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nick1912
For a 10g a 150 would be overkill. On the other hand a 70watt has poor bulb choice.
Pilg0re
QUOTE (nick1912 @ Apr 19 2010, 01:10 PM) *
For a 10g a 150 would be overkill. On the other hand a 70watt has poor bulb choice.


That's also another the dilemma I'm having with choosing in between the two. But I guess with the 70w, would that be sufficient in keeping clams and sps wherever I want in my tank?
Maddevil1
QUOTE (Pilg0re @ Apr 18 2010, 06:53 PM) *
So I'm in between 2 choices of lighting for my 10g. The fishneedit 70w or 150w in 20k. I'll eventually want clams and maybe a few sps. I have an ATO and cooling fans. I'd have to use the mounting legs and not be able to hang it from the ceiling. Which fixture would you go with?


Not sure if I can answer your question, but will tell you I am in the same situation. I have a BC14, with roughly 9 gallons of water. I have gathered that a 70MH might not be enough (to keep clams and SPS) and 150MH might be too much. I have decided to go with the 150W because there are better bulb selections for the 150 and I can raise it so it does not provide too much light and lessen the heat transfer (building my own stand so I dont have to hang it from the ceiling). And if I want to get a bigger tank later, I can use this light as well. Hope this helped!
Pilg0re
I'm going to go with the 150W and if it's too close to the water I'll figure a way to raise it up a bit. Thanks! cool.gif
nick1912
You chose your best bet. I would get an ushio 20k. Try to keep your par down with such a shallow tank. Do not get a phoenix or radium. Get what will work for your tank. Ushio 20k in my experince will work best. The color was dim purple/blue.
Rocket
Could this be a practical application of the XM 15k? It has the lowest par rating of just about any 150w bulb.
nick1912
I guess it can.

What does the xm look like?
reefer123
can someone explain to me what aspects of a bulb having different ballasts will affect? does it really make a signifigant difference if i buy a mediocre ballast or a high performance one. i wont buy a crappy one. thanks, this is for a 70 watt halide
Small Frag
From what I've read there's very little difference between ok ballast and the best.... Although the amount of power the unit actually uses does have a little difference though IceCap did utilize the power better but only by a little. Get electronic over tar or f-can they have lots more heat compared to the electronic.
redfishsc
What 10K bulb would you guys recommend for a 250DE fixture? I have a Phoenix right now, but am thinking in a few months of changing the bulb (Phoenix is kinda old). I have a TON of blue supplementation from my LED's.

The reason I am considering a 10K is because I have a lot of SPS in the 25g this is over that I want to grow, and the colors seem a bit washed out with the Phoenix. I want something that provides more vibrant colors.

And unfortunately Radium doesn't make a 250DE
redfishsc
dah.... anyone????
gregsreef28
I have a 250w pendant fixture I am going to be hanging over my 24x24x18tall cube. 2 ?'s. How high to hang it and what bulb to go with. At first I will have no actinic supplementation, so will a phoenix 14k be good? Or what else would you all suggest? Don't want it TOO blue
redfishsc
If you're looking for a balance, the Phoenix is a good bulb and a GOOD PAR producer, not to mention a reasonable cost. Only available as a DE bulb so I assume that's what you're getting.

One most electronic ballasts, the 250 doesn't appear as blue on my system. However the bulb can look quite blue when it's brand new. It will take a few months for the color to shift to less blue, but mine is definitely NOT yellow.

With your tank I'd start with it about 10" over the tank. I've had mine as close as 6" but some of my LPS really didn't like it, was way too bright. SPS were good though.

My tank is 1/2 the size of yours (24X12X20) though. Your tank is actually more appropriately sized for this bulb. It's kinda overkill on my tank.
gregsreef28
QUOTE (redfishsc @ May 11 2010, 10:40 PM) *
If you're looking for a balance, the Phoenix is a good bulb and a GOOD PAR producer, not to mention a reasonable cost. Only available as a DE bulb so I assume that's what you're getting.

One most electronic ballasts, the 250 doesn't appear as blue on my system. However the bulb can look quite blue when it's brand new. It will take a few months for the color to shift to less blue, but mine is definitely NOT yellow.

With your tank I'd start with it about 10" over the tank. I've had mine as close as 6" but some of my LPS really didn't like it, was way too bright. SPS were good though.

My tank is 1/2 the size of yours (24X12X20) though. Your tank is actually more appropriately sized for this bulb. It's kinda overkill on my tank.

Big help. Thanks a lot!!
tjbreezer
i have a 56 gallon tank that i want to turn into a salt water it is a tall tank at 24 inchs high what would be the best Metal Halide set up for it. one 250 watt bulb or would there be a better way to go.
Mr. Fosi
What do you want to keep in it?
tjbreezer
well soft corals on the bottom acons as well zeos and acros pritty much alittle of everything..
Mr. Fosi
250W might do that for you if you have the acros up fairly high in the tank.
Benaminh
I have another thread going that's deteriorated into alternative LED options instead of answering my MH questions so I'm posting here. 150w HQI IceCap Elec Ballast, Hellolights Retro HQI pendant, & 20K DE Radium bulb... how high up do I have to hang it from a shallow 10" 6 gallon tank? Is a foot adequate? Heat issues are more of a concern than lost PAR since it's already overlit. I am keeping high light Acropora only. Also, can I use any cheapo timer or it must be the IceCap Timer? Thank you for your help.
Mr. Fosi
QUOTE (Benaminh @ Jun 23 2010, 02:52 PM) *
150w HQI IceCap Elec Ballast, Hellolights Retro HQI pendant, & 20K DE Radium bulb... how high up do I have to hang it from a shallow 10" 6 gallon tank? Is a foot adequate?


What is the temperature of the room the tank is in? My feeling is you might need a little more height.

QUOTE (Benaminh @ Jun 23 2010, 02:52 PM) *
Also, can I use any cheapo timer or it must be the IceCap Timer?


I can't think of why you would need a special timer. huh.gif
Benaminh
QUOTE (Mr. Fosi @ Jun 23 2010, 11:56 AM) *
What is the temperature of the room the tank is in? My feeling is you might need a little more height.

I can't think of why you would need a special timer. huh.gif


With the lights off and all equipment running the tank water is a solid 75F most of the year. Heat gets hairy for two weeks in spring and two weeks of Indian summer in autumn when im forced to do a reverse photoperiod with multiple house fans running. I asked about the timer b/c I wasn't sure if MH ballasts needed special start/stop settings. Glad to hear they don't smile.gif
Mr. Fosi
I say go for 1' to start with and if you can't keep it under 84F, bump it up higher.

I used a cheapie timer for my 150W Sunpod for just short of 2 years and had no issues.
Benaminh
QUOTE (Mr. Fosi @ Jun 23 2010, 02:06 PM) *
I say go for 1' to start with and if you can't keep it under 84F, bump it up higher.

I used a cheapie timer for my 150W Sunpod for just short of 2 years and had no issues.


Sounds great thank you so much for the info.
Benaminh
BTW, what's the life expectancy of an icecap hqi e-ballast?
aquariumdude
I recently setup my 29 BioCube. I want to have all SPS and clams in the tank. I'm torn between a 150w or 250w. I want to run a 14K phoenix bulb. Seems like everybody is really happy with that bulb. Back about 9-10 years ago I used to run 400w 20K XM bulbs and really loved the color and response I got from SPS.

What watt HQI would you suggest for a 29 Biocube?
AndersNT
I'm about to start a 16 gal Nano cube.

Do you guys think I would do fine with a 70w HQI or would you go for the 150w?

I'm planning on some SPS, but mostly R. Florida.
cochranreef
i have a question, so i just bought a new tank and it came with a 150w 14k hamilton light fixture. im a complete noob when it comes to halides so is it okay if i leave it on all day with out turning it off? or should i turn it off every so often? advice please?
Amphiprion1
Yes, you'll want to turn it off daily. Invest in a timer to make things easier. I usually shoot for about 7-8 hours.
InsideJoke
Can someone recommend me a decent budget(200) 150w MH set up for a 18x18x18 cube?
Drew220
QUOTE (InsideJoke @ Oct 15 2010, 06:07 PM) *
Can someone recommend me a decent budget(200) 150w MH set up for a 18x18x18 cube?


http://www.fishneedit.com/150w-metal-halide-pendant-lig.html

envision
What is a good height to hang a 150 watt MH with a Phoenix bulb over it? I hung it 6-7" off the water with a fishneedit bulb and I dont want to provide too much PAR for my corals
victor52
QUOTE (RBuddha @ Mar 29 2007, 11:46 AM) *
I wont get into the whole technical side of how it works because frankly, its boring and if you really need to know that then there are other resources that can explain it a lot better than i can.

My fav. part.

thanks good read
SneekaPeek
im thinking about buying 2 250 aqua medic spacelight ex for my frag tank. any reviews on them or does anyone have any experience with the fixture, ballast, bulbs etc. Thanks I do need the help before I spend the mulla $$
lawnmowerblenny
how high should I hang my 150 w mh 10k fni light over my bta in a 55 gal standard ? 1/2 the tank is mh and half the tank is t5..... what is the average hanging height for 150w mh on this side tank? thanks guys
stg2roush
I have 2 96 watt PC lamp fixture over a 46 bowfront. Would 2 70 mh with 4 39 watt T5 be sufficient. Not looking to grow SPS or clams. Just shrooms and softies. Also would there be a heat increase over the PC's. I do not want to run a cooler.
t0eknee
Lumatek 250W 120/240V Dimmable / Multi-Wattage Ballast Kit

250 Watt 20000K Metal Halide Bulb - German Radium, Mogul Base

Would this set up be good for a oceanic 70g tech series?

t0eknee
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gjones
Hey, I have a 1000watt MH, 2'x2' reflector, and a 1000watt MH/HPS interchangeable magnetic ballast laying around. It can take 120V or 240V i believe, and I was wondering if that would be fine to just get a good coral bulb in that wattage? or do i need a different ballast? The light will be going over a 72 gallon bow front, so I'm not frying a nano, plus I'm on a budget so buying a whole new light is not ideal. I just have an empty 72, a light that needs re-purposing, and prety much everything I need but the "live" goods to get a new reef going.

I know heat may be an issue, and depth, but i can mount the light 4' above the tank if need be. Also not worried about the electric bill, ran the light before for long periods of time with not much increase.
cichlid
Hi, please help me.
I have a Blau Lumina nano fixture. I want to change the bulb. The official bulb fixture G12, but I wish an Ushio 150w 14000 K bulbs G12 with HID fixture. There is difference simple G12 between HID G12?

Thank you
Gabor from Hungary smile.gif
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