a herd of cattle or a flock of sheep, I would look into getting into agility, or harness pull training work.

With an abuser, a dog is just a psychological deterrent. If a person is willing to use their fists and other body parts are a weapon, then after being thwarted a few times, they will go for a more final weapon. I would look into taking gun safety training courses (that includes the little ones), find out what the local laws are regarding gun possession (especially the self defense clauses. Here I can shoot any animal that poses a threat to me and mine that is on my property. If it is a human, they must have entered my home with a weapon with lethal intent for me to be able to shoot them legally.), find about the permits required for carry and carry concealed weapons, child safety trigger locks, and of course lots of time at a firing range. I have met many women who have guns and the permits to carry who do not know how to fire them. That is a recipe for disaster as that provides an easy weapon for an attacker, with fatal consequences usually.

Even though restraining orders are not much good in and of themselves, they are very helpful in proving that the individual is a consistent threat should it ever become necessary to take action to protect you and yours. Having a guard dog that will attack an aggressor is a part of that is they end up having to bite an attacker. Elsewise the dog is just put down as an aggressive biter.

I grew up around guns and other weapons, so I do not have a fear of kids being around them. If I hadn't been taught to respect the weapon, understand what it is capable of doing, then I probably would. Pretty much all of the idiots who have guns that kids and teens end up getting a hold of and accidentally shooting someone with, have absolutely no idea of how to properly use and respect a weapon. As much as I hated the sound, smell, and bruises left behind from Dad teaching me to shoot rifles, muzzelloaders, and even the hand guns, I am glad that I can shoot if in a situation where it is necessary to do so.

My favorite weapon is still a bow or a blade, but guns have their place and purpose.

I the idea of MSPGD's and think all houses should be required by Obama edict to have them. (motion-sensor paintball gun deterrent)

Thanks star.
I question my own ability to constantly emit "alpha vibes", so I dunno.
I suspect you're right in your analysis though.

I think that would be one of the few things Obama would not be willing to mandate by edict. After all, it has the word "gun" in it.

someone post that vid i posted in MJs thread. it's worth watching.

What, you forgot how to do that?

nah weets i'm at work and dont want to get fired.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxBa5bQfTGc



He forgot to mention that white people owning one of these is un-American and un-patriotic.

What if I dont technically own it?

That would be even better in his eyes. After all, you "owning" it would mean that you purchased it, which means that some evil corporation made a profit. He would prefer that you acquire one from the government, or if you are one of those pesky self-reliant types, make one yourself.

That is now my next DIY project .

Elizabeth is struggling with this with Dallas. That's another thing thats driving me nuts with him is he'll listen to me and then not her, I don't know that that is a breed thing though, Abby is the most timid well behaved dog I've ever seen and sometimes Elizabeth has to tell her to do things twice that she does instantly for me.

Oh I can emit them.
I have 2 young children, I have to be able to emit them, and I've got the "Mom" look down cold.
It's emitting them 100% of the time that I struggle with.
I have bad days sometimes, y'know?
I don't have a hard time getting Finn to listen, but he's also a submissive dog by nature and that makes a difference.

That's Abby. She is completely miserable if you're even the slightest bit upset with her.

I wish I had a pet that listened to me. My cat just flips me off and resumes wreaking havoc and ambushing everyone.

Cats are like that though. I wish I had a place where I could get a dog, the current home owners association only allows for LSD's...

LSD's?

and not all cats. I have had cats that follow directions quite well. Exceptions to the rule, but just sayin.

My 14 year old cat listens pretty well. The 4 year old, not so much.

Little #### Dog

profanity filter? eh, S-word

I see. The reason I will never live in a place where someone else gets to tell me what I am allowed to do on or with property that I own.

I don't own the property. I own the building... Selling it to move to Albany in the coming months however. Unless this new job works out as well as the last new job...

Gizmo is offended by that description.

<insert pic of gizmo looking annoyed>

Stupid photobucket is blocked here at work

I actually saw a miniature pincer/beagle the other day at the humane society that was a really great dog. I considered going back to adopt her but I have enough on my plate right now that it would be cruel to own a dog.

My cat is pretty well behaved. Not only does she do what she's supposed to when I'm around, but she also does it when I'm not. I have thing for not having animals on tables or counter tops. I've only seen her try a table once or twice, and when I leave things out on the table, including some of her toys, they stay exactly where I leave them. She hates most people though. She likes me, my gf, and one of my friends, and is indifferent toward or hates pretty much everyone else.

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the worst^