Mac, I dont think that stand is going to hold it. J/K

wana bet J/K

Please don't take this the offensivly but how much are you guys spending on you 40br i'm going to end up spending $4500 good by odd job money (that i have been saving up my entire life)

-Mac

I've probably spent about $1500 on mine.

I have spent around $1500-$2000 on mine. If I had $4500 to spend, I wouldn't be doing a 40 gallon. You could set up a nice 180 gallon for that much.

I was just thinking the same thing. How do you spend $4500 setting up a 40g tank? Even if you bought 80 lbs. of LR for $10 a lbs., and bought a solaris, and a really nice skimmer and return pump.........well I guess it's possible!!

I would like to think that I used pretty good stuff. Not the most expensive, but not cheap by any means. But wow, I cant wait to see this super tank!

Ya well i have devorsed parents(also i go to Hawaii every year 1-2 times a year and in the summer i go to summer school not becuse of grades i get As abd Bs) which leads me to having to get a neptune aquacontroler 3
i also want to have 2x 250w MH w/T-5 atinics, calcium reactor, 2 tuzen nano streams, double float auto top off, wave maker for the tuzens, RO/Di system, AquaC Ev skimmer, live rock, R2 light, etc(i need to find my list....its about 3 pages long)

Oops i forgot i also added in the prise for my soft coral frag tank so its more like $4100

-Mac

Mac , If your going to buy all that high end equipment , you really need to rethink your tank size , don't get me wrong but with that much cash you should be looking at setting up a 150-220 gallon tank . You can have an excellent 40 breeder with out spending anywhere near that much .

Well the only big problem is devorsed parents and going on 2 month trips to see family makes me need to do somthing like that....so if i cound keep every thing how many gallon tank do you think i cound have ?
BTW-the stand cost like $300 are there an threads on how to make a stand that can support that kind of mass im kind of worryed about the tank stand sudenly giving way + homework takes up way to much time

-Mac

Oh God i messed up again...i also forgot to take out the cost of livestock ...dry goods $3500

-Mac

I bought the cheap stuff, some of it used at that!!! My fish and corals don't seem to know the difference, I think they may be illiterate!! They can't even read the brand names.

I bought my pumps used. I think that is all though. Having all of the stuff to transfer over from my old tank helped a lot though.

$3500 starting livestock???
What are you getting? A humpack whale?

Jesus, that's a lot of money, young man.
With that amount of money to spend, why not get yourself a bigger tank? A person who's as loaded as you would definitely feel cramped by a 'mere' 40g. You'd just keep on buying and buying and buying. After all, nothing can stop you since you have loads of cash.

Here are my humble beginnings...

http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=132377

Here is my 40br with a 40br sump

does anyone know if the new aqueon 40BR's are tempered on the bottom?

EDIT- Oh yay thats equpment price sorry) well im trying to keep the price in that range thats pritty much all the money i have be able to rase (i have saved up money ever since i was 5 of course not for a tank....but its still all there ) oh ya and $500 for live stock is becuse im precalculating my cost in the long run...

-Mac

-Edit one more thing so i dont sound like some kind of richy rich i have had to earn all this money on my own and i also saved up christmas money b-day money etc.

Nice Tank I love the shimmer right in the center. Whats that light?

1+

mines coming along... pics as soon as I get a new camera for Christmas (fingers crossed!)

That's mine. I will probably transfer it all to a 120 right after new year's

I coulda swore I posted mine several pages back.

Tank: 40B + 15G refugium with DSB and LR
Light: 2 by 75 VHO actinics, 1 by 150 watt MH phoenix 14k
Fish/inverts: Yellow Coris Wrasse, Yasha Haze and pistol shrimp pair, Flamed Angel, Tomato clown
Corals: assorted of zoas, Green Sinularis, green acro, assorted rics and yumas, large green ployp, white pipeorgan, Clam, sun coral.


Older pic, now the Rose Bubble tip is sold for mis behaving.
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p211/ti...reeder/Tank.jpg

beautiful... that RBTA is gorgeous. I want to get one so bad. Did you ever have any problems with the Angel nipping at the clam mantle?

This is my 40 gallon breeder SPS reef aquariumClick to view attachment

Beautiful Tank cjl. Do you have a thread of it to see more pics?

No issues with the Flamed angel picking at that, but it did kill my purple gorgonia by picking at it.

Had to get rod of the RBTA, it split to 3 and was killing my corals by moving around and inflating.

This is a side view20 gallon sumpHuge skimmerCA reactor1 250W hamilton and 1 175W Phosban W/reactorClick to view attachmentsome coral

The tank info: 2 brand new 40 breeders with (2) 3/4" returns each and each has a custom over flow with (2) 1" drains.
These pictures were taken over the corse of around 3 months of work.

Overflow shot

Getting ready for paint.

here some more picsTek 36inch light t5ho frag tank lighting.



Got the new dart pump earlier in the week.

Almost done with the stand here are some progression shots.

Stand Done!

The plumbing is mostly done and dry fitted.






Reef tank lighting pics, new reflectors and sockets.

SIIIIICK!

I love the dual breeders and NICE plubming!

more pics of the over flow, how it works ect,

It's basically a Calfo style (coast to coast) overflow using a 1" horizontal PVC pipe with a slit cut down the length of it. This allows for maximum surface skimming compared to traditional boxes and also eliminates the need for teeth which obstruct surface skimming. So far I really like it, hopefully the pictures above show just how efficient the design really is. Almost the entire surface is skimmed while conserving a lot of real estate. You can't even see it from front on, it's the next best thing to an external coast to coast overflow!

Here's a shot of the setup, took me less than an hour and standard PVC parts to build it, and I suck at DIY:




There were some really good ideas at the end of this thread - if you want to go for total silence. But I'm only running about 200gph through this and it's already very quiet.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthre...hreadid=1257783

BTW nice dual 40br setup, that's gonna be sweet

thanks urs us sick also with that overflow.

Ok i am planning on 2 SE 250 Mh on one of the 40's what do you guys think its going to be about 90% SPS.
What are your thoughts?

I think you didn't give us enough info!!!
What bulbs you plan on using?
Any Actinic Sups? Wattages if yes.
What sort of light cycle are you planning to run?
How do you plan to keep the temps in check etc.

A littl more info and then we can evaluate your idea!

-not sure on the bulbs yet i want nice growth and good color for sps.
-depending on bulb i may or may not need actinic.
-7 to 10 hr cycle didn't put much thought in it yet.
-fan in canopy and it will have a 30 gallon "dark" sump.

if you are going to have actinic supplementation you should try the iwasaki 175w 15K + 4xT5 HO that would be about the same wattage as 2x250w MH bulbs but with better color and more control

well what ever MH i do i am going to do double.
for the iwasaki 175w 15k will i even need the actinic?
im just afraid because i have heard that the 175 don't put out (as far as growth) and not much bulb selection.

175w iwasaki 15k destroys any other 175 watter and has the same par as a 250w bulb (if not more) - it's VERY bright and you will get great growth from it

personally I would use actinic supplementation with it because it's not like the 15k bulbs you are used to seeing, it's mostly very crisp white with just a hint of blue

also it works best with electronic ballasts

more info here:

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2005/12/review#h12

Thanks Uhuru, any pics of it running? and pc or t5 actinic's?
which ballast do you prefer, and being a 15 k how is the par compared to a lower kelvin.

I don't run a 175, but that bulb has quite a reputation. Its nickname is the "par buster". It's suppsed to be a MONSTER.

check out kinetic's tank he is running this bulb:

http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?...0&start=340

here is mine with pc actinic supplementation it is about 24" from the bottom of the tank (btw this tank is 16" tall same as a 40br):



if you can I would definitely do 4 x T5 HO bulbs trust me you will have the best of both worlds (fast growth and great color)

kinetic's tank looks way to white for me on page 14 and thats with actinic :/
i like the look of yours maybe a for me id like touch more blue but im not sure.
what pc atinic are you using? any pics of you lights how there set up and hanging, like a pic from far away?
i have 2 65 watt coralife pc actinic's i think i was going to use because i had them lying around but im not sure.
also when you say 4 X T5 ho are you meaning just actinics or what do you mean by that?


thanks for all your help Uhuru!

PC's suck I only use them because T5s wont fit on that tank. Kinetic is changing to a different fixture which will house 4 x T5s the one in the picture I think only has 2 T5s.

With 4 x T5 bulbs you have a lot more power to adjust the lighting to your preference. You could try all blue bulbs or all blue/actinic combos. Most of the high end fixtures have 4 x T5's to go with the MH, the really high end ones have 6!

since i am going to do 2 175 will 4 36" t5's be strong enough?
also is there any other bulb where i may not need actinics and still see good color and growth and par?

Uhuru, your stand looks scary. From the pics it looks like the 8 nuts+bolts are basically holding most of the weight? I know some work benches are good for thousands of pounds but that one you have, again from what i can see, is basically relying on the hardware to support the weight from the top of the bench.

Please tell me I am incorrect.

yeah it's a heavy duty stand rated for 4000 lbs, 1000 lb per shelf and my tank shouldn't even be half of that so I hope I'm okay??

I stole the idea from proraptor2:



http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?...2069&st=160

well you could always run DE bulbs like a phoenix 14k or SE bulbs like an aquaconnect 14k, those are pretty blue, to be honest you would be fine with dual 150w phoenix bulbs even for SPS and just leave room to add T5s in the future if you decide

I will be running an aquaconnect 14k + 4xT5 HO on my 70g it should look something like this: