Rehype
Sep 19 2007, 07:57 AM
QUOTE(Rodney013 @ Sep 19 2007, 08:31 AM)

Hello Cadies,
Just wondering what CAD owners would be interested in exchanging yahoo or msn IM id's?
Rehype02@yahoo.com
Rodney013
Sep 19 2007, 08:35 AM
QUOTE(Rehype @ Sep 19 2007, 07:57 AM)

Rehype02@yahoo.com

CAD34G@yahoo.com
sccrcoach
Sep 20 2007, 11:25 AM
I have a 34G sig series, having trouble nmaking bubbles for my skimmer, any help would be appreciated
Jeff
Rodney013
Sep 20 2007, 11:54 AM
QUOTE(sccrcoach @ Sep 20 2007, 11:25 AM)

I have a 34G sig series, having trouble nmaking bubbles for my skimmer, any help would be appreciated
Jeff
I just set my 34G up last weekend and had skimmer issues as well. A couple of problems I had were as follows:
Be sure the control valve is fully open.
Return line(black flexible hose) allowed too many bubbles to be trapped and caused a vapor lock. This caused the cup to overflow. I had to change to a simple vinyl hose. If you adjust your control valve and it is making no difference in the water level within the skimmer you may be having the same problem I did.
Also had to raise my skimmer up about 2-3 inches from the bottom to be able to control the flow.
Finally after about 5 days of running I was able to get everything under control.
Hope this helps.
donreefer
Sep 20 2007, 12:25 PM
i had the bubble issue too when i first set it up. i left the valve opened all the way for the first 2 days (lots of micro-bubles) then when the pressure stablized, i turned the valve slightly raising the water 1/2" ata time until the water level stayed constant at 1/2 way on the collection cup (that took about a day to adjust). i had micro bubbles for about 2 days after that, but you have to leave it alone and not adjust the valve. then the micro bubbles just miraculously diappeared!
i get about 1/3 a cup of PURE protein (Crap) once every 2 weeks. but its a great skimmer though, just gotta give it time.
sometimes when i mess up the pressure, i find it easier to just shut the whole thing down and re-pressurize it from the beginning.
Rehype
Sep 20 2007, 03:02 PM
Updated FTS
ReefInChicago
Sep 20 2007, 03:11 PM
hi, all,
i've got a 25g setup that i started in april. here's an fts (sorry for those of you that already saw this in the member's aquarium forum):

there are three things i've had as issues:
1. the curved front makes it REALLY hard to clean.
2. if the tank level's fairly up to the top, the tank rim is really hard to clean.
3. no top. the glass cover i got with the order broke within 25 minutes of turning on the light. the replacement the finally sent me in july doesn't fit the 25.
other than that, i really like the tank, and it seems to be going well so far.
Rehype
Sep 20 2007, 03:19 PM
I just bought the nimble nano cleaner. That thing does a great job at cleaning the curve of the bowfront.Very nice tank
NoValidTitle
Sep 20 2007, 03:21 PM
QUOTE(Rehype @ Sep 20 2007, 04:02 PM)

Updated FTS
Looking good, coming along nicely.
Rehype
Sep 20 2007, 05:37 PM
QUOTE(NoValidTitle @ Sep 20 2007, 04:21 PM)

Looking good, coming along nicely.
Thanks alot
Phixion
Sep 20 2007, 05:41 PM
Looks good both Rehype and ReeferChicago.

Definitely get a magnet cleaner if you can (the Nimble I'd highly recommend) as it'll make cleaning the curved fron a breeze. I have the "super" model and it'll even go around the corners of my Finnex with NO problems!
Kellie in CA
Sep 20 2007, 05:49 PM
After much frusteration, my tank is finally up and running. YAY!!!
Phixion
Sep 20 2007, 06:18 PM
PICS soon Kellie!!
Rehype
Sep 20 2007, 06:27 PM
QUOTE(Phixion @ Sep 20 2007, 06:41 PM)

Looks good both Rehype and ReeferChicago.

Definitely get a magnet cleaner if you can (the Nimble I'd highly recommend) as it'll make cleaning the curved fron a breeze. I have the "super" model and it'll even go around the corners of my Finnex with NO problems!

Thanks phix. Yea that super model does wonders and fits everywhere. Id say its a nano must buy.Get some pics on here soon kellie!! Cant wait to see it.
ReefInChicago
Sep 21 2007, 10:18 AM
QUOTE(Rehype @ Sep 20 2007, 06:27 PM)

Thanks phix. Yea that super model does wonders and fits everywhere. Id say its a nano must buy.Get some pics on here soon kellie!! Cant wait to see it.
yes. well.
i'm feeling like i'm in between two generations here.
i'm too young to go get a money order.
i'm too old to have a paypal account.
i'll assume that since there seems to be demand for this product that either credit cards will soon be accepted or that someone else will take this opportunity and make a product like this available in stores or through secure credit cards. it looks like a great idea, and i'll buy one as soon as i can. 'til cards are accepted, i'll just have to struggle.
ah, capitalism.
Kellie in CA
Sep 21 2007, 01:20 PM
Alright guys, I will work on getting some pics up this weekend. All that is in there right now is water & sand. I am going on a live rock hunt on Saturday!

I have to say, I am blown away by the amount of lighting on this tank. This is my first MH tank, the shimmer effect is awesome!
The only trouble I am having at the moment is keeping the oscillator on the return. It seems to keep put for a day or so, but I always find it laying in the sand. Any suggestions?
Rehype
Sep 21 2007, 01:21 PM
QUOTE(Kellie in CA @ Sep 21 2007, 02:20 PM)

Alright guys, I will work on getting some pics up this weekend. All that is in there right now is water & sand. I am going on a live rock hunt on Saturday!

I have to say, I am blown away by the amount of lighting on this tank. This is my first MH tank, the shimmer effect is awesome!
The only trouble I am having at the moment is keeping the oscillator on the return. It seems to keep put for a day or so, but I always find it laying in the sand. Any suggestions?
i took mines off it was getting in the way of my aquascaping
Phixion
Sep 21 2007, 02:40 PM
Kellie, either superglue (which I used the Hydor on my Finnex before getting a Y-locline) or teflon tape. Good luck!!
Kellie in CA
Sep 21 2007, 03:15 PM
I think I will try the glue method. Thanks!
The oscillator seems to get the water moving pretty good, but it kicks up so much sand. I hate seeing a big hole to the bottom glass.
donreefer
Sep 21 2007, 03:23 PM
a little bit of silicone should do it Kellie. i like the Teflon tape though because it wont be as permenant as the glue.
My-eel-bit-me
Sep 21 2007, 07:15 PM
I will be filling up my 34g CAD lights signature series today!! I already got my 40 pounds of Uaniva and some tonga deepwater branch brewing in my curing tub. I actaully kind of like the stand. Had a couple issues to start, but Eddie solved them and then some. Top notch customer service to say the least. Just mixing some tropic marin reef pro as we speak. Will try to get some pictures up this weekend.
Would it be ok to use some of the uncured rock in the refugium right away? I have no livestock so it really shouldnt matter right?
Also, where do I want the water level in the skimmer? Havent been collecting much gunk in my curing tub. Can anyone give me more insight on what to do with the skimmer setup? Thanks.
Rodney013
Sep 21 2007, 09:07 PM
QUOTE(My-eel-bit-me @ Sep 21 2007, 07:15 PM)

I will be filling up my 34g CAD lights signature series today!! I already got my 40 pounds of Uaniva and some tonga deepwater branch brewing in my curing tub. I actaully kind of like the stand. Had a couple issues to start, but Eddie solved them and then some. Top notch customer service to say the least. Just mixing some tropic marin reef pro as we speak. Will try to get some pictures up this weekend.
Would it be ok to use some of the uncured rock in the refugium right away? I have no livestock so it really shouldnt matter right?
Also, where do I want the water level in the skimmer? Havent been collecting much gunk in my curing tub. Can anyone give me more insight on what to do with the skimmer setup? Thanks.
I just set my 34G up last weekend and had skimmer issues as well. A couple of problems I had were as follows:
Be sure the control valve is fully open.
Return line(black flexible hose) allowed too many bubbles to be trapped and caused a vapor lock. This caused the cup to overflow. I had to change to a simple vinyl hose. If you adjust your control valve and it is making no difference in the water level within the skimmer you may be having the same problem I did.
Also had to raise my skimmer up about 2-3 inches from the bottom to be able to control the flow.
Finally after about 5 days of running I was able to get everything under control.
Hope this helps.
supreme_spork
Sep 21 2007, 09:27 PM
QUOTE(Rodney013 @ Sep 21 2007, 07:07 PM)

I just set my 34G up last weekend and had skimmer issues as well. A couple of problems I had were as follows:
Be sure the control valve is fully open.
Return line(black flexible hose) allowed too many bubbles to be trapped and caused a vapor lock. This caused the cup to overflow. I had to change to a simple vinyl hose. If you adjust your control valve and it is making no difference in the water level within the skimmer you may be having the same problem I did.
Also had to raise my skimmer up about 2-3 inches from the bottom to be able to control the flow.
Finally after about 5 days of running I was able to get everything under control.
Hope this helps.
I'm in the process of setting mine up
this weekend!
I had exactly the same issues with the return hose on the skimmer and replaced it with simple tubing... that fixed everything. Most skimmers are sensitive to back pressure on the return, so you don't want anything that might impede the flow out other than the flow valve (even something minor like a corrugated hose). I also have my skimmer sitting up a few inches.
Live rock comes tomorrow whoo hoo!
Rodney013
Sep 21 2007, 09:33 PM
QUOTE(supreme_spork @ Sep 21 2007, 09:27 PM)

I'm in the process of setting mine up
this weekend!
I had exactly the same issues with the return hose on the skimmer and replaced it with simple tubing... that fixed everything. Most skimmers are sensitive to back pressure on the return, so you don't want anything that might impede the flow out other than the flow valve (even something minor like a corrugated hose). I also have my skimmer sitting up a few inches.
Live rock comes tomorrow whoo hoo!
This forum sure is help isn't it!
I love my tank and cannot recommend enough a Reefkeeper 2. It is expensive but well worth it.
Best of luck with your setup and please post some pics so we can all keep up with each others progress.
Rehype
Sep 21 2007, 09:40 PM
QUOTE(Rodney013 @ Sep 21 2007, 10:07 PM)

I just set my 34G up last weekend and had skimmer issues as well. A couple of problems I had were as follows:
Be sure the control valve is fully open.
Return line(black flexible hose) allowed too many bubbles to be trapped and caused a vapor lock. This caused the cup to overflow. I had to change to a simple vinyl hose. If you adjust your control valve and it is making no difference in the water level within the skimmer you may be having the same problem I did.
Also had to raise my skimmer up about 2-3 inches from the bottom to be able to control the flow.
Finally after about 5 days of running I was able to get everything under control.
Hope this helps.
Have you had any issues with microbubbles? I didnt at first but now i do. For the last few weeks i havent been running it at all. Not a big deal..i dont mind going skimmerless since i do enough water changes and run an additional fuge water quality is great. But i was just wondering in case i desire to run it again.
Rodney013
Sep 21 2007, 09:48 PM
QUOTE(Rehype @ Sep 21 2007, 09:40 PM)

Have you had any issues with microbubbles? I didnt at first but now i do. For the last few weeks i havent been running it at all. Not a big deal..i dont mind going skimmerless since i do enough water changes and run an additional fuge water quality is great. But i was just wondering in case i desire to run it again.
Not really any big problems with microbubbles to this point but only up and running for 6 days now.
supreme_spork
Sep 21 2007, 10:09 PM
QUOTE(Rehype @ Sep 21 2007, 07:40 PM)

Have you had any issues with microbubbles? I didnt at first but now i do. For the last few weeks i havent been running it at all. Not a big deal..i dont mind going skimmerless since i do enough water changes and run an additional fuge water quality is great. But i was just wondering in case i desire to run it again.
There are a few things you can try -- the trick is to have as much opportunity as possible for the bubbles to disperse before they enter the main tank intake in the last chamber, so where you have your skimmer return emptying makes a difference (e.g., don't have the skimmer return directly to either the last chamber or the one right next to it.
Also, I'm floating a sponge directly under the skimmer return -- sponges (or filter pads) do a great job at breaking up the bubbles if the water from the return passes over/through them. They'll also give a little extra mechanical filtration for debris.
Finally, if you have one of the chambers between the main tank pump and the skimmer return filled with chaeto/filter bags/rubble/etc., that will usually slow the flow down sufficiently to allow most of the bubbles to disperse before they get into the display.
It's all about how many bubble-dissolving roadblocks you can throw at the water between the time it exits the skimmer return and the time it gets to the pump.
Rodney013
Sep 21 2007, 10:12 PM
QUOTE(supreme_spork @ Sep 21 2007, 10:09 PM)

There are a few things you can try -- the trick is to have as much opportunity as possible for the bubbles to disperse before they enter the main tank intake in the last chamber, so where you have your skimmer return emptying makes a difference (e.g., don't have the skimmer return directly to either the last chamber or the one right next to it.
Also, I'm floating a sponge directly under the skimmer return -- sponges (or filter pads) do a great job at breaking up the bubbles if the water from the return passes over/through them. They'll also give a little extra mechanical filtration for debris.
Finally, if you have one of the chambers between the main tank pump and the skimmer return filled with chaeto/filter bags/rubble/etc., that will usually slow the flow down sufficiently to allow most of the bubbles to disperse before they get into the display.
It's all about how many bubble-dissolving roadblocks you can throw at the water between the time it exits the skimmer return and the time it gets to the pump.

Good point, my skimmer is in chamber 2 and chamber 3 has cheato and a purapad before it the water enters the final chamber with the return pump.
supreme_spork
Sep 21 2007, 10:13 PM
QUOTE(Rodney013 @ Sep 21 2007, 07:33 PM)

This forum sure is help isn't it!
I love my tank and cannot recommend enough a Reefkeeper 2. It is expensive but well worth it.
Best of luck with your setup and please post some pics so we can all keep up with each others progress.
Thanks, and back atcha'!
Oh yeah, a Reefkeeper 2 is next on my list... I started my ridiculously expensive extra purchases off with a mini artica chiller instead, which has definitely come in handy even during the last 48 hours as I've been prepping for the rock.
I'll include some pics as soon as the rock gets in there... since right now it looks *exactly* the same as yours did before you got your rock in there.
Rodney013
Sep 21 2007, 10:16 PM
QUOTE(supreme_spork @ Sep 21 2007, 10:13 PM)

Thanks, and back atcha'!
Oh yeah, a Reefkeeper 2 is next on my list... I started my ridiculously expensive extra purchases off with a mini artica chiller instead, which has definitely come in handy even during the last 48 hours as I've been prepping for the rock.
I'll include some pics as soon as the rock gets in there... since right now it looks *exactly* the same as yours did before you got your rock in there.

I am hoping to be able to avoid the expense of a chiller. My tank is at work and it stays cool 24/7.
Were did you order your LR from?
supreme_spork
Sep 21 2007, 10:28 PM
I've ordered most of my stuff so far from Premium Aquatics... I have 25 pounds of Kaelini and 10 pounds of their "nano rock" coming. I've always had good luck with them in the past, and I was able to give them my tank dimensions and talk to a rep about what I was looking for.
I'm psyched to get the rock in there and start waiting and watching.
I got the chiller mostly because it helps reduce evaporation. And maybe a little bit because I like tubes and wires.
VDub90
Sep 21 2007, 10:30 PM
I would like to show pics of my tank, but alas it's still not up and running. I have had the tank, sort of, since Decemeber of 2006 and it's not complete yet.
supreme_spork
Sep 21 2007, 10:41 PM
QUOTE(VDub90 @ Sep 21 2007, 08:30 PM)

I would like to show pics of my tank, but alas it's still not up and running. I have had the tank, sort of, since Decemeber of 2006 and it's not complete yet.
And i thought I moved slowly!
VDub90
Sep 21 2007, 10:42 PM
Ohhhhh it's not me moving slowly. It was UPS and now it's Cadlights themselves, lol.
Rehype
Sep 21 2007, 10:49 PM
QUOTE(supreme_spork @ Sep 21 2007, 11:09 PM)

There are a few things you can try -- the trick is to have as much opportunity as possible for the bubbles to disperse before they enter the main tank intake in the last chamber, so where you have your skimmer return emptying makes a difference (e.g., don't have the skimmer return directly to either the last chamber or the one right next to it.
Also, I'm floating a sponge directly under the skimmer return -- sponges (or filter pads) do a great job at breaking up the bubbles if the water from the return passes over/through them. They'll also give a little extra mechanical filtration for debris.
Finally, if you have one of the chambers between the main tank pump and the skimmer return filled with chaeto/filter bags/rubble/etc., that will usually slow the flow down sufficiently to allow most of the bubbles to disperse before they get into the display.
It's all about how many bubble-dissolving roadblocks you can throw at the water between the time it exits the skimmer return and the time it gets to the pump.

Thanks for the info ill give it a try the next time i attempt to run it.
My-eel-bit-me
Sep 21 2007, 11:26 PM
Umm how much water were you guys able to put in your 34g tank? I put in 21g with no rock, equipment, or sand in it and it is filled to the top. The bank chambers are half way filled too. I dont see any way I could fit another 14g in here. There is no way this could hold 34g at its max. I am so confused. I know rock, sand, and equipment will eventually take up space, but it seems like this isnt an actual 34g tank. Some one please help explain this to me.
NoValidTitle
Sep 22 2007, 12:16 AM
lawl wrong thread
supreme_spork
Sep 22 2007, 02:46 AM
QUOTE(My-eel-bit-me @ Sep 21 2007, 09:26 PM)

Umm how much water were you guys able to put in your 34g tank? I put in 21g with no rock, equipment, or sand in it and it is filled to the top. The bank chambers are half way filled too. I dont see any way I could fit another 14g in here. There is no way this could hold 34g at its max. I am so confused. I know rock, sand, and equipment will eventually take up space, but it seems like this isnt an actual 34g tank. Some one please help explain this to me.
multiply your tank's WxLxH and then multiply the total by 0.00433 (to convert from cubic inches to gallons), and then subtract about 2 from the total for wall thickness. for my tank -- the 34g -- that's 24x18.5x18.5x.00433 = 35.6, minus about 2 for walls and you get just under 34. if i recall the number of trips i made with my 5 gallon bucket it wasn't quite 30 gallons worth with all of the stuff in there and with a few more gallons to reach the aquarium lip.
are you sure you didn't end-up with the 25? it has almost the same dimensions except it's 14H instead of 18.5....
My-eel-bit-me
Sep 22 2007, 03:07 AM
I just measured and the dimensions are 23.5 X 17.75 X 17.75. CAD lights says they are 23.5 X 18.5 X 18.25.
supreme_spork
Sep 22 2007, 03:25 AM
QUOTE(My-eel-bit-me @ Sep 22 2007, 01:07 AM)

I just measured and the dimensions are 23.5 X 17.75 X 17.75. CAD lights says they are 23.5 X 18.5 X 18.25.

I just measured and that's about what mine is (my quote above was just from memory

) -- make sure you measure depth from the widest part of the bow, though -- you can subtract probably 1/2 gallon for the curve.
So, when all is said and done, it looks like it's not quite 34g... that said, you should still be able to get a lot more than 21 gallons in there!
ReefInChicago
Sep 22 2007, 07:53 AM
QUOTE(My-eel-bit-me @ Sep 22 2007, 03:07 AM)

I just measured and the dimensions are 23.5 X 17.75 X 17.75. CAD lights says they are 23.5 X 18.5 X 18.25.

as i recall, i got abt 21-22 gallons into the totally empty 25. i've gotten to the point where i do the initial salt mix in the bare aquarium, so i have to measure gallon by gallon, then add 1/2 cup salt per, so i'm pretty sure of the count.
fwiw, responding to a couple other posts, i've gotten all my lr from premium aquatics, and it' been great.
i've got the skimmer return into chamber 2, which is full of ls, lr, chaeto and other various algae. no bubbles. then again, i'm not using a stock skimmer since the 25 didn't come with one. i've got a remora nano in this tank.
Kellie in CA
Sep 22 2007, 12:49 PM
Hey guys! This is the first time I have run a refugium. Once the the tank cycles, I am going to get some chaeto, but what should I put on the bottom of the chamber (#2)? Live rock? Sand? Sand seems logical, but I am worried about it traveling and getting sucked up into the filter.
I have chamber 1 (overflow) filled with rock rubble, and chamber 3 has the heater and pump. Any suggestions?
supreme_spork
Sep 22 2007, 01:07 PM
QUOTE(Kellie in CA @ Sep 22 2007, 10:49 AM)

Hey guys! This is the first time I have run a refugium. Once the the tank cycles, I am going to get some chaeto, but what should I put on the bottom of the chamber (#2)? Live rock? Sand? Sand seems logical, but I am worried about it traveling and getting sucked up into the filter.
I have chamber 1 (overflow) filled with rock rubble, and chamber 3 has the heater and pump. Any suggestions?
I'm not a huge fan of stuff in the back that makes cleaning difficult, so I'd stay away from adding too much rock/sand/mud back there... a year down the road after a few million gallons of tank water (and gunk) have circulated through it'll just end-up being a big mess. Unlike a separate fuge, it's hard to deep clean the back chambers of small all-in-one tanks once everything is established.
If you don't already have the rock rubble in your overflow inside its own filter bag, that might be something to consider -- that way you can just lift the bag out of the chamber and suck up the gunk on the bottom when you clean. Way easier than trying to get a siphon around the rock pieces IMO. My rule-of-thumb is that anything going in the back chamber needs to be relatively easy to remove for cleaning and needs to have a measurable impact on the tank -- I'm not convinced that a few more ounces of sand back there is worth the hassle.

That's just me though -- I'm sure plenty of people aren't as hxc as I am about keeping things modular and easily removable.
Kellie in CA
Sep 22 2007, 01:20 PM
Ahhhhh....very good point!
Phixion
Sep 22 2007, 04:17 PM
Kellie, when you need chaeto I have some you can have. Mine is growing in my fuge like wildfire.
That sucks the tanks aren't a true 34g... =/
Kellie in CA
Sep 22 2007, 10:22 PM
QUOTE(Phixion @ Sep 22 2007, 02:17 PM)

Kellie, when you need chaeto I have some you can have. Mine is growing in my fuge like wildfire.
That sucks the tanks aren't a true 34g... =/
Thanks so much, I will take you up on that! I was just asking my LFS today what they charge and they said $20 a cup. Woah!!!
DropDesigns
Sep 24 2007, 10:51 AM
I have about 25-30 LBS. of LR and 20 LBS. of LS and it took around 22 gallons to fill the tank to what I believe is a decent level. I would guess that with out the rock, sand, filter media, pump, glass baffels, the number would be closer to 30 gallons of water.
Phixion
Sep 24 2007, 12:47 PM
QUOTE(Kellie in CA @ Sep 22 2007, 08:22 PM)

Thanks so much, I will take you up on that! I was just asking my LFS today what they charge and they said $20 a cup. Woah!!!
That's rediculous, it's worth no more than a gallon of water really. A local coral farmer (that charges exorborantly rediculous prices for rare zoas and SPS) gave me a handful for free and that handful is what overtook my entire fuge in just a few months. It's very much pod infested which is a nice bonus.

But just let me know when you're ready for it and I'll give you a handful.
Kellie in CA
Sep 24 2007, 01:33 PM
Thanks so much Phixion! I just started cycling, so it will be probably be a few weeks before I hit you up for it!

I wish I could get some pics up, but I lent my camera to my parents and they will be on vacation for a few weeks. I've got 5 lbs of really porous rubble in chamber #1, and 28 lbs of Live Rock and 20 lbs of Live Sand in the tank. I kinda splurged on the rock, paying $5 a pound. But, the shapes were so cool, I couldn't resist. I got it from OceanPro (online retailer) in Chino which is just about 10 min from my house. I like going there because they will let you go through all of their stock and cherry-pick the pieces that you want. They had some decent Figi for $1.99/lb, but the Tukani Ultra really caught my eye. I was looking for something a little unique. For anyone who is local to So Cal, I really recommend going there. They have tons of different kinds of rock, lots of stuff that you will never find in a LFS.
www.oceanproaquatics.com
Now the waiting begins.....
Phixion
Sep 24 2007, 03:55 PM
Note taken on OceanPro. Even $5/lbs. for rock isn't that bad. I'd rather spend more on that which won't go bad, then that much on fish which are far more sensative. I paid $103 originally for the 15lbs. of rock I had in my old AP12. I got the rock in my Finnex 30g from Pacific Reef in Torrance and had 0 downtime with it as it was 100% cured and cycled when I put it in directly from the store.

Always worth the price too when you can hand pick the rock yourself!
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