we havent even set up the rules yet. I hope this can be a joint effort between nano-reef and reeftuners. Like keep the diaries on reeftuners for easy info logging
and the chitchat here.
I want this to be about a concept, whether focusing on technical equipment, technique or otherwise.
Full Version: Whens the new contest?
QUOTE(supernip @ Jul 9 2007, 11:12 PM) 
we havent even set up the rules yet. I hope this can be a joint effort between nano-reef and reeftuners. Like keep the diaries on reeftuners for easy info logging
and the chitchat here.
I want this to be about a concept, whether focusing on technical equipment, technique or otherwise.
and the chitchat here.
I want this to be about a concept, whether focusing on technical equipment, technique or otherwise.
what concept are we talking about here? I centered my tank around diy, cheap, and easy stuff, to prove that everyone can abandon the all in one.
How cool would this be:
http://www.modernvaseandgift.com/proddetail.php?prod=GCB037
It's an 8 inch cube vase. If you could drill the bottom for circulation and mount it on a cube stand to hold a mini-sump/refuge.
http://www.modernvaseandgift.com/proddetail.php?prod=GCB037
It's an 8 inch cube vase. If you could drill the bottom for circulation and mount it on a cube stand to hold a mini-sump/refuge.
i think something like a 20 gallon or less contest where one feature must be DIYed. i.e. lighting, filtration, water movement, etc.
QUOTE(duderubble @ Jul 12 2007, 03:58 PM)
How cool would this be:
http://www.modernvaseandgift.com/proddetail.php?prod=GCB037
It's an 8 inch cube vase. If you could drill the bottom for circulation and mount it on a cube stand to hold a mini-sump/refuge.
http://www.modernvaseandgift.com/proddetail.php?prod=GCB037
It's an 8 inch cube vase. If you could drill the bottom for circulation and mount it on a cube stand to hold a mini-sump/refuge.
That's cool. I might get one. Or better yet, get two, make a stand, and drill one and use the other as a sump. lol
any updates?
I'm intrested too. Have a 2.5 ready to go.
If we're doing the less than 20 gal. option, I've got a 1/2 10 gal. that I want to rig up anyway. Never done a tank for a contest before, I think it'd be fun.
Bill
Bill
i think the cheaper the cost, the more people will participate, especially those of us who are setting up 2nd tanks for the contest. I could go for a 5g AGA only contest
example 2 categories:
1. basic- max PC lighting, no external plumbing of any kind
2. extreme- 5g sump allowed, no limits
just an example
kind of like nascar, it would keep the equipment pretty even, leaving aquascaping and planning to be the winning factors
example 2 categories:
1. basic- max PC lighting, no external plumbing of any kind
2. extreme- 5g sump allowed, no limits
just an example
kind of like nascar, it would keep the equipment pretty even, leaving aquascaping and planning to be the winning factors
I'm game. I've been saving milk jugs(for sump) and mylar for reflectors. I'm still working on a archimedes screw pump.
QUOTE(hbjeff @ Oct 28 2007, 04:45 PM)
i think the cheaper the cost, the more people will participate, especially those of us who are setting up 2nd tanks for the contest. I could go for a 5g AGA only contest
example 2 categories:
1. basic- max PC lighting, no external plumbing of any kind
2. extreme- 5g sump allowed, no limits
just an example
kind of like nascar, it would keep the equipment pretty even, leaving aquascaping and planning to be the winning factors
example 2 categories:
1. basic- max PC lighting, no external plumbing of any kind
2. extreme- 5g sump allowed, no limits
just an example
kind of like nascar, it would keep the equipment pretty even, leaving aquascaping and planning to be the winning factors
5G AGA would be a good choice
QUOTE
i think something like a 20 gallon or less contest where one feature must be DIYed. i.e. lighting, filtration, water movement, etc.
I like this idea as a free for all with no limits to lighting or flow. I assume that I'm not the only one here with enough crap in boxes to put another tank together. It would keep the cost down being able to use the stuff I already have without adding to it after a contest ends. I dont even need prizes ( I never win anyway's) , if enough people participate I would like to do it for fun. I wouldnt even care if already existing tanks were able to enter depending on how far along the setup is. I've seen some new tanks posted on the site that are pretty new and wouldnt bother me a bit if they were allowed in a new contest. It may also increase participation.
I would so definitely be in it if the above ideas went into effect.
Ahh, it makes me anxious. We need a contest soon! 2008?
no.
chris might hate me for this but...
i'm actually a little surprised no sponsors have considered (really bothered chris for) name-sponsoring a new contest in their sub-forums here. e.g. section off a spot where their ads dominate, get their name on the contest, etc. i mean advertising's all about name-mention. and the mention goes on and on for a looooong time. (see previous contests still mentioned years after the fact)
yes, it means more work for the mods but chris could charge for it (and/or watch over it himself
). or maybe one of the sponsor's employees charged with monitoring could do it. *cough*job-justification*cough*
basically, it's drawing up the rules (mostly borrowed from previous contests), allotting a new sub-forum, desginating calendar/dates for criteria (startup pics, 1-month pics, 3-month pics, 6-month pics, etc.), and then leaving the judging and prizes to the sponsor(s).
...i hope chris doesn't ban me for this.
i'm actually a little surprised no sponsors have considered (really bothered chris for) name-sponsoring a new contest in their sub-forums here. e.g. section off a spot where their ads dominate, get their name on the contest, etc. i mean advertising's all about name-mention. and the mention goes on and on for a looooong time. (see previous contests still mentioned years after the fact)
yes, it means more work for the mods but chris could charge for it (and/or watch over it himself
). or maybe one of the sponsor's employees charged with monitoring could do it. *cough*job-justification*cough* basically, it's drawing up the rules (mostly borrowed from previous contests), allotting a new sub-forum, desginating calendar/dates for criteria (startup pics, 1-month pics, 3-month pics, 6-month pics, etc.), and then leaving the judging and prizes to the sponsor(s).
...i hope chris doesn't ban me for this.
QUOTE(Christopher Marks @ Jun 19 2007, 12:36 PM)
I know some of you would like to continue on the with the contests, but here are some reasons why I felt they were not working:
A bunch of people go through the extra effort, cost, etc to setup a second tank just for the contest. Then more than 80% fail for various reasons. Some people run out of money, some don't have the time, some crash, etc. It just seems like such a waste. I would rather have people focus on their first tanks.
There's also a huge disadvantages created. Members without established tanks that participate don't have mature corals, rock, etc. to add to their new system. Money also plays a huge factor. But even if there was a cost limit to the contest, it cannot be enforced. Prices on corals and equipment vary vastly from city to city, and corals and fish could simply be traded for or gotten for free from friends.
A bunch of people go through the extra effort, cost, etc to setup a second tank just for the contest. Then more than 80% fail for various reasons. Some people run out of money, some don't have the time, some crash, etc. It just seems like such a waste. I would rather have people focus on their first tanks.
There's also a huge disadvantages created. Members without established tanks that participate don't have mature corals, rock, etc. to add to their new system. Money also plays a huge factor. But even if there was a cost limit to the contest, it cannot be enforced. Prices on corals and equipment vary vastly from city to city, and corals and fish could simply be traded for or gotten for free from friends.
it's not the work for us that is the problem, but participation. each time there's a huge demand for a contest, but a year later when it's been organized and started, finished and ready to judge, there's only a handful of participants that stick it out to the end. after a full year, many of the really outspoken voices that requested a contest have moved on to a new hobby like pokemon cards or WoW.
QUOTE(MrAnderson @ Nov 12 2007, 08:27 AM)
after a full year, many of the really outspoken voices that requested a contest have moved on to a new hobby like pokemon cards or WoW.
Sounds like Chris is thinking about the livestock too
QUOTE(MrAnderson @ Nov 12 2007, 10:27 AM)
it's not the work for us that is the problem, but participation. each time there's a huge demand for a contest, but a year later when it's been organized and started, finished and ready to judge, there's only a handful of participants that stick it out to the end. after a full year, many of the really outspoken voices that requested a contest have moved on to a new hobby like pokemon cards or WoW.
When I went to school only 5% graduated ... Does that mean that people shouldn't go to school ? I think this is part of contests ... only the elite can win
QUOTE(MrAnderson @ Nov 12 2007, 07:27 AM)
it's not the work for us that is the problem, but participation. each time there's a huge demand for a contest, but a year later when it's been organized and started, finished and ready to judge, there's only a handful of participants that stick it out to the end. after a full year, many of the really outspoken voices that requested a contest have moved on to a new hobby like pokemon cards or WoW.
srsly.
Patron Pico Reef Contest, adin.
pffft- fine then cm, if u don't like the contests anymore, we'll just take it over to that other new get away with anything and everything reefing site
(i'm jk please don't hurt me!!!)
or pogs... i'd personally get distracted by pogs
(i'm jk please don't hurt me!!!
) QUOTE(MrAnderson @ Nov 12 2007, 07:27 AM)
it's not the work for us that is the problem, but participation. each time there's a huge demand for a contest, but a year later when it's been organized and started, finished and ready to judge, there's only a handful of participants that stick it out to the end. after a full year, many of the really outspoken voices that requested a contest have moved on to a new hobby like pokemon cards or WoW.
or pogs... i'd personally get distracted by pogs
QUOTE(fraggle rockette @ Nov 12 2007, 12:50 PM)
pffft- fine then cm, if u don't like the contests anymore, we'll just take it over to that other new get away with anything and everything reefing site
you would leave me over THIS?!
but there's so much more...!
Pogs are quite distracting indeed! I just got a shiny new slammer
QUOTE(epicfish @ Nov 12 2007, 09:07 AM)
Patron Pico Reef Contest, adin.
i got my bottle!QUOTE(fraggle rockette @ Nov 12 2007, 09:50 AM)
pffft- fine then cm, if u don't like the contests anymore, we'll just take it over to that other new get away with anything and everything reefing site
I always thought it would be neat to have a nano-reef diy invention contest. Some people on this site have come up with some pretty cool little diy inventions such as the soup dish refugium/frag dish, mag racks, nimble, etc.
A contest like this would encourage people to come up with some new ideas for nano-reef products. DIY in many cases has played a big role in moving the nano hobby forward.
There could be three major categories: 1) modify an existing nano product and make it better, 2) create a nano product from non-reef related products, and 3) create a nano product from scratch.
A contest like this would encourage people to come up with some new ideas for nano-reef products. DIY in many cases has played a big role in moving the nano hobby forward.
There could be three major categories: 1) modify an existing nano product and make it better, 2) create a nano product from non-reef related products, and 3) create a nano product from scratch.
QUOTE(lgreen @ Nov 13 2007, 12:38 AM)
I always thought it would be neat to have a nano-reef diy invention contest. Some people on this site have come up with some pretty cool little diy inventions such as the soup dish refugium/frag dish, mag racks, nimble, etc.
A contest like this would encourage people to come up with some new ideas for nano-reef products. DIY in many cases has played a big role in moving the nano hobby forward.
There could be three major categories: 1) modify an existing nano product and make it better, 2) create a nano product from non-reef related products, and 3) create a nano product from scratch.
A contest like this would encourage people to come up with some new ideas for nano-reef products. DIY in many cases has played a big role in moving the nano hobby forward.
There could be three major categories: 1) modify an existing nano product and make it better, 2) create a nano product from non-reef related products, and 3) create a nano product from scratch.
I don't say this often so i'll bold it for emphasis.
lgreen i like your thinking
QUOTE(Maeda @ Nov 14 2007, 12:59 AM)
I don't say this often so i'll bold it for emphasis.
lgreen i like your thinking
lgreen i like your thinking
i also like our thinking:D
QUOTE(Christopher Marks @ Nov 12 2007, 06:33 PM)
Pogs are quite distracting indeed! I just got a shiny new slammer
wow... that brought back memories...
Oh well, back to the trading forum...
Anyone got Barfin Marvin? I'll trade you for an Adam Bomb.
Hi all! Just an FYI, I know that these contests haven't had a lot of people finishing, or continuing with the contest, but the fact that some people do is encouraging to me! I have been onto tropical fish my whole life (I'm 33yo.) My dad was into the hobby before I was born.
I have been trolling these forums for a couple months now, and researching reef keeping for about 8 months.
I have always wanted to start a reef tank, but it has always seemed like a really overwhelming thing to start. The 10 gallon contest forum convinced me that I can do this - using familiar aquarium equipment! So a couple months ago, I started collecting parts. Yesterday I set up my first reef tank - just a 2.5g while I figure out what the rest of my 20g setup will consist of. OK maybe it will fail, but maybe it will succeed. Either way I'm giving the reef keeping hobby a try due to the confidence I have built up by reading the posts here. Worst case scenario, I have a slightly noisy acintic blue lamp on my night stand, and I start asking questions in the forums!
So I say who cares if people cheat, don't finish, have a 400g established tank to seed from, unlimited funds, or otherwise throw the balance of the contest off. Don't call it a contest, call it a challenge. If nothing else, more people will get interested, ask questions, and help this innovative hobby flourish. Honestly, I think all the "competitors" look at each other like fellow challengers here anyways. What a great way to learn about this fascinating hobby!
Frankly, I'm disapointed that there isn't another contest. Either way, I'll get photos of my little rig posted soon. See you in the forums!
Johnny
I have been trolling these forums for a couple months now, and researching reef keeping for about 8 months.
I have always wanted to start a reef tank, but it has always seemed like a really overwhelming thing to start. The 10 gallon contest forum convinced me that I can do this - using familiar aquarium equipment! So a couple months ago, I started collecting parts. Yesterday I set up my first reef tank - just a 2.5g while I figure out what the rest of my 20g setup will consist of. OK maybe it will fail, but maybe it will succeed. Either way I'm giving the reef keeping hobby a try due to the confidence I have built up by reading the posts here. Worst case scenario, I have a slightly noisy acintic blue lamp on my night stand, and I start asking questions in the forums!
So I say who cares if people cheat, don't finish, have a 400g established tank to seed from, unlimited funds, or otherwise throw the balance of the contest off. Don't call it a contest, call it a challenge. If nothing else, more people will get interested, ask questions, and help this innovative hobby flourish. Honestly, I think all the "competitors" look at each other like fellow challengers here anyways. What a great way to learn about this fascinating hobby!
Frankly, I'm disapointed that there isn't another contest. Either way, I'll get photos of my little rig posted soon. See you in the forums!
Johnny
^^^ Well said, these contests are breeding grounds for new ideas, questions, and answers. New and old hobbyists can both benefit from the stuff that goes on in the contests.
I'm surprised not many sponsors have taken a step up to help set something up, they'd get a ton of publicity.
I'm surprised not many sponsors have taken a step up to help set something up, they'd get a ton of publicity.
I'm up for a new contest too. I think we should do another small tank. Maybe a Tru-Vu Tank. Again Chris, if you dont mind, and we get enough people who would want to do one, I could put off a section of my site forums, for the contest. But I'm not sure how to work with sponsors, so that might just be a complete fan based, buy all your stuff and no prize (or we could all donate something) type of thing.
I would love another contest, and I may have the money to enter if it happens!
The products of these contest are far greater in value that I think most conceive! I see alot of people who put theirs at work and in a more public setting than just their home, Which is GREAT! It exposes the world of nano-reefs and raises awareness.
Another contest... I demand it.
The products of these contest are far greater in value that I think most conceive! I see alot of people who put theirs at work and in a more public setting than just their home, Which is GREAT! It exposes the world of nano-reefs and raises awareness.
Another contest... I demand it.
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